Alex Moss 2,167 Posted January 11, 2020 From the Pinkāuns main page, Dudaās father has all but confirmed it,Ā fingers crossed - sounds like Daniel Farkeās āpulling powerā (I donāt mean with the ladies) made it straightforward choice for Duda, and we have beaten offĀ some serious competition by all accounts. If Palace in particular were one of the teams, thatās a real coup given Duda would have had the chance to join a side who are unlikely to go down this season, and earn himself a contract in the Premier League next season - I guess he must also feel we have a good chance to get out of this mess, assuming heās vying for a move to the Premier League permanently. Just goes to show how highly Daniel is regarded back in Germany if this is the case - sign Duda and follow it up with Robin Koch and those 2 signings aloneĀ would be a very good window I feel. ThoseĀ are the 2 most important areas I feel need covering, and both those players have very good pedigree so weāre certainly not done yet folks - I wanted to say āfingers crossed for Kochā too, but I feared receiving a raft ofĀ unwanted offers in my private messages. https://www.pinkun.com/norwich-city/canaries-ondrej-duda-loan-move-inside-track-1-6461419 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dean Coneys boots 1,531 Posted January 11, 2020 Good signing but seems a strange one given that we are scoring goals but not defending so well. Let us hope it is just a first buy and that CB is coming hot on his heels...Ā I remember another season when everyone could see we needed a CB but kept buying number 10s!Ā Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
A Load of Squit 6,260 Posted January 11, 2020 5 minutes ago, Dean Coneys boots said: Good signing but seems a strange one given that we are scoring goals but not defending so well. Let us hope it is just a first buy and that CB is coming hot on his heels...Ā I remember another season when everyone could see we needed a CB but kept buying number 10s!Ā Deals don't get done by the teams priority, you get the players in when they become available. There were some stats going around over the last few days highlighting our lack of goals from the no. 10 position, looks like they've decided to do something about it. Ā 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Monty13 2,736 Posted January 11, 2020 10 minutes ago, Dean Coneys boots said: Good signing but seems a strange one given that we are scoring goals but not defending so well. Let us hope it is just a first buy and that CB is coming hot on his heels...Ā I remember another season when everyone could see we needed a CB but kept buying number 10s!Ā We have shown a complete inability to score the extra 1 or 2 goals needed to kill off games we are dominating so Iād have to disagree that we donāt need attacking improvement. Asking any defence to hold onto a 1 nil lead is always a gamble, one we are continuously losing at the minute. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alex Moss 2,167 Posted January 11, 2020 (edited) We have 100% looked more solid since the peak of the injury crisis I feel, whereĀ we often looked at sixes and sevens at the back.Ā And when weāre not drawing we seem to be losing by a solitary goal. I think Duda could really make that difference in our attacking armoury. A front starting four of Pukki, Cantwell, Duda and Buendia could be mouthwatering - to me he looks the final piece of the jigsaw in that area and I donāt think itās unreasonable to think he could be that missing clinicalĀ link weāve needed, the one that converts draws to wins. Canāt help but be excited by his arrival, I have a very good feeling about him. Edited January 11, 2020 by Alex Moss Missing words 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dean Coneys boots 1,531 Posted January 11, 2020 Hope you are right. And I look forward to seeing him play But, sadly, I am less excited with the deal overall asĀ I have reservations.Ā How long for him to bed in? I ask because his father has stated openly thatĀ he only wants to play in the top division and, given that we have so few points, we are very, very unlikely to be in that division beyond this summer. So then we lose him having paid quite a chunk for what gain exactly? I guess the hope is that he helps us survive. But haven't we done the 'too little too late panic signings' before and had claimed we have learnt from them?Ā Ā At this stage young promising full time signings would surely be the prudent option given that few have survived with 14 points at this stage. And again given our leaky defence- one injury away from disaster - I was hoping for a really decent young CB and CDM who could transition into our next season.Ā I will put my tin hat on.Ā Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herman 11,136 Posted January 11, 2020 "But, sadly, I am less excited with the deal overall asĀ I have reservations." What a surprise.DCB moaning about someone we haven't officially signed yet.Ā Damned if we do. Damned if we don't. What a drudge. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alex Moss 2,167 Posted January 11, 2020 1 minute ago, Dean Coneys boots said: Hope you are right. And I look forward to seeing him play But, sadly, I am less excited with the deal overall asĀ I have reservations.Ā How long for him to bed in? I ask because his father has stated openly thatĀ he only wants to play in the top division and, given that we have so few points, we are very, very unlikely to be in that division beyond this summer. So then we lose him having paid quite a chunk for what gain exactly? I guess the hope is that he helps us survive. But haven't we done the 'too little too late panic signings' before and had claimed we have learnt from them?Ā Ā At this stage young promising full time signings would surely be the prudent option given that few have survived with 14 points at this stage. And again given our leaky defence- one injury away from disaster - I was hoping for a really decent young CB and CDM who could transition into our next season.Ā I will put my tin hat on.Ā Who says we wonāt sign that young centre back? And why should we just roll over and not sign a talented player with nearly half the season to play on the basis that some have us relegated already? Supporters would be going mental if we didnāt try to rectify or improve the situation, so.... ? Remember, ifĀ Duda does very well, then he may just help turn draws into wins and keep us in the division, thus giving us the chance to sign him. And if it doesnāt work out, then none of us will be disappointed that we wonāt be able to sign him in the summer. Itās pretty simple really : ) 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Clint 221 Posted January 11, 2020 Basically itās got to the point that anyone signing will help our survival chances, even if itās only marginal gains. We are woefully short on numbers and only Pukki and Cantwell have really scored any league goals this season, which is quite a damning fact as to why weāre sitting bottom of the league. Ā Weāre going into a match today with one fit striker, an 18 year old whoĀ has 2 minutesĀ of premier league football to his name. Yes, you could argue itās too little too late and our summer recruitment was a shambles but Iāve not given up just yet and if Duda makes any kind of contribution over the next few months, Iām all for it. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aggy 944 Posted January 11, 2020 (edited) 36 minutes ago, Monty13 said: We have shown a complete inability to score the extra 1 or 2 goals needed to kill off games we are dominating so Iād have to disagree that we donāt need attacking improvement. Asking any defence to hold onto a 1 nil lead is always a gamble, one we are continuously losing at the minute. Agreed. Also, are we scoring that many goals? Only four sides in the division have scored fewer than us, so weāre hardly free flowing. And apparently Buendia is the second highest chance creator in the division, which may suggest we arenāt converting. Add to that the fact we have the worst defence (by quite some way, only Villa are close) and thereās an argument we need to score more to counter balance that. We got promoted by outscoring sides - it was obvious that when we came up weād score fewer and concede more against better opposition without strengthening in attack and defence. That hasĀ been shown to be true, so reinforcements anywhere are welcome imo! Edited January 11, 2020 by Aggy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Terminally Yellow 2,614 Posted January 11, 2020 34 minutes ago, Dean Coneys boots said: Hope you are right. And I look forward to seeing him play But, sadly, I am less excited with the deal overall asĀ I have reservations.Ā How long for him to bed in? I ask because his father has stated openly thatĀ he only wants to play in the top division and, given that we have so few points, we are very, very unlikely to be in that division beyond this summer. So then we lose him having paid quite a chunk for what gain exactly? I guess the hope is that he helps us survive. But haven't we done the 'too little too late panic signings' before and had claimed we have learnt from them?Ā Ā At this stage young promising full time signings would surely be the prudent option given that few have survived with 14 points at this stage. And again given our leaky defence- one injury away from disaster - I was hoping for a really decent young CB and CDM who could transition into our next season.Ā I will put my tin hat on.Ā The problem with some fans is they forget this is a game, for entertainment purposes. If he comes in, helps us play some exciting football and entertains us, the fans, for six months, is that not a loan worth doing?Ā For me, I think this is a good thing for the club (we're getting a talented player who on paper would seem to improve the squad), good thing for the player (he gets out and plays games at a high level to either put him in the shop window or back in contention at his parent club) and good for us fans as we get to see a player who seems to have a good pedigree. I say enjoy the ride without thinking their needs to be some master plan surrounding every signing. 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gordon Bennett 914 Posted January 11, 2020 1 hour ago, A Load of Squit said: Deals don't get done by the teams priority, you get the players in when they become available. There were some stats going around over the last few days highlighting our lack of goals from the no. 10 position, looks like they've decided to do something about it. Ā It amazes me that season after season after season people still donāt get this.Ā 4 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Capt. Pants 5,008 Posted January 11, 2020 (edited) Creates competition for places, which is a good thing. Emi and Todd might have an eye on bigger and better things for the future but that doesn't mean they deserve automatic selection. They both need to finish the season strongly so will need to earn their place, so we'll need consistency from Todd and goals from Emi. McLean is the interesting one for me as I actually think he has done well but has it been good enough? It's obvious we need another specialist CB. It would be reckless to rely on Tettey and Amadou as cover. Edited January 11, 2020 by Capt. Pants 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vlad666 207 Posted January 11, 2020 His competition for the attacking centre midfield spot are McLean and steiperman. I read they have a combined total of one goal and one assist all season.( Not checked if this is correct. ) AnyĀ time you can potentially upgrade the first eleven you should take it, unless it will put you in financial difficulty.Ā Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lake district canary 4,830 Posted January 11, 2020 How soon he will play for us is the question. Depends on his mentality and ability to fit the system, but to get a player in that is going to make a difference half way through the season, he has to be able to fit in straight away - and that isn't always easy for a player, however good they are. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Indy 3,471 Posted January 11, 2020 1 hour ago, Herman said: "But, sadly, I am less excited with the deal overall asĀ I have reservations." What a surprise.DCB moaning about someone we haven't officially signed yet.Ā Damned if we do. Damned if we don't. What a drudge. Herman, I can sort of understand as I too would have loved this as a permanent signing, very good player for our club, Iāll take a loan as thatās whatās done. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alex Moss 2,167 Posted January 11, 2020 1 minute ago, lake district canary said: How soon he will play for us is the question. Depends on his mentality and ability to fit the system, but to get a player in that is going to make a difference half way through the season, he has to be able to fit in straight away - and that isn't always easy for a player, however good they are. He looks a very intelligent player who I would imagine could seamlessly slot right in. I wouldnāt imagine thereās anything he couldnāt pick up in a week tactics wise, I think match fitness is more likely an issue but we will see.Ā Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hogesar 10,762 Posted January 11, 2020 1 hour ago, Herman said: "But, sadly, I am less excited with the deal overall asĀ I have reservations." What a surprise.DCB moaning about someone we haven't officially signed yet.Ā Damned if we do. Damned if we don't. What a drudge. Can you imagine DCBs wife (I mean, admittedly you'd first need to be pretty imaginative to think said wife exists) running into the house to greet him with major excitement "We've won the lottery!!!" only for DCB to come back with "What's the point, I'll probably die before I get to spend it all" 7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Faded Jaded Semi Plastic SOB 1,223 Posted January 11, 2020 38 minutes ago, lake district canary said: How soon he will play for us is the question. Depends on his mentality and ability to fit the system, but to get a player in that is going to make a difference half way through the season, he has to be able to fit in straight away - and that isn't always easy for a player, however good they are. He will be used to the German way of playing football. A friend of mine spends a lot of time in Germany and watches a lot of Bundesliga games and he tells me that Norwich play the same/similar to most teams in that league. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dean Coneys boots 1,531 Posted January 11, 2020 1 hour ago, hogesar said: Can you imagine DCBs wife (I mean, admittedly you'd first need to be pretty imaginative to think said wife exists) running into the house to greet him with major excitement "We've won the lottery!!!" only for DCB to come back with "What's the point, I'll probably die before I get to spend it all" A better analogy would be Mrs DCB running in happy because she purchased a speed boat when the family car was in need of replacing... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
keelansgrandad 6,680 Posted January 11, 2020 Good signing but seems a strange one given that we are scoring goals but not defending so well. Let us hope it is just a first buy and that CB is coming hot on his heels...Ā Not necessarily CB's fault. Our style sends the full backs up the pitch. Maybe our holding midfield players are not good enough. But I am one who thinks zonal marking is a big contributor. And people can throw up stats about it, but it clearly doesn't work for us. Even pundits are talking about it. And we are not exactly scoring more than a goal a game. So we cannot really say we are scoring goals. In fact we have failed toĀ score in one third of our games. But it is ironic that the Blades have only scored one more than us and sit fifth. But they have only conceded 21. I don't wish to start another argument as I know many would swap what they are doing for what we are doing, but I am of the opinion that this is the best footballing team we have ever had although it is arguable we have had better teams. in different eras. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardhouse44 289 Posted January 11, 2020 3 hours ago, Dean Coneys boots said: Good signing but seems a strange one given that we are scoring goals but not defending so well. Let us hope it is just a first buy and that CB is coming hot on his heels...Ā I remember another season when everyone could see we needed a CB but kept buying number 10s!Ā Which leads me to believe heās a replacement for someone leaving. Cantwell maybe or even Emi. i donāt trust the board as far as I could throw them.Ā Ā Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jim Smith 2,610 Posted January 11, 2020 In virtually all of our recentĀ home games we have been dominant in the first half but missed 3 or 4 decent chances (or in the case of Spurs been denied by VAR)Ā and gone in only one goal ahead. Had we been more clinical and opened up the cushion in those games we should have done then I have no doubt we would have won a couple of them. Some of it was down to some uncharacteristic misses from a not fully fit Pukki but if Duda can help to make us more clinical then he good be an important signing, even if it is probably too late now.Ā Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jim Smith 2,610 Posted January 11, 2020 We are also not conceding that many goals from open play any more. It remains set pieces and the following second phase that are the problem.Ā Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vlad666 207 Posted January 11, 2020 21 minutes ago, keelansgrandad said: Good signing but seems a strange one given that we are scoring goals but not defending so well. Let us hope it is just a first buy and that CB is coming hot on his heels...Ā Not necessarily CB's fault. Our style sends the full backs up the pitch. Maybe our holding midfield players are not good enough. But I am one who thinks zonal marking is a big contributor. And people can throw up stats about it, but it clearly doesn't work for us. Even pundits are talking about it. And we are not exactly scoring more than a goal a game. So we cannot really say we are scoring goals. In fact we have failed toĀ score in one third of our games. But it is ironic that the Blades have only scored one more than us and sit fifth. But they have only conceded 21. I don't wish to start another argument as I know many would swap what they are doing for what we are doing, but I am of the opinion that this is the best footballing team we have ever had although it is arguable we have had better teams. in different eras. Agree with the zonal marking argument. Think it can work if you have a strong physical side. With ours not being that physical, anyone with a running jump is going to tend to win the ball.Ā Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JF 694 Posted January 11, 2020 Looks a good signing. We literally have two players that are scoring goals so if he can chip in as well then some of these draws may be wins Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alex Moss 2,167 Posted January 11, 2020 Missing piece in the forward jigsaw I think šš¼ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kenny Foggo 1,194 Posted January 11, 2020 Hopefully can help stick away some of the many chances we create... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kenny Foggo 1,194 Posted January 11, 2020 Still need forward cover and a centre back Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GenerationA47 864 Posted January 11, 2020 Isnāt Idah our forward cover now, or have I been naively seduced by the performance against Preston B...? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
