New Labour Leader

[keelansgrandad 6,679]

Cornwall Council is set to change in May. It is reducing its councillors from 123 to 86. It is traditionally an independent or NOC council. So I don't envisage any indication of gains or losses between the two main national parties.

[wcorkcanary 4,334]

21 hours ago, horsefly said:

I do realise that you wouldn't know what a degree is, let alone an MA or PhD. Perhaps you should have asked your best mate David Bowie when he was alive. 

Why on earth would David Bowie mix with an odious toady  like Jools? Were they having a fling? 

[horsefly 4,298]

16 hours ago, wcorkcanary said:

Why on earth would David Bowie mix with an odious toady  like Jools? Were they having a fling? 

Only in Jool's sad semi-priapic fantasy world (unless it's another of his post-mortem consumations).

[BigFish 1,986]

18 hours ago, Barbe bleu said:

 The timing here could be interesting.

 Starmer is slowly trying to extract the Electoral poison from the party and the purge could well be complete by then, but will he also have enough time to inject a bit of hope and vision into proceedings?

Conversely, is May sufficiently  far in the future that this year's troubles in the blue corner will be yesterdays news?

Very true @Barbe bleu, Starmer has plenty of time to build his name recognition, put the ghost of Corbyn to bed and build a narrative. As for May I suspect the electorate will be looking to give the Tories a good kicking from across the spectrum: Remainers, Leavers, Left, Right & Centre.

[Rock The Boat 1,330]

20 hours ago, Barbe bleu said:

 The timing here could be interesting.

 Starmer is slowly trying to extract the Electoral poison from the party and the purge could well be complete by then, but will he also have enough time to inject a bit of hope and vision into proceedings?

Conversely, is May sufficiently  far in the future that this year's troubles in the blue corner will be yesterdays news?

By May vaccinations will be well underway in the general population, covid will be greatly reduced and it will be springtime when folks spirits are lifted. Tory ratings will be on the rise and the economy improving

[keelansgrandad 6,679]

3 hours ago, Rock The Boat said:

By May vaccinations will be well underway in the general population, covid will be greatly reduced and it will be springtime when folks spirits are lifted. Tory ratings will be on the rise and the economy improving

You obviously didn't listen to what the three experts said today did you.

They weren't there for the usual Johnson "we an do this together" morale speech. It was to explain what to expect after licensing.

Does anyone really expect the target of 1M a day vaccinations? It will take over two months to complete.

[Barbe bleu 823]

1 hour ago, keelansgrandad said:

You obviously didn't listen to what the three experts said today did you.

They weren't there for the usual Johnson "we an do this together" morale speech. It was to explain what to expect after licensing.

Does anyone really expect the target of 1M a day vaccinations? It will take over two months to complete.

If, as seems likely,  the first vaccine is licenced by Christmas I would be massively disappointed if covid was not becoming an increasingly niche concern by May!

[keelansgrandad 6,679]

1 hour ago, Barbe bleu said:

If, as seems likely,  the first vaccine is licenced by Christmas I would be massively disappointed if covid was not becoming an increasingly niche concern by May!

The phrase "limited numbers" does not exude confidence to me.

[sonyc 5,511]

39 minutes ago, keelansgrandad said:

The phrase "limited numbers" does not exude confidence to me.

As soon as I heard and then saw Hancock chirp on about rolling out vaccines "straight into the arm" it made me feel immediately unconvinced I have to admit. Everytime he's made these kinds of declarations it seems as if it's gone wrong.

This time, it is vital they get roll out just right. I'm guessing they've known for weeks and possibly months about mobilising for the vaccine so I just hope all these stories come to fruition and folk don't feel let down.

I can't be bothered if Tory ratings rise or not. I just want to see good management for now on the pandemic. I can't see yet another lockdown happening anyway but if numbers continue to be high in January what might happen then?

Is the government strategy going to be mostly about 'putting their eggs in the vaccine basket'?

I've read about huge regional tiers coming into place rather than city areas. That may be one change. As for Labour, they may gain more support if there are further false steps and mismanagement.

Edited November 11, 2020 by sonyc

[PurpleCanary 5,557]

1 minute ago, sonyc said:

As soon as I heard and then saw Hancock chirp on about rolling out vaccines "straight into the arm" it made me feel immediately unconvinced I have to admit. Everytime he's made these kinds of declarations it seems as if it's gone wrong.

This time, it is vital they get roll out just right. I'm guessing they've known for weeks and possibly months about mobilising for the vaccine so I just hope all these stories come to fruition and folk don't feel let down.

I can't be bothered if Tory ratings rise or not. I just want to see good management for now on the pandemic. I can't see yet another lockdown happening anyway but if numbers continue to be high in January what might happen then?

Is the government strategy going to be mostly about 'putting their eggs in the vaccine basket'?

I've read about huge regional tiers coming into place rather than city areas. That may be one change.

More a question of putting their egos in the vaccine basket...🤓

[sonyc 5,511]

4 minutes ago, PurpleCanary said:

More a question of putting their egos in the vaccine basket...🤓

Haha...🤭....the politics, trying to take it all in, is fascinating....

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/nov/10/populist-divisions-covid-nigel-farage-second-wave?

[Rock The Boat 1,330]

6 hours ago, keelansgrandad said:

The phrase "limited numbers" does not exude confidence to me.

Pfizer is just the first vaccine, there will be other versions along shortly. Relax.

[Surfer 1,547]

Very true. 

Apparently the Russian vaccine is even more effective... at least according to Putin’s PR team. 

[keelansgrandad 6,679]

10 hours ago, Rock The Boat said:

Pfizer is just the first vaccine, there will be other versions along shortly. Relax.

Will we have a choice which one we have?

[Rock The Boat 1,330]

9 hours ago, keelansgrandad said:

Will we have a choice which one we have?

Good question. I'll throw that open to our resident expert Mr. Well Be Back. Apparently the Russian vaccine is not going to be branded Covichok so no worries there.

[keelansgrandad 6,679]

1 hour ago, Rock The Boat said:

Good question. I'll throw that open to our resident expert Mr. Well Be Back. Apparently the Russian vaccine is not going to be branded Covichok so no worries there.

Surely you wouldn't have the nerve to have a Russian vaccine. Still, what else would you expect from a snake.

[Rock The Boat 1,330]

On 12/11/2020 at 22:38, keelansgrandad said:

Surely you wouldn't have the nerve to have a Russian vaccine. Still, what else would you expect from a snake.

An apple?

[Jools 584]

Looks like Steptoe is to be readmitted to the Labour Party...

So, Sir Wan Kier is leading a Party he has no control over 🤡

Edited November 17, 2020 by Jools

[Jools 584]

 

🤣

[horsefly 4,298]

Who's the racist liar in this picture?

 

[keelansgrandad 6,679]

We know the Tory press will not let it go but Corbyn is not the leader.

The whole situation was blown out of proportion in the first place. Corbyn's stupidity was to say he was going to do something and then didn't. He let his own beliefs cloud the real truth that the majority of working class British citizens would back Israel over Palestine. But the middle classes with their consciences keep it on the agenda.

[Jools 584]

"Never again will Labour let you down. Never again will we fail to tackle anti-Semitism. And never again will we lose your trust." ~ Keir Starmer

Useless and shameless, Grandad.

 

The LibLabCon are all useless...

Which is why the Reform Party will get my full support 👍

 

[Herman 9,756]

Have you paid your subs yet? 

[keelansgrandad 6,679]

2 minutes ago, Jools said:

"Never again will Labour let you down. Never again will we fail to tackle anti-Semitism. And never again will we lose your trust." ~ Keir Starmer

Useless and shameless, Grandad.

 

The LibLabCon are all useless...

Which is why the Reform Party will get my full support 👍

 

How many parties is that now. Tory to UKIP to Brexit to Reform. Your direct debits must be colossal. 

Meanwhile, Farage keeps trousering the money😂🐴🐵

[Rock The Boat 1,330]

1 hour ago, Jools said:

"Never again will Labour let you down. Never again will we fail to tackle anti-Semitism. And never again will we lose your trust." ~ Keir Starmer

Useless and shameless, Grandad.

 

The LibLabCon are all useless...

Which is why the Reform Party will get my full support 👍

 

So Starmer standing up to systemic anti-Semitism in the Labour Party lasted about, what.... 30 minutes?

[Jools 584]

6 minutes ago, Rock The Boat said:

So Starmer standing up to systemic anti-Semitism in the Labour Party lasted about, what.... 30 minutes?

And it's because Sir Wan Kier, like Steptoe and the rest of the Labour Party, don't want to lose their bloc vote, RtB... 🕌

In the meantime they've thrown away their latest poll lead 👍 

[horsefly 4,298]

6 hours ago, Herman said:

Have you paid your subs yet? 

Nigel's getting anxious, he's desperate to add an orangery and underground swimming pool to his new home.

[Herman 9,756]

They are so desperate to talk about anything other than the **** falling out of their populist scam. What chumps. 🤣

[Rock The Boat 1,330]

2 hours ago, horsefly said:

Nigel's getting anxious, he's desperate to add an orangery and underground swimming pool to his new home.

Still nothing to say about systemic racism of the Labour Party? The history of socialism is the history of anti-Semitism from Hitler to Corbyn. Starmer is an apologist for the haters. 

[Herman 9,756]

No whip for corbyn.