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Somewhat unusually, YR was a tad late rising from the sack this morning (but, he offers in defence, a 01.15 arrival home from taxi duties!!). Frantically pressing the 'ON' button of the new, small screen LG model on the dining room chest of drawers whilst starting to consume his normal, cholesterol lowering breakfast, he was greeted with the sight of a rampant, bold, attacking Brighton team taking on one of the 'big boys'. 

One Aaron Connolly made his league debut and how brilliant the boy was. I noted that Potter played TWO up front. How strange. Most posters on this message board fall for the trendy propaganda that ..............' no-one does that these days', 'its old fashioned', 'not how modern football works''.

Meanwhile, here in 'Farke Land', Teemu cuts an increasingly overworked, lonely and isolated figure bereft of proper support. Cantwell, Stieperman and Buendia (whilst possessors of genuine quality in some instances) tend to infuriate with their insistence on 'over playing' and not being prepared to 'put their foot through the ball'.

Adam Idah was promoted to the first team squad in the summer with a new contact and a blaze of publicity. I have not seen him play but am told he has 'pace to burn' (perhaps more seasoned  observers can confirm or otherwise). So far the boy has one solitary League Cup appearance to his name and remains unused in the league. 

That stirring victory over Man City seems a lifetime ago now with 9 goals conceded and just 1 scored in a sad run of three successive defeats. Despite what most think, Farke DOES have attacking options (Drmic, Srbeny and Idah). Of course whether any of these three have the quality is unknown as (to varying degrees) none has been given any real opportunity. I don't consider 5 minutes here, 3 minutes there or even 10 minutes a 'decent' opportunity! Farke remains annoyingly stubborn (a trait I have long since mentioned but only to be castigated by all and sundry on this board). Undeniably the 'sands are now shifting' as the harsh realities kick in and winter approaches. I will once again make the trip to the fine Amex Stadium on November 2nd in anticipation. Last time I witnessed a most appalling 5-0 defeat with A Neil in charge. One can only pray that a repeat is not looming.  Back to the title of this post - Herr Farke now needs to be bold and start using his squad in attacking areas. Step forward AD.       

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26 minutes ago, Wacky Waving Inflatable Arm Flailing Tube Man said:

Idah starts with an I, not a D 😉

Spot on - apologies to all. That said, do you have any other observation on the post??  

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1 hour ago, yellowrider120 said:

Spot on - apologies to all. That said, do you have any other observation on the post??  

Yep, was the post written by a friend or partner? Why else would it be written in the 3rd person, wcorkcanary asks himself.😕

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11 minutes ago, wcorkcanary said:

Yep, was the post written by a friend or partner? Why else would it be written in the 3rd person, wcorkcanary asks himself.😕

Just my own, somewhat quirky style! 

Interesting that of nearly 300 views not one single poster has made any contributions to the main thrusts of my arguments. One can only suppose that you're all meekly content with the 'rabbit in the headlights' stance of our manager? I actually couldn't care less  if we win games or not IF the manager has been bold, recognized when things need changing and actually does something about it.

Football is no different to any other business. When things start to go wrong you need to respond and TRY to change what is happening. Farke has to be dragged almost kicking and screaming in that direction.   

Quite rightly the boy Farke has accumulated a significant amount of 'credit in the bank'. However, we have now played EIGHT matches and he shows no sign of adopting a more flexible and 'positive' (i.e mixing up our style and throwing on subs much sooner than he does) approach. It would be a great tragedy if the natives were to 'turn' but (worryingly) I can see that happening.   

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Why do you set yourself up against the whole board and then expect a reasoned debate. We don't fall for the propaganda you claim we do. You're not some kind of great leader with all and sundry against him. We are not meekly content with anything. And I doubt we see the manager as a rabbit in the headlights.

If you want a contribution - what about an opinion that the injuries have made a difference. An idea that perhaps playing Tettey and McLean gave us much more protection than Leitner and McLean. Not having 2 walking wounded in the back four might also have helped.

I have a observation through reading your posts that you don't like the way we play. You didn't like it early last season and certainly not the season before. I think you tolerated it when we were winning because it would have been churlish not to.

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No idea of Idah is good enough or not. Wouldn’t be too difficult to accommodate a front two though - Stiepermann has been a bit wasteful and I’ve never been convinced that technically he’s good enough for the prem. Switch him out for a second striker, two wingers/attacking midfielders, two holding midfielders.

I’ve said on another thread just now that I think setting up more akin to how we did against Man City could be a good idea - slightly more solid, slightly more counter attacking with 6 outfield players largely holding their position. We can still play it out nicely, but Idah might suit that style if he is quick. Pukki, Idah, Cantwell on the break, with Buendia being the link between the holding midfielders and the attack could work.

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4 hours ago, nutty nigel said:

Why do you set yourself up against the whole board and then expect a reasoned debate. We don't fall for the propaganda you claim we do. You're not some kind of great leader with all and sundry against him. We are not meekly content with anything. And I doubt we see the manager as a rabbit in the headlights.

If you want a contribution - what about an opinion that the injuries have made a difference. An idea that perhaps playing Tettey and McLean gave us much more protection than Leitner and McLean. Not having 2 walking wounded in the back four might also have helped.

I have a observation through reading your posts that you don't like the way we play. You didn't like it early last season and certainly not the season before. I think you tolerated it when we were winning because it would have been churlish not to.

Wow - must be the longest post you've ever written Nutty. Do I detect a note of irritability in there? Who would have thought it (to coin a phrase).

1. Farke sat almost motionless on the bench for pretty much all the second half. At least one substitution should have been made at half time but (predictably) it did'nt happen. When they did happen, the game was long gone. I think an increasing number of fans are starting to think that despite the glories of last season, Farke IS a 'rabbit in the headlights' . Did you go to West Ham? Perhaps you could clarify why Farke waited 22 minutes before introducing Drmic (from the time they scored their second). 

2. Injuries - Of course they have made a difference, particularly in restricting the option to play either Tettey or Amadou in defensive midfield role. The Hernandez injury has probably been the most destabilising as it robs us of genuine pace (but perhaps Adam Idah could provide that outlet?). that said, we have stopped scoring goals yet Roberts, Drmic, Srbeny and Idah remain dreadfully under used. I assume even you would acknowledge that? Perhaps not as that would imply a degree of constructive criticism of Farke which in Nutty world is tantamount to treason I'd suggest!

3. Our style of play - again, I think you simply don't actually READ what I post. Farke inherited a poison chalice that's undeniable but few would deny that for much of his first season the football was slow, laboured and boringly possession based. After Pukkis somewhat fortunate winner off his chest at QPR, last season took off and the technical nature of the football we produced was exhilarating on many occasions. Was it the best 'football' I've seen by any Norwich side (since 1967 in my case)? Probably Yes but it's so easy to forget what earlier sides were actually like. Were we the best Norwich 'team' I've ever seen since that year? No - in my opinion the 1992 - 1994 team still top the lot but, hey, just my opinion. Where have I ever said..............'I don't like the way we play'??

When it does come off then it looks fantastic but I say once again that the 'possession' habit is done to death as is the annoying habit of players like Buendia who spurn clear shooting opportunities and try and dribble past yet more opponents only to loose the ball repeatedly.  Sometimes you do need to 'mix it up a bit' and throw a 'curve ball'to the opposition and that could be by whipping crosses in to TWO centre forwards, going a bit more 'direct' etc. I repeat, any business that does not adapt when things are going wrong will ultimately fail.   

Farke is a possession based, pragmatic coach who seems to take it almost as an admission of failure to change the team or bring on subs. That management style is buried deep in his DNA. If he uses the next two weeks to realise he needs to make tweaks and to be more adventurous and decisive with his substitutions and style of play then great. Is that too much to ask?         

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I stop taking posts seriously when the poster starts to compare football with “any other business” 

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The day I post through irritability will be the day I stop posting. I