BobLoz3 609 Posted December 17, 2019 https://www.pinkun.com/norwich-city/nelson-oliveira-on-norwich-city-spell-1-6428600 Don't be daft, Nelson. What he did was one of the single most disrespectful things I've seen in football and he definitely deserved to be punished in the way he was. But hey, at least he's in Greece now and it's warm and they don't just have fish and chips on the menu... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Branston Pickle 4,145 Posted December 17, 2019 Meh; look at where we were and where we are now - looks like the right decisions were made overall. Â Good player but far too temperamental, a lesson for others to be aware of. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jobsworth Canary 168 Posted December 17, 2019 Seems a reasonable summary of his time from his perspective I suppose I can understand why it would be difficult to adapt to a new country as for the food Norwich isn’t exactly a hub of gastronomic excellence Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Midlands Yellow 4,682 Posted December 17, 2019 Nice salads in Greece but I don’t think their food is in the top 10 For culinary delights served in Europe. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hogesar 10,761 Posted December 17, 2019 37 minutes ago, Jobsworth Canary said: Seems a reasonable summary of his time from his perspective I suppose I can understand why it would be difficult to adapt to a new country as for the food Norwich isn’t exactly a hub of gastronomic excellence Well, if you gave other people the opportunity to eat... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Faded Jaded Semi Plastic SOB 1,220 Posted December 17, 2019 I usually ignore the Jobsworth wind ups but on this occasion I will not, given the wages Nelson would have been on there are numerous fine dining options open to him in Norwich, Norfolk and dare I say it within easy travelling distance in Suffolk....... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Midlands Yellow 4,682 Posted December 17, 2019 https://youtu.be/l14WRwYyLHU  Nothing wrong with well cooked English food. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jobsworth Canary 168 Posted December 17, 2019 2 minutes ago, Midlands Yellow said: https://youtu.be/l14WRwYyLHU  Nothing wrong with well cooked English food. That is absolutely brilliant 😂😂😂😂 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jobsworth Canary 168 Posted December 17, 2019 The height of Norfolk gastronomic achievement 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BobLoz3 609 Posted December 17, 2019 56 minutes ago, Jobsworth Canary said: Seems a reasonable summary of his time from his perspective I suppose I can understand why it would be difficult to adapt to a new country as for the food Norwich isn’t exactly a hub of gastronomic excellence I dunno... The market is excellent nowadays! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BobLoz3 609 Posted December 17, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Branston Pickle said: Meh; look at where we were and where we are now - looks like the right decisions were made overall. Â Good player but far too temperamental, a lesson for others to be aware of. I think that where we are now has less to do with Nelson and more to do with Farke getting the balance right eventually. Oh... and getting Pukki on a free of course Edited December 17, 2019 by BobLoz3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mello Yello 2,571 Posted December 17, 2019 3 minutes ago, Jobsworth Canary said: The height of Norfolk gastronomic achievement Is that a diet coke?..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Midlands Yellow 4,682 Posted December 17, 2019 And for pasta lovers https://youtu.be/zNto-3DvDpw Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jobsworth Canary 168 Posted December 17, 2019 4 minutes ago, Mello Yello said: Is that a diet coke?..... Indeed have to look after my figure Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mello Yello 2,571 Posted December 17, 2019 Just now, Jobsworth Canary said: Indeed have to look after my figure Good Man.....a most sensible approach to looking after one's health..... "The only way to hide lard......is to lose it...... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Petriix 3,214 Posted December 17, 2019 He was a bad fit for the club and city in numerous ways; not least his lack of awareness of the awesome food available from Norwich restaurants, or indeed the fact that England typically has a more diverse range of foods available to buy (if just as raw ingredients) than many other countries. I would argue that the 'disrespect' show at the Fulham game pales into insignificance when viewed alongside the real reason he couldn't hold down a place in the team: his lack of workrate and his failure to adapt to the fundamental change in footballing philosophy underpinning the club's subsequent success. A complete antithesis to Pukki, Nelson seemed to never make any runs off the ball and gave the midfield very little to work with. He would not press, never tracked back to defend and simply failed to put in the required level of effort which ultimately undermined his undoubted skill. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
king canary 8,750 Posted December 17, 2019 1 hour ago, BobLoz3 said: https://www.pinkun.com/norwich-city/nelson-oliveira-on-norwich-city-spell-1-6428600 Don't be daft, Nelson. What he did was one of the single most disrespectful things I've seen in football and he definitely deserved to be punished in the way he was. But hey, at least he's in Greece now and it's warm and they don't just have fish and chips on the menu... Probably not a popular opinion but I found Wes refusing to celebrate his goal against Villa because he wanted to sign for them to be more disrespectful than Nelson at Fulham. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Il Pirata 249 Posted December 17, 2019 12 minutes ago, king canary said: Probably not a popular opinion but I found Wes refusing to celebrate his goal against Villa because he wanted to sign for them to be more disrespectful than Nelson at Fulham. I think he made amends. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BobLoz3 609 Posted December 17, 2019 27 minutes ago, king canary said: Probably not a popular opinion but I found Wes refusing to celebrate his goal against Villa because he wanted to sign for them to be more disrespectful than Nelson at Fulham. Well, yes that was also annoying but Wes gave us a lot more of himself than Nelson ever did so I'll forget that one 😉 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BobLoz3 609 Posted December 17, 2019 (edited) 34 minutes ago, Petriix said: He was a bad fit for the club and city in numerous ways; not least his lack of awareness of the awesome food available from Norwich restaurants, or indeed the fact that England typically has a more diverse range of foods available to buy (if just as raw ingredients) than many other countries. I would argue that the 'disrespect' show at the Fulham game pales into insignificance when viewed alongside the real reason he couldn't hold down a place in the team: his lack of workrate and his failure to adapt to the fundamental change in footballing philosophy underpinning the club's subsequent success. A complete antithesis to Pukki, Nelson seemed to never make any runs off the ball and gave the midfield very little to work with. He would not press, never tracked back to defend and simply failed to put in the required level of effort which ultimately undermined his undoubted skill. Agreed. He was intent on taking hopeless pot shots from range for the most part. Probably because that's EXACTLY what Farke told him not to do. It was just a continuation of his 'rebellion' against the new regime. Which goes back to my original point... Â Edited December 17, 2019 by BobLoz3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nuff Said 5,959 Posted December 17, 2019 1 hour ago, Midlands Yellow said: Nice salads in Greece but I don’t think their food is in the top 10 For culinary delights served in Europe. Food in Crete (which is in Greece) is absolutely superb. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
clever trevor 16 Posted December 17, 2019 Never stays long at any club he has played for suggests the problem is him not the club.On reflection he was not good enough although he obviously liked the financial rewards of being in Norfolk. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JF 694 Posted December 17, 2019 Talking **** isn’t he. Ronaldo managed to adapt to life in England quite well I remember... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Midlands Yellow 4,682 Posted December 17, 2019 3 hours ago, Nuff Said said: Food in Crete (which is in Greece)Â is absolutely superb. Have they moved it ? It was an island under Greek sovereignty when I visited. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nuff Said 5,959 Posted December 17, 2019 21 minutes ago, Midlands Yellow said: Have they moved it ? It was an island under Greek sovereignty when I visited. I didn’t have you down as a pedant MY. Welcome to the club! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wcorkcanary 4,781 Posted December 17, 2019 The more we see of what DF requires from his players, the more it becomes apparent that Nelson Oliviera was never ever ever going to fit in under the current regime. His love of money over football can be the only explanation I can think of as to why he stuck around so long. Occasionally brilliant, mostly frustrating. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TeemuVanBasten 3,328 Posted December 18, 2019 Matt Derbyshire tore up the Greek league but was very average in the Championship, if you want an idea of the standard of the Greek league. It's basically the SPL but with 2 Celtics and 2 Rangers. Also, we know he has his purple patches. He had the talent and belief but that's 50 percent of what you need, he was lacking in everything else. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TeemuVanBasten 3,328 Posted December 18, 2019 (edited) 17 hours ago, JF said: Talking **** isn’t he. Ronaldo managed to adapt to life in England quite well I remember... He has a very special mentality though, a single-minded determination to be the best player in the world. So many special talents don't have that and fall off, like Adriano and Robinho. 20 hours ago, BobLoz3 said: Agreed. He was intent on taking hopeless pot shots from range for the most part. Probably because that's EXACTLY what Farke told him not to do. It was just a continuation of his 'rebellion' against the new regime. Which goes back to my original point... Those pot shots really did get ludicrous, you'd want him to try from range but he'd take shots at near impossible angles. A decent striker and we'd have finished up towards the play offs somewhere. Should have kept Jerome for 6 more months and sold Oliviera in that January window. Edited December 18, 2019 by TeemuVanBasten Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
king canary 8,750 Posted December 18, 2019 7 minutes ago, TeemuVanBasten said: Those pot shots really did get ludicrous, you'd want him to try from range but he'd take shots at near impossible angles. A decent striker and we'd have finished up towards the play offs somewhere. Should have kept Jerome for 6 more months and sold Oliviera in that January window. Lets not forget Jerome was awful that season in front of goal too and said Farke's training was too much for him when he left. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jaberry2 769 Posted December 18, 2019 Its a shame really. He had the opportunity to become a real firm favorite amongst supporters, but i'm not surprised he moved on looking at his career history. Completely uninterested now in what his experience was and was clearly a divisive figure towards the end of his stint. Cheerio Nelson. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites