Cliff the Canary 63 Posted November 2, 2019 24 minutes ago, Wacky Waving Inflatable Arm Flailing Tube Man said: She's also told Buendia, Leitner, Stiepermann etc. to not be good enough this season. No! But if the club had invested in 2 or 3 EPL quality players (not journeymen a la Naismith), then perhaps that would of helped those players named above, take the step up! But the club can’t invest cause we’re self sustainable with an ownership model that can’t put any capital in’ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TeemuVanBasten 3,327 Posted November 2, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, Canary Wundaboy said: I don’t think you can apportion too much blame to Farke. A combination of no money and injuries means our options are so limited, it’s not like we have great players sat on the bench unused. It’s the story of Norwich. We have no money. We have a great Championship season, we get promoted. We don’t have money to compete in the PL. We get relegated. Some fans say they prefer the Championship because we can compete, but the reality is that if we had more money we could compete in the PL. I think this is our level as long as Delia is in charge, I can’t ever see us becoming an established PL side with our self-sustaining model. The game has just changed too much. We had more than £750k to spend though didn't we. We'd decided we were going to get relegated before a ball was kicked and decided not to invest any of the TV revenue into the squad. Which makes 'premium memberships' a bit of a kick in the teeth. Edited November 2, 2019 by TeemuVanBasten 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
glory.win or die. 270 Posted November 2, 2019 I cant blame Delia or Farke , both have achieved miracles with Norwich, and to be fair Delia has overseen 3 promotions to the prem, how many clubs would love to have done that? The truth is, this is the best we can expect, in fact, this is consistently more than we should expect given our lack of money. The prem has seen more and more investment, which makes it harder and harder to compete every year, we are already seeing investment spread to the championship, my worry is how long until we can no longer compete there too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jobsworth Canary 168 Posted November 2, 2019 The strategy this season has been an unmitigated disaster, yet again the Cook gets it spectacularly wrong We really deserve much much better than their ownership 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Canary Wundaboy 1,349 Posted November 2, 2019 8 minutes ago, glory.win or die. said: The prem has seen more and more investment, which makes it harder and harder to compete every year, we are already seeing investment spread to the championship, my worry is how long until we can no longer compete there too. It’s got to be a concern. Silly money being spent in the Champs now, promotion is most definitely not a forgone conclusion if we go down, it’s just going to get harder and harder to get promoted to the EPL the more years that pass. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SouthOfTheRiver 1 Posted November 2, 2019 (edited) 40 minutes ago, Canary Wundaboy said: it’s just going to get harder and harder to get promoted to the EPL the more years that pass. I think evidence suggests otherwise, three always have to go down and it's not that easy to get back. Spending in Championship doesn't guarantee promotion. Its all about psychology, its the hardest league in the world. Edited November 2, 2019 by SouthOfTheRiver Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
A Load of Squit 5,065 Posted November 3, 2019 7 hours ago, Jobsworth Canary said: We really deserve much much better than their ownership No you don't. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wcorkcanary 4,314 Posted November 3, 2019 17 hours ago, Disco Dales Jockstrap said: Christ I feel depressed - no beer in the fridge either. F3ck a duck. OTBC Stuffing a Seagull would have been more fun. Next time maybe. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jobsworth Canary 168 Posted November 3, 2019 4 hours ago, A Load of Squit said: No you don't. Yes I do Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nutty nigel 7,351 Posted November 3, 2019 3 hours ago, Jobsworth Canary said: Yes I do What makes you think you do? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wcorkcanary 4,314 Posted November 3, 2019 23 minutes ago, nutty nigel said: What makes you think you do? Asking Jobbo to think ,stopped him in his tracks....he may be some time. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jobsworth Canary 168 Posted November 3, 2019 29 minutes ago, nutty nigel said: What makes you think you do? I have high self esteem and want the very best for myself and not 3rd best but the very very best that Chinese money can buy 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nutty nigel 7,351 Posted November 3, 2019 2 minutes ago, Jobsworth Canary said: I have high self esteem and want the very best for myself and not 3rd best but the very very best that Chinese money can buy And yet you settle for frozen scampi... 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wcorkcanary 4,314 Posted November 3, 2019 9 minutes ago, Jobsworth Canary said: I have high cholesterol and blood pressure and need the very best counselling and not 3rd best but the very very best that dole money can buy. Sorted! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kenny Foggo 1,105 Posted November 3, 2019 It's clear that Delia's fan funded model can be successful in the second tier of English football but has failed every time at the top level. A bunch of people are happy with going up occasionally and then getting relegated. Those people think this is the best we can be and are happy with owners that are fans but can not provide any financial support. A bunch of people feel that given the great platform our owners have given us, it would be better to try and find owners willing to take us to the next level. Owners such as Leicester and Wolves but those people realise that it can not always be a success. Equally the fan funded model can see a club get left behind. Itswhether you think we have reached out potential or can achieve more. I find one of these models soul destroying and depressing but who knows if I am right... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Keith Scott 238 Posted December 21, 2019 Just to update you all. My thoughts have altered slightly over the last few weeks on this. Farke's continual mistakes week after week have now seen the percentages change to a 50/50 split. As with all of our recent prem campaigns this is a shambles from top to bottom. Anyway, all the best, Keith. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sonyc 5,446 Posted December 21, 2019 I think Keith you must be a person who really loves his life. I always get a sense that you enjoy posting after a loss. Often your points are made without a certain disappointment. Either it's this or you are a wind up merchant. Either way, to have such a strong sense of yourself takes a lot of people a long while to obtain or accept. It's quite admirable really. And without analysing further for fear you think I'm being disingenuous, I generally agree in part with your points. But, in fairness to Farke and this team, you have to sometimes fail before you are successful. That has been my own personal story. And you never stop learning. It's what life is about. Let's hope the team can learn but after today I fear we have run out of time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wacky Waving Inflatable Arm Flailing Tube Man 3,703 Posted December 21, 2019 If you click on Keith's profile, all of his posts in the last couple of months have been in the immediate aftermath (within three days) of defeats. I'm guessing it will be a similar pattern if you go back further. If he's genuinely a Norwich fan, then what enjoyment does this person get from following football, or Norwich City in general? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
glory.win or die. 270 Posted December 21, 2019 I will tell you when you say what proportion of credit you give each for getting us to the prem against the odds despite having to sell our best players 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jobsworth Canary 168 Posted December 21, 2019 44 minutes ago, Keith Scott said: Just to update you all. My thoughts have altered slightly over the last few weeks on this. Farke's continual mistakes week after week have now seen the percentages change to a 50/50 split. As with all of our recent prem campaigns this is a shambles from top to bottom. Anyway, all the best, Keith. Always measured response can’t fault your logic again Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
C.I.D 298 Posted December 21, 2019 12 minutes ago, Jobsworth Canary said: Always measured response can’t fault your logic again Aha,I get it now ...........you and Keith Scott are one and the same person ...............as well as being Waveney's love child 🤣 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardhouse44 261 Posted December 21, 2019 Well it’s Farke’s fault that we’re marking gaping big empty spaces as an unchallenged player can stand rooted to the spot and header the ball in. And it Farke’s fault that we only ever make late reactive substitutions rather than like other team who make earlier proactive ones. The guys not some sort of unquestionable deity. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Keith Scott 238 Posted December 26, 2019 On 02/11/2019 at 18:36, Jim Smith said: well she is the one who won't countenance selling the club so to that extent it clearly is her fault. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Keith Scott 238 Posted December 26, 2019 Looking for percentages here guys. Personally i'm sticking with a 50/50 split. For now.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr Greenthumb 742 Posted December 26, 2019 12 minutes ago, Keith Scott said: Looking for percentages here guys. Personally i'm sticking with a 50/50 split. For now.... Delia is the sole cause of this, we needed to build on last season, instead, she endured she could pay the wages for a few years instead. Selfish nature, from a skint owner Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wacky Waving Inflatable Arm Flailing Tube Man 3,703 Posted December 26, 2019 On 21/12/2019 at 18:38, Wacky Waving Inflatable Arm Flailing Tube Man said: If you click on Keith's profile, all of his posts in the last couple of months have been in the immediate aftermath (within three days) of defeats. I'm guessing it will be a similar pattern if you go back further. If he's genuinely a Norwich fan, then what enjoyment does this person get from following football, or Norwich City in general? . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
City 2nd 191 Posted December 26, 2019 On 02/11/2019 at 22:33, glory.win or die. said: I cant blame Delia or Farke , both have achieved miracles with Norwich, and to be fair Delia has overseen 3 promotions to the prem, how many clubs would love to have done that? The truth is, this is the best we can expect, in fact, this is consistently more than we should expect given our lack of money. The prem has seen more and more investment, which makes it harder and harder to compete every year, we are already seeing investment spread to the championship, my worry is how long until we can no longer compete there too. And 3 or more relegations! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HertsCanary93 222 Posted December 26, 2019 Are we still blaming injuries? We've had the bulk of our squad available for a while now and have not improved at all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Midlands Yellow 3,820 Posted December 26, 2019 We all know that’s it now . Not going to sting as much as previous relegations when they went to the wire. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Feedthewolf 4,786 Posted December 26, 2019 9 minutes ago, HertsCanary93 said: Are we still blaming injuries? We've had the bulk of our squad available for a while now and have not improved at all. I'd say we've definitely improved. I know we've not been performing consistently, or taking our chances, but we don't behave like a team that's buried already and bereft of confidence. I think there's every chance we'll start picking up results that match the performances. I doubt it'll be enough to keep us up, but I'd rather go down playing like this than having spaffed £100m on players like Fulham or playing ugly, direct football. We've effectively got 19 free shots, might as well try to enjoy them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites