......and Smith must score. 1,311 Posted November 22, 2019 So here we are at 12 games played with just 7 points from a possible 36. 40 points seems to be the accepted survival target although sometimes less than that that are needed. With 26 games to play we need 33 points from 76 to reach the magic 40. The return of Zimmermann will be a big plus. He's been built up to superhero status and I do hope we're not expecting a bit too much from him. Whatever extra he will bring to the side his team mates have got to do their bit too. I think we're finding we're a bit short of quality for the Premier League. Even with a new face or two in January survival looks a big ask. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Half Ar5ed Hipster 82 Posted November 22, 2019 In terms of 19/20 Premier League retention, not sure but overall, yes, the club will survive 🙂 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Graham Paddons Beard 2,352 Posted November 22, 2019 Put it this way... At first I was afraid , I was petrified... 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
keelansgrandad 6,679 Posted November 22, 2019 Unlikely but still a long way to go. If Zimmermann is back tomorrow and we see Mario and Amadou in then we should improve. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BobLoz3 486 Posted November 22, 2019 31 minutes ago, ......and Smith must score. said: So here we are at 12 games played with just 7 points from a possible 36. 40 points seems to be the accepted survival target although sometimes less than that that are needed. With 26 games to play we need 33 points from 76 to reach the magic 40. The return of Zimmermann will be a big plus. He's been built up to superhero status and I do hope we're not expecting a bit too much from him. Whatever extra he will bring to the side his team mates have got to do their bit too. I think we're finding we're a bit short of quality for the Premier League. Even with a new face or two in January survival looks a big ask. 10 game winning streak starting with Everton tomorrow! LET'S GO! OTBC 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Midlands Yellow 3,825 Posted November 22, 2019 20% chance . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ricardo 7,239 Posted November 22, 2019 10 minutes ago, Midlands Yellow said: 20% chance . Statistically less than that. However we live in hope. What else is there to do? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Midlands Yellow 3,825 Posted November 22, 2019 Start a run of form tomorrow and thrash Leicester in December. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wacky Waving Inflatable Arm Flailing Tube Man 3,703 Posted November 22, 2019 Probably not, but the chances of survival are far greater than the chances of promotion at the start of last season. 26 games left, and about 30 points or so added to our current total of seven would hopefully give us enough to stay up. So that's around eight wins and a few draws here and there. Difficult? Very. Impossible? No. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Big Vince 317 Posted November 22, 2019 No chance with the Socialists in charge. They are experts at relegation. You only need a quick glance at their CVs. There is not a single fan of another club in this league who would swap their owners for the Socialists. And they have yet to explain where the money is coming from to fund their £196bn renationalisation programme. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nuff Said 4,938 Posted November 22, 2019 Right, I’ve tried to do this before, it wasn’t obvious, so I gave up. How do you block a poster on here? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Indy 3,232 Posted November 22, 2019 Still early in the season, but nope not much chance of staying up, never really had much of a chance in reality, but hell its a great season, live football on tv meaning big money, playing against the best clubs in the world and watching our home grown and hard working players give it their best. Beating Man City might be our big highlight for this season, what a highlight, what a season and relegation shouldn’t be looked at as a disaster, but an opportunity to build on a Championship season. We go again. OTBC. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ward 3 367 Posted November 22, 2019 No we wont. Last season was a massive over achievement. This season we are facing the horrible reality Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tetteys Jig 830 Posted November 22, 2019 doesnt look good but Zimmermann is back now so prepared to see how December pans out before I make my mind up. win 2 of the next 3 and we are back in the mix Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Van wink 2,994 Posted November 22, 2019 Too early to say. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lake district canary 4,520 Posted November 22, 2019 46 minutes ago, Van wink said: Too early to say. This^^^ Still over two thirds of the season to go and plenty of opportunities for points to be won.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
makham 77 Posted November 22, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, Nuff Said said: Right, I’ve tried to do this before, it wasn’t obvious, so I gave up. How do you block a poster on here? Top right hand corner of Pinkun banner at top of page , there is an icon and drop down menu for your account settings / sign in / out etc. There is  'ignored users' in the list. Click on that. Then you'll see a search box where you can put the name of the poster you want to block. As you key in the character string of their name, it quickly narrows down the users. By the time, you type in the letter "V" after Big<space>, you should find who you're looking for. You could also just wait a bit. An upturn in our form, and they won't post much anyway. Edited November 22, 2019 by makham 2 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
City fan 78 Posted November 22, 2019 Depends on who they get in during the transfer window. Need a couple if old school defenders to tighten the back up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Capt. Pants 4,092 Posted November 22, 2019 We're not cut adrift yet but defeat tomorrow and the gap to 15th looks huge. We going to have to match Villa's results as s minimum going forward too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr Angry 1,512 Posted November 22, 2019 5 hours ago, ......and Smith must score. said: So here we are at 12 games played with just 7 points from a possible 36. 40 points seems to be the accepted survival target although sometimes less than that that are needed. With 26 games to play we need 33 points from 76 to reach the magic 40. The return of Zimmermann will be a big plus. He's been built up to superhero status and I do hope we're not expecting a bit too much from him. Whatever extra he will bring to the side his team mates have got to do their bit too. I think we're finding we're a bit short of quality for the Premier League. Even with a new face or two in January survival looks a big ask. Not unless we get a little crazy 😜 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gordon Bennett 768 Posted November 22, 2019 Maybe, maybe not but I’m certainly not going to worry about that yet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wcorkcanary 4,315 Posted November 22, 2019 1 hour ago, City fan said: Depends on who they get in during the transfer window. Need a couple if old school defenders to tighten the back up. Not old school , Fano, just decent., with the footballing savvy to play with our system.   We are in a pickle though, once Zimbo is back, our first choice pairing is obvious. Come January, do we go for back up/s or replacement/s ? The best we can afford or someone who fits longer term? I suppose the obvious  answer is all of the above. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HazzaJet 252 Posted November 22, 2019 At the start of the season several of my mates who all support other teams said they thought we will survival and still do. I’ve had strong doubts since the start (I always do when we win promotion) but what we must remember is that any game is winnable, we are still only 4 points adrift of safety, 8 points adrift of mid-table, and 10 points adrift of the Europa League. Though I think that if we are going to survive, we have to start making a comeback very soon. To be honest I don’t think we will survive as I can’t see us making a comeback but hopefully we will. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
East Rider 538 Posted November 22, 2019 from the start of the season I believed we would survive albeit concede a number of goals along the way. IF we can get Zimmermann back and IF he plays as well as we hope he can, then there is everything to play for and be positive about. Ideally we need Klose as well. I am though naturally a half a glass full type person. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BroadstairsR 2,093 Posted November 23, 2019 (edited) 11 hours ago, East Rider said: from the start of the season I believed we would survive albeit concede a number of goals along the way. IF we can get Zimmermann back and IF he plays as well as we hope he can, then there is everything to play for and be positive about. Ideally we need Klose as well. I am though naturally a half a glass full type person. I personally feel that we can survive, but that it is a close run thing. My faith in Farkism and the squad's talent leads me to believe that we can turn the corner but that it is so vital that it needs to happen almost immediately. Optimistically I am hoping that the decline of the injury list and in particular the return of the Zimmer leads to an upturn in results that will see us return from the doomed status to the vulnerable status as far as Premier League survival goes. A little run of decent, point accumulating, games could change the lot.Confidence will return to the squad and pessimism will  elude the support.  A decent result today, even a draw, could be the stepping stone to a brighter future, even though that future might mean we assume the mantle of strugglers rather than doom-artists. Edited November 23, 2019 by BroadstairsR Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kanadyan Kanary 118 Posted November 23, 2019 It's going to be tough. Our defensive abilities cause the most concern and have for a number of years. Even if everyone is fit, we still ship a lot of goals. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
keelansgrandad 6,679 Posted November 23, 2019 WHU getting a tanking against Spurs. They could have gone third on October 5th. We win today (yes I know) and we are only the game we lost to them behind them. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
......and Smith must score. 1,311 Posted November 23, 2019 6 hours ago, keelansgrandad said: WHU getting a tanking against Spurs. They could have gone third on October 5th. We win today (yes I know) and we are only the game we lost to them behind them. Talked that up nicely 😀 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites