Feedthewolf 4,846 Posted November 9, 2019 Assuming that everyone bar Klose is available after the break, what would your starting XI be? I'd go with: Krul Aarons Godfrey Zimmermann Lewis Amadou Vrancic Buendia Cantwell Hernandez Pukki Subs: Fahrmann, Byram, Tettey, Trybull, McLean, Stiepermann, Drmic. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darth Vadis 151 Posted November 9, 2019 As above but Byram in for Aarons. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Peanuts 150 Posted November 9, 2019 Krul Aarons Godfrey Zimmermann Lewis Amadou Leitner Buendia Stiepermann Cantwell Pukki  Hernandez to come off the bench. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Crafty Canary 495 Posted November 10, 2019 Krul Aarons Godfrey Zimmerman Lewis Tettey Amadou Vrancic Buendia Hernandez Pukki Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Monty13 2,233 Posted November 10, 2019 17 hours ago, Feedthewolf said: Assuming that everyone bar Klose is available after the break, what would your starting XI be? I'd go with: Krul Aarons Godfrey Zimmermann Lewis Amadou Vrancic Buendia Cantwell Hernandez Pukki Subs: Fahrmann, Byram, Tettey, Trybull, McLean, Stiepermann, Drmic. I’d probably swap Stiepermann for Cantwell as otherwise the front five feels too lightweight IMO. Otherwise good and I’m just going to be hopeful Zimmerman is fit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Making Plans 936 Posted November 10, 2019 A slightly different view Krul Byram Godfrey Zimmermann Lewis Trybull Vrancic Aarons Stiepermann Hernandez Pukki Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr Greenthumb 749 Posted November 10, 2019 18 hours ago, Feedthewolf said: Assuming that everyone bar Klose is available after the break, what would your starting XI be? I'd go with: Krul Aarons Godfrey Zimmermann Lewis Amadou Vrancic Buendia Cantwell Hernandez Pukki Subs: Fahrmann, Byram, Tettey, Trybull, McLean, Stiepermann, Drmic. Would be a dream, but let’s face it, it will probably be the same dross that has started the last two games Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
paddycanary 539 Posted November 10, 2019 I understood that it'll be another month, possibly longer before Zimm is fit to start a game. Not forgetting he was probably brought in a bit too early when he got crocked by Haller. Is Hanley not due back first? I wonder will DF pair Tettey & Amadou together to help tighten up around the middle? Or will he pick one of Vrancic, McLean, Leitner or Trybull alongside Tettey/Amadou? Or perhaps three CMs? Are Aarons & Lewis both certainties to start? What about Buendia? Should Cantwell get another opportunity from the start? How long until Drmic is back? Lots of question marks currently. It's good to have options again but the poor form makes picking the team a more difficult job. What about: Krul Aarons   Hanley   Godfrey   Lewis Tettey   Amadou   Vrancic Stiepermann   Hernandez Pukki  Vrancic in a roving role, linking the play, tracking runners, giving an outlet, on set-pieces & picking the passes. Something different from Emi so far. Tettey & Amadou screening & covering for the full backs when they venture across the halfway line. Buendia, Cantwell, McLean, Trybull, Byram, Leitner, Idah, Srbeny (Roberts?) giving various options off the bench. I do think that it might help to get Byram into the team somehow, as suggested above. He must have expected more game-time  Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GJL Mid-Norfolk Canary 1,749 Posted November 10, 2019 Interesting that nobody (rightly) has McLean in their team .......if Farke does it again, even after having a few more options available ,then he has to be called into question. My team... ...................Krul............ Byram..Zimmerman..Godfrey..Lewis ..............Amadou..Trybull....... ....Buendia....Vrancic.....Hernandez ..................Pukki............... Fahrmann..Aarons..Hanley..Tettey..Leitner..Cantwell..Steipermann 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
paddycanary 539 Posted November 10, 2019 Would be a nice boost if Zimmermann is fit & available to start. I wonder how Buendia will react after Friday's game & post-match comments - could be crucial to his future career here. Adversity reveals leaders. Benching him would allow Vrancic to start without over-exposing the back four. Or he could be moved central at Marco's expense. Would Hernandez be better utilised as an impact sub away from home - keep it tight for the first 60 mins? If Aarons & Byram both start, would it relieve the forward group from some of their more defensive duties? Lots to ponder after Watford. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jpootz 15 Posted November 10, 2019 Krul Aarons Zimmerman Godfrey Lewis Amadou Vrancic Roberts Buendia Hernandez Pukki Time to try Buendia in the Number 10 role behind Pukki. The problem I think with playing him out wide is that he isn’t an out and out wide player and always wants to come into the middle with the ball which then leaves a whole load of space on the right hand side for the opposition to exploit if he loses possession thus leaving Aarons exposed. Or as Making Plans suggested you could play Byram at right back with Aarons ahead of him to give us more solidity. We’ve also got to improve our pressing game. Opposition teams do it much more aggressively and effectively than us which ultimately nullifies our style. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Big O 225 Posted November 10, 2019 I personally think we need to change up a little from our 4-2-3-1 as teams have worked us out and picking it off, I would revert more to the Liverpool/Leicester 4-3-3 and make sure our midfield not wide open at any stage. This might also play to getting Buendia up the pitch and able to drift in without exposing Aaron’s so much. Krul aarons, Zimmerman, Godfrey, Lewis amadou vrancic/leitner, trybull buendia, Pukki, Hernandez    Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
paddycanary 539 Posted November 10, 2019 exposing Aaron's what? (apologies, couldn't resist!) 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Capt. Pants 4,234 Posted November 10, 2019 Too early for Zimmerman I suspect. If Amadou is fully fit then I expect him to replace Tettey at centre half. Other than that I think will Farke will stick with the tried and tested team. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HertsCanary93 222 Posted November 10, 2019 Krul Byram Godfrey Amadou Lewis Tettey Vrancic Roberts Cantwell Hernandez Pukki We need to change the team, the current lineup is not scoring goals. Unfortunately there is not much we can do at the back due to injuries and poor depth. Buendia needs to be dropped and given the chance to show what he can do from the bench. I thought Roberts looked useful in pre season and should be given a chance to show what he can do. Onel aside, the players picked in front of him have shown nothing for seven games. Roberts deserves a shot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NCFC198 2 Posted November 10, 2019                 Krul        Hanley Godfrey Zimmermann Aarons                       Lewis            Tettey  Amadou Buendia             Hernamdez             Pukki 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
keelansgrandad 6,679 Posted November 10, 2019 Krul Aarons Zimmerman Godfrey Lewis Amadou Vrancic Roberts Buendia Hernandez Pukki Time to try Buendia in the Number 10 role behind Pukki. The problem I think with playing him out wide is that he isn’t an out and out wide player and always wants to come into the middle with the ball which then leaves a whole load of space on the right hand side for the opposition to exploit if he loses possession thus leaving Aarons exposed. Or as Making Plans suggested you could play Byram at right back with Aarons ahead of him to give us more solidity. We’ve also got to improve our pressing game. Opposition teams do it much more aggressively and effectively than us which ultimately nullifies our style. I have put the same lineup on a different post. Put our skill in the skill areas. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yellow Green Army 237 Posted November 10, 2019 Krul Byram Zimmermann Godfrey Aarons Amadou Vrancic Lewis Cantwell Pukki Hernandez Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Making Plans 936 Posted November 10, 2019 (edited) Rather than who should be in the team, lets look at it from who shouldn't be in the team. For me, based on performances over the last 5 or 6 games you cannot possibly pick Cantwell, Buendia, McLean, Leitner, Drmic, or Srbeny who are either (a) desperately out of form/touch/confidence, (b) ineffective, (c) simply not good enough or in the case of Drmic & Srbeny (d) all 3. The case for Stiepermann is 50/50. He hasn't been great but he's not been anywhere near as bad as Cantwell, Buendia, McLean or Leitner and at least he's had a few shots at goal. Despite recent heroics, I think Tettey is not up to several games on the bounce. Hanley might be fit but I'm not sure that he is an improvement on what we've tried thus far. On the plus side, Byram has looked more than capable and Roberts is an unknown quantity so they must come into the reckoning. So that leaves us with, in no particular order, Krul, Aarons, Lewis, Byram, Zimmerman, Godfrey, Amadou, Trybull, Pukki, Hernandez, Stiepermann, Roberts, Vrancic. We have played 12 games, won 2 of them and every week we get worse. We have not scored a meaningful goal for 7 games on the trot. You cannot keep playing the same players week after week and accept the same result with no sign of improvement week after week, without being brave enough to take a gamble and try something different. If it doesn't work out and we lose then it's no different to what we have been doing anyway. Edited November 10, 2019 by Making Plans 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Disco Dales Jockstrap 1,891 Posted November 10, 2019 Krul Byram Zimmerman Godfrey Lewis Amadou Tettey Buendia Stiepermann Hernandez Pukki I've gone for a quite physical team compared to most with Amadou,Tettey and Stiepermann all in. A porous midfield has been a major issue this year - we need to stop the rot and become more solid to give us something to build on in games or what little confidence we have left will be gone long before January comes around. I'd be open to trying Drmic in Stiepermann's position if he's fit. OTBC Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carn 71 Posted November 11, 2019 Am I crazy or could we not try Byram at RB with Aarons playing further up the pitch? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wacky Waving Inflatable Arm Flailing Tube Man 3,820 Posted November 11, 2019 (edited) I think it's too early for Zimmermann, no? I'm sure I read, or at least got the gist, that he won't be playing in the Everton game, but may feature a week or two later. Anyway, I'm starting to think we need a change of system because what we're doing now isn't working. I think an extra man in defence would give us more security to allow the full backs the freedom to go forward and relieve the pressure on them defensively. Godfrey may also benefit from having another partner and may also have more licence to drive forward, which he's pretty good at. So all in all, I'd be tempted by the following:                Krul    Amadou   Hanley   Godfrey Aarons                      Lewis         Tettey      Vrancic     Buendia           Hernandez               Pukki  But with Zimmermann in Hanley's place if he's fit. Edited November 11, 2019 by Wacky Waving Inflatable Arm Flailing Tube Man 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GJL Mid-Norfolk Canary 1,749 Posted November 11, 2019 Lots of diffrerent formations and permutations here....is there any combination that could work?...or is it merely rearranging the deckchairs on the titanic? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wacky Waving Inflatable Arm Flailing Tube Man 3,820 Posted November 11, 2019 19 minutes ago, GJL Mid-Norfolk Canary said: Lots of diffrerent formations and permutations here....is there any combination that could work?...or is it merely rearranging the deckchairs on the titanic? I think if you combine the back three, two wing backs, central midfield three and then the three behind a front two we might have a chance. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CDMullins 436 Posted November 11, 2019 18 hours ago, Making Plans said: A slightly different view Krul Byram Godfrey Zimmermann Lewis Trybull Vrancic Aarons Stiepermann Hernandez Pukki I've been hoping for this. Although not particularly skillful Max almost always beats the defender and since we have Byram to cover, I'd give it a go. Id then push Buendia to 10. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
glory.win or die. 270 Posted November 11, 2019            Krul Byram  Godfrey zimmerman lewis        Tettey amadou    Hernandez vrancic buendia            Pukki Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jaberry2 550 Posted November 11, 2019 Krul Byram Godfrey Zimmerman Lewis Amadou Leitner Hernadez Steiperman Buendia Pukki Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lincsy88 95 Posted November 11, 2019 Krul Byram, Godfrey, Hanley (if Zimbo not fit) Lewis Amadou Leitner Aarons Cantwell Hernandez Pukki Subs: Fahrmann, Zimmermann, Trybull, Buendia, Drmic, Roberts, Vrancic.  Buendia needs to know he is dropable and this might sort his attitude out and give him a kick up the bum to improve. Aarons and Byram gives us a bit more defensive solidity and we can finally see Amadou in his preferred position. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
smooth 114 Posted November 11, 2019 Well if Hanley is ahead of Zimmerman in regard to availability I would play               Krul      Byram, Hanley, Godfrey Aarons                  Lewis      Amadou, Leitner, Tettey Buendia                Hernandez             Pukki If zimbo is getting fit get him practising in this set up and then replace Hanley for the next game. Have Stieps ready to change the midfield if Pukki is isolated or maybe Vrancic in that further foward position/ in replace of Leitner. But be aware that Leitner can move us from the back third of the pitch with composure and we need that now. --- Lets be hard to beat early and allow these fullbacks forward to create chances that we know we can. Byram and Godfrey have pace to cover with Amadou and Tettey hopefully bullying the midfield may mean Leitner has a bit more time. The midfield then is much tougher with two DMs in there and the attacking players who excelled last season have a bit more of a free licence to move forward It is a change in formation but we know we need cover at the back and we also need to play to our strengths, well this allows our full backs to play wide with creative midfielders and Pukki ready to pounce. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
smooth 114 Posted November 11, 2019 20 minutes ago, smooth said: Well if Hanley is ahead of Zimmerman in regard to availability I would play               Krul      Byram, Hanley, Godfrey Aarons                  Lewis      Amadou, Leitner, Tettey Buendia                Hernandez             Pukki If zimbo is getting fit get him practising in this set up and then replace Hanley for the next game. Have Stieps ready to change the midfield if Pukki is isolated or maybe Vrancic in that further foward position/ in replace of Leitner. But be aware that Leitner can move us from the back third of the pitch with composure and we need that now. --- Lets be hard to beat early and allow these fullbacks forward to create chances that we know we can. Byram and Godfrey have pace to cover with Amadou and Tettey hopefully bullying the midfield may mean Leitner has a bit more time. The midfield then is much tougher with two DMs in there and the attacking players who excelled last season have a bit more of a free licence to move forward It is a change in formation but we know we need cover at the back and we also need to play to our strengths, well this allows our full backs to play wide with creative midfielders and Pukki ready to pounce. Damn 12 players, well tettey needs to come out as we need cover at the back so our fullbacks can go forward Share this post Link to post Share on other sites