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Hurray the red Tories are in the lead, trumpets drums, all the MSM all at once, hur bloddy ray.

Those who dare use the Labour label for their Tory supporting ideas, such as spreading fear,anxiety causing stress and as the last most important result, lower the immune system. This out  touch and out of members opposition will rather agree to a grand coalition than to carry on with raising their hands in support of sanctioning torture.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-8701699/PETER-HITCHENS-Protest-against-new-State-Fear-banned.html

Then we have the Tories, together with the new party of followers to the trans Atlantic madness creating laws that have no other place than Goebbels realm. I would not be surprised if new Tory Starmer wpartheid judges and executionersould become the new home secretary in a grand coalition, then he can carry on with his criminal Apartheid judges and executioners.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-54274605

it is a masterpiece of doublethink:
“The highly unusual decision to create a law that sanctions crime” “Which agencies will be able to authorise secret crimes?
MI5 and other intelligence bodies
Police forces and the National Crime agency
Immigration and Border Officers
HM Revenue and Customs, Serious Fraud Office
UK military forces
Ministry of Justice (investigations in prisons)
Competition and Markets Authority, Environment Agency, Financial Conduct Authority, Food Standards Agency, Gambling Commission and Medicines and Healthcare Regulation Authority

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37 minutes ago, nevermind, neoliberalism has had it said:

Hurray the red Tories are in the lead, trumpets drums, all the MSM all at once, hur bloddy ray.

Those who dare use the Labour label for their Tory supporting ideas, such as spreading fear,anxiety causing stress and as the last most important result, lower the immune system. This out  touch and out of members opposition will rather agree to a grand coalition than to carry on with raising their hands in support of sanctioning torture.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-8701699/PETER-HITCHENS-Protest-against-new-State-Fear-banned.html

Then we have the Tories, together with the new party of followers to the trans Atlantic madness creating laws that have no other place than Goebbels realm. I would not be surprised if new Tory Starmer wpartheid judges and executionersould become the new home secretary in a grand coalition, then he can carry on with his criminal Apartheid judges and executioners.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-54274605

it is a masterpiece of doublethink:
“The highly unusual decision to create a law that sanctions crime” “Which agencies will be able to authorise secret crimes?
MI5 and other intelligence bodies
Police forces and the National Crime agency
Immigration and Border Officers
HM Revenue and Customs, Serious Fraud Office
UK military forces
Ministry of Justice (investigations in prisons)
Competition and Markets Authority, Environment Agency, Financial Conduct Authority, Food Standards Agency, Gambling Commission and Medicines and Healthcare Regulation Authority

So what Party do you support NNL? You are obviously not Labour.

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21 hours ago, Yellow Fever said:

So what Party do you support NNL? You are obviously not Labour.

I don't know, more the flack Starmer gets from the Left the more electable he looks to the country.

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On 26/09/2020 at 18:45, Herman said:

Jesus Christ. It's Swindo's thicker brother.

They are the same government that severely underfunded health and social services for a decade meaning we were so far away from even thinking about herd immunity. It would have killed thousands upon thousands of people and overwhelmed the NHS. If "real conservatives" thought that would have been a better idea then they are people seriously ill in the head.

They are also the Brexit/Vote Leave government who are undertaking the most economically damaging policy that the UK has known. You have endlessly cheered for this and are now whinging about the country being damaged. Sod off you hypocrite.

Ah yes an NHS that was so overwhelmed with virus sufferers that the Nightingale hospitals had zero admissions even when the virus peaked in April -- An NHS so overwhelmed that staff up and down the country had time to make up dance routines and post selfies.

As to your conservatives severely underfunding the NHS and not being equipped to deal with the virus nonsense, do you seriously believe the NHS was in a better state to deal with a pandemic had this virus occurred ten years ago? If you do you've obviously forgotten how Blair wasted 10 billion on a vainglorious computer project -- You've forgotten how Brown blew billions more on wasteful private finance initiative schemes -- You've forgotten how managers doubled under Labour with their pay rising far faster than that of nurses, while services were distorted to meet Whitehall’s benchmarks -- You've forgotten the Labour enabled fat cat bosses and their sordid care failures and cover-ups in two Mid Staffordshire hospitals, the Morecambe Bay maternity unit and the Winterbourne View care home -- The victims, as usual, were the most vulnerable, such as newborn babies, elderly patients and people with learning difficulties.

