wcorkcanary 4,334 Posted November 21, 2019 5 minutes ago, Nuff Said said: Heresy! There was only one ginger Pele. Don't forget he played up front and in defence internationally too. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
norfolkbroadslim 223 Posted November 21, 2019 1 minute ago, wcorkcanary said: Don't forget he played up front and in defence internationally too. Wasn't he a midfielder? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nuff Said 5,118 Posted November 21, 2019 Just now, norfolkbroadslim said: Wasn't he a midfielder? I guess that’s the average if you add striker and defender and then divide by two? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
norfolkbroadslim 223 Posted November 21, 2019 (edited) Chris Sutton was a defender who someone thought might be quite good in attack and even after he became a striker, still filled in as a defender on occasion. Edited November 21, 2019 by norfolkbroadslim Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kathy 733 Posted November 21, 2019 6 hours ago, nutty nigel said: The boy Stringer was a fullback... The boy Downs was a striker.. The boy Sutton was both. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wcorkcanary 4,334 Posted November 22, 2019 8 hours ago, Kathy said: The boy Sutton was both. He was a centre half wasn't he, not a full back. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ROBFLECK 132 Posted November 22, 2019 (edited) 9 hours ago, Nuff Said said: P.S. DO NOT FEED THE TROLL. The sooner we all stop replying to “Big” Vince’s threads, the sooner he’ll stop posting them. This ^^^^ , I keep wondering why so many people reply (ooops...I just have...) Edited November 22, 2019 by ROBFLECK Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nuff Said 5,118 Posted November 22, 2019 1 hour ago, ROBFLECK said: This ^^^^ , I keep wondering why so many people reply (ooops...I just have...) I know, I realise the irony... just done it again 😠 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Feedthewolf 4,846 Posted November 22, 2019 18 hours ago, PurpleCanary said: Yes, I wondered if you'd fall into the little trap I set, by saying Allcock had only 'filled in'. In fact he played 22 games in the 1964-65 season in central defence, and pretty much all of the 1965-66 and 1966-67 seasons, and part of the 1967-68 season. It's like shooting fish in a barrel, isn't it? How surprising that he didn't deign to reply... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
king canary 7,599 Posted November 22, 2019 Simon Charlton wasn't the problem by himself- but him and Fleming must have been one of the shortest central defensive pairings ever. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ricardo 7,381 Posted November 22, 2019 I know BV is a troll but there is a certain amount of truth in his post. Yes, we can claim bad luck on the injury front but there can be no denying that central defence has been a constant weakness during our recent tenures in the Premier League. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ROBFLECK 132 Posted November 22, 2019 2 hours ago, ricardo said: central defence has been a constant weakness during our recent tenures in the Premier League. This is the truth... They certainly haven't learnt their lesson on that front... There hardly was money to spend we are lead to believe, but there wasn't a penny invested into our CD Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Big Vince 318 Posted November 22, 2019 3 hours ago, Feedthewolf said: It's like shooting fish in a barrel, isn't it? How surprising that he didn't deign to reply... I fail to see how the example of the boy Allcock absolves the Socialists of all the mistakes they have repeated, especially in defence, over a 23 year period. Of course, ultimately, it is supporters who are to blame because they want football to be played the "Norwich Way" which has always had scant regard for defending. Blame John Bond. Managers like to play how they themselves once played which in his case was a player who couldn't tackle, couldn't head, but could deliver the sweetest ball on a sixpence. These are the sort of players Norwich fans like, hence Crook et al. It is ironic you point to those seasons in the mid-1960s. Well, Norwich were building solid foundations that led to promotion under Saunders in 1972 with Keelan, Stringer and Forbes in the 3 key defensive positions. Watling, Saunders, Forbes and Stringer were all on the same wavelength. The Socialists have been on an entirely different wavelength, prompted by a fan base that has the wrong footballing philosophy. Verdict (yet again): Supporters get board they deserve. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dylanisabaddog 4,907 Posted November 22, 2019 21 hours ago, keelansgrandad said: Terry Anderson and John Deehan too. So there must have been a Suffolk Socialist Time Machine involved.... It got so bad once that we even took Bobby bell on loan! I remember Ron Saunders putting Ted Payne up front. I think he was trying to make a point rather than any tactic. Most bizarre game I have ever seen. Lost 3-2 and 4 or maybe all 5 were own goals. Thanks for reminding me that a somewhat bewildered Ted Payne spent the last 15 minutes playing up front. For those of you who never saw Ted he was a bit like Danny Mills but far less talented. But to be fair he was at least a decent bloke.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CANARYKING 637 Posted November 22, 2019 1 hour ago, Big Vince said: I fail to see how the example of the boy Allcock absolves the Socialists of all the mistakes they have repeated, especially in defence, over a 23 year period. Of course, ultimately, it is supporters who are to blame because they want football to be played the "Norwich Way" which has always had scant regard for defending. Blame John Bond. Managers like to play how they themselves once played which in his case was a player who couldn't tackle, couldn't head, but could deliver the sweetest ball on a sixpence. These are the sort of players Norwich fans like, hence Crook et al. It is ironic you point to those seasons in the mid-1960s. Well, Norwich were building solid foundations that led to promotion under Saunders in 1972 with Keelan, Stringer and Forbes in the 3 key defensive positions. Watling, Saunders, Forbes and Stringer were all on the same wavelength. The Socialists have been on an entirely different wavelength, prompted by a fan base that has the wrong footballing philosophy. Verdict (yet again): Supporters get board they deserve. Give it a rest , we know your opinion, I, like the rest of us will not read any of your posts again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites