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Kenny Foggo

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For me the key thing is ... stop repeating the failed strategy of the past whilst accepting that we won't sell out to a billionaire any time soon.

 

This means ...

1. Starting with an ethos / philosophy / style and only recruiting players and a head coach to suit that.

2. Aiming to always be greater than the sum of our parts (round pegs in round holes).

3. Never being too dependent on one player / a manager.

4. Investing in young talent and developing it at academy level and with excellent training facilities before selling them on for lucrative profit - for further investment.

5. Seeing THIS promotion as an unexpected free hit to clear the debts, tie down young talent (core assets) to good contracts, showcase this young talent and give top level experience to our head coach and players.

6. Being in a far stronger position next season to fight for promotion than following any other relegation and CRUCIALLY returning to the top tier able to spend more than this time round.

Like Burnley and WBA bouncing back and forth a wee bit before sticking for a sustained spell (are there any 'established' clubs lower than Wolves/Everton?).

 

This is long term planning to make us an established top club without the risk that foreign ownership brings.

I'm fascinated to watch it pan out and glad that we have a brave and intelligent club to be proud of but ... my fear is that (knowing the Championship as we all do!) bouncing back from relegation isn't ever a doddle - however smartly you plan for it ... it's a vipers' nest!

 

I suppose at worst we'll only end up back where we were pre Webber/Farke but in a far stronger financial position and with some fab memories.

Enjoy the ride!

Edited by Cantiaci Canary
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7 hours ago, jaberry2 said:

We have just progressed a bit sooner than expected. The plan will always be to be a steady premiership outfit.

How do you work that out when the owners state they are happy and want city to be a top 26 position club. How many teams are there in the premiership!!

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We are the champions at getting promotion and instant relegation. Seems that’s enough for many on here but you’d think we would have worked out how to stop up by now.

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I think, to be honest the buy / loan for low amounts has really not worked this summer. Webber maybe can do it at championship level but not proved at top flight yet.

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On 02/01/2020 at 11:58, PurpleCanary said:

I can only go on what has been said publicly, but my understanding is as follows:

1) The club continues to invest in Colney - work there is not finished - to attract talented yougsters.

2) The scouting network looks for good young British talent but also has finding young overseas players as a priority (Brexit may interfere with this).

3) Promotion to the Premier League will not spark a spending splurge on high-wage players with long and expensive contracts, so relegation will not cripple the finances  as it threatened to last time. Instead the assumption is that a player or two or three will inevitably be sold, but the overall squad, bumped up with the next generation of talent, will survive, as will the style of play - arguably the main point of the sporting-director plan.

4) So there is consistency and organic growth in terms of the squad but also crucially with the finances (definitely keeping within FFP rules), giving the club the best chance of getting back to the PL, with the eventual aim that a gradual strengthening of the squad will enable it to get up and stay up. I doubt there is a specific timeframe on this.

In general the plan is very different to the course pursued last time we went up and got relegated. The first part of 3) has already happened, of course, and last summer's transfer business exemplified 2).

Just to add, I don't know whether the plan is best defined as medium-term or long-term, but what it definitely is not is short-term. Leaving aside this January window, unless there are major moves out, the first real signs of how it works - and whether it works - will not come until the summer, after relegation.

Then we will see how many players get sold and for what money, and how many prize assets stay. How much of the money received then gets spent on potential first-team players and how much earmarked for off-field projects. How many of last summer's acquisitions for the future move up to the first-team squad. How many new for-the-future acquisitions there are, and of what quality.

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At some point, the bubble will burst and a couple of major clubs will go under. That will then likely spark a major movement on how clubs are run. I think at that point, we will see a re-balance of competitiveness. Clubs like ours will benefit more than most.

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1 minute ago, Michael Starr said:

At some point, the bubble will burst and a couple of major clubs will go under. That will then likely spark a major movement on how clubs are run. I think at that point, we will see a re-balance of competitiveness. Clubs like ours will benefit more than most.

I would love to have some of what ever you are on

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On 02/01/2020 at 19:50, Kenny Foggo said:

I think, to be honest the buy / loan for low amounts has really not worked this summer. Webber maybe can do it at championship level but not proved at top flight yet.

We're still suffering the fallout from past failures. We only managed to clear out the remaining dead wood this Summer.

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3 minutes ago, Jobsworth Canary said:

I would love to have some of what ever you are on

What , intelligence?....you'd only waste it!!!:classic_cool:

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6 minutes ago, Michael Starr said:

Happened in Italy.

In Italy you don't have Amazon, Sky, BT bidding billions for your product 

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14 minutes ago, Michael Starr said:

At some point, the bubble will burst and a couple of major clubs will go under. That will then likely spark a major movement on how clubs are run. I think at that point, we will see a re-balance of competitiveness. Clubs like ours will benefit more than most.

We were a james maddison sale away from being in a lot of trouble ourselves

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13 minutes ago, Kenny Foggo said:

In Italy you don't have Amazon, Sky, BT bidding billions for your product 

And also, decent-sized Serie A/B clubs can generally reform straight away in the fourth tier so for a club that's struggling financially, it's not a serious problem to fold and start again.

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On 02/01/2020 at 15:33, PurpleCanary said:

GPB, the real problem is that the FFP limit was changed from £13m a season to £39m over three. 

It’s a minor point, but the initial Championship FFP rules (which were actually introduced during our three season Premier League stint between 2011-14) were intended at the time to reduce allowable annual losses from £8m pa to £3m pa over the course of three seasons.

However, it immediately became apparent that a number of clubs were likely to smash the thresholds, so the Championship clubs agreed to increase the allowable losses to £39m pa over three seasons - to also coincide with the Premier League rolling three year review period.

Personally, I find it was remarkable that FFP, originally introduced with the sole purpose of bringing some element of financial control to the way clubs were behaving, was changed so they could actually behave far worse!

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