Ten years ago the conservatives had to address all the above with empty coffers, yet they went about hiring 8,000 extra hospital nurses, got rid of a large number of bad managers and put 22 poorly performing hospitals into special measures --- The coalition (con/lib) made more progress in five years than Labour did in 13.

Total health spending in England has risen to nigh on £134 billion -- I'm sur you'll agree, Hermange, that's way too costly for a failing behemoth like the NHS...

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8 hours ago, Yellow Fever said:

So what Party do you support NNL? You are obviously not Labour.

I'm pretty certain NNL has no affiliation to any political party...

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14 hours ago, Herman said:

That explains why they were trying to distract attention with stories of Moore and Dacre. Poor. 

😀  Please don't tell us you still believe the BBC isn't Lefty biased..

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The BBC isn’t lefty or rightly biased. It’s just lost it’s mind giving shills like Farage way too much coverage, and repeating Government PR bulletins without question rather than digging deep to uncover the actual truth. 

Same sins as US journalists, prizing access to powerful people rather than holding them to account. The RWNJ’s and LWNJ’s have both perfected the grievance position as they know the interviewer will give up rather than dig in. 

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22 hours ago, Yellow Fever said:

So what Party do you support NNL? You are obviously not Labour.

I have once supported the Socialist youth movement age 14, but when the Greens arrived and we sat crammed in a cellar in Hamburg listening to Petra Kelly, I thought that coloured screwdrivers and slightly better wages don't do nothing about environmental degradation, chemical pollution, or global warming, For 33 years I worked within the Green Party, put my money were my mouth was, until they decided to play up to the media, who did not like them having no leader, and I joined Labour whence it dragged itself away from Tony's malingering influences illegal wars and torturing abroad. But since the arrival of keir Startmer, a lawyer who made cases disappear and who put whistle blowers in jail under trumped up charges from Sweden, I am beyond politics, no more politiocal parties for me. I also support XR.

How does this sit with you for honesty?

 

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14 hours ago, Jools said:

Ah yes an NHS that was so overwhelmed with virus sufferers that the Nightingale hospitals had zero admissions even when the virus peaked in April -- An NHS so overwhelmed that staff up and down the country had time to make up dance routines and post selfies.

As to your conservatives severely underfunding the NHS and not being equipped to deal with the virus nonsense, do you seriously believe the NHS was in a better state to deal with a pandemic had this virus occurred ten years ago? If you do you've obviously forgotten how Blair wasted 10 billion on a vainglorious computer project -- You've forgotten how Brown blew billions more on wasteful private finance initiative schemes -- You've forgotten how managers doubled under Labour with their pay rising far faster than that of nurses, while services were distorted to meet Whitehall’s benchmarks -- You've forgotten the Labour enabled fat cat bosses and their sordid care failures and cover-ups in two Mid Staffordshire hospitals, the Morecambe Bay maternity unit and the Winterbourne View care home -- The victims, as usual, were the most vulnerable, such as newborn babies, elderly patients and people with learning difficulties.

Ten years ago the conservatives had to address all the above with empty coffers, yet they went about hiring 8,000 extra hospital nurses, got rid of a large number of bad managers and put 22 poorly performing hospitals into special measures --- The coalition (con/lib) made more progress in five years than Labour did in 13.

Total health spending in England has risen to nigh on £134 billion -- I'm sur you'll agree, Hermange, that's way too costly for a failing behemoth like the NHS...

Back on the Paul Moy its Labours fault for everything. And please do not quote that fawning liar Blair. He made Cameron sound like Kier Hardie.

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Captain Hindsight has took an ‘unconscious bias training’ test...

He had to take a test to prove he isn't racist? 🤪

Blimey.

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6 minutes ago, Jools said:

Captain Hindsight has took an ‘unconscious bias training’ test...

He had to take a test to prove he isn't racist? 🤪

Blimey.

Everyone is racist on some level. 

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On 17/07/2020 at 13:19, Bill said:

I think it is more a case of 'setting the hounds running'

Johnson taking money from dodgy Russians is known - where did Aarons get his £8m to fund the Leave campaign come from. who funded Cambridge Analytica....

There's a whole host of unanswered questions that might not be explained in the report - but will offer short cuts to the electoral fraud which has been pretty much accepted as having happened

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The Information Commission has finally concluded its 3 year investigation into Cambridge Analytica. Its comprehensive report, shared with the Digital, Culture and Media and Sport Select Committee, will not make happy reading for the Carole Cadwalladrs of this world. The investigation reviewed 42 laptops and computers, 700 TB of data, 31 servers, over 300,000 documents, and a wide range of material in paper form and from cloud storage devices. Guido brings you some select findings…

On whether SCL Elections Ltd and Cambridge Analytica were involved in the referendum campaign:

“From my review of the materials recovered by the investigation I have found no further evidence to change my earlier view that SCL/CA were not involved in the EU referendum campaign in the UK”

On data practices of organisations on both sides of the EU referendum campaign:

“I identified no significant breaches of the privacy and electronic marketing regulations and data protection legislation that met the threshold for formal regulatory action.”

On Evidence of Russian involvement:

“We did not find any additional evidence of Russian involvement in our analysis of material contained in the SCL / CA servers we obtained.” 

The report does highlight dodgy data practices from Cambridge Analytica, with the Commissioner writing “I have also confirmed my previous understanding about the poor data practices at the company, which, had they sought to continue trading, would likely have attracted further regulatory action against them by my office.” It’s clear Cambridge Analytica were shysters.Yet not ones who changed the outcome of the Brexit referendum. Guido can’t wait for Carole’ Codswallop's climbdown…  😀

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On 01/10/2020 at 00:03, keelansgrandad said:

Not as much as Jools and his cohorts.

Careful with the libel, Grandad.

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Andy Burnham, another Labour looney flip flopper -- The mayor of Manchester has said "most leaders in greater Manchester think it would be a preferable option to enter a national circuit break lockdown rather than taking a regional approach" but for weeks he has been saying "it should be left to local mayors and leaders" he's done a full 180° Starmer 🤪

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Love the mascara 🙃

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Maybe you should focus on the idiots running the country. They've done so many u-turns they don't know if they're in London or Mogadishu 

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14 minutes ago, NFN FC said:

Maybe you should focus on the idiots running the country. They've done so many u-turns they don't know if they're in London or Mogadishu 

Well, NFN FC, if only there was competent opposition to hold the conservatives accountable.. 

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3 minutes ago, Jools said:

Well, NFN FC, if only there was competent opposition to hold the conservatives accountable.. 

Begs the question, if incompetence of the opposition goes up against the even more incompetence of the government does it balance out? 🤔

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They are all unfit for purpose

How anyone can think of voting for any of the mainstream political parties is beyond me.

They live in a parallel universe

Not just the politicians  either, everything establishment is an utter mess and not just in our country, this is the state of the west today.

Wouldn't vote for Doris, certainly wouldn't vote for starmer 

 

 

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A lazy and/or dishonest response. When you have as much evidence as we currently do to say all politicians are unfit you're clearly misleading yourself or others. 

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Oh! Jeremy Corbinned!
 
 
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*A spokesperson for the Labour Party said:* “In light of his comments made today and his failure to retract them subsequently, the Labour Party has suspended Jeremy Corbyn pending investigation. He has also had the whip removed from the Parliamentary Labour Party.”
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Good for Labour and Starmer. That poll lead is about to grow even more. Now the Tories and Boris, where is your anti-Muslim discrimination report?! Or is racism / religionism  only a Labour Party issue? 

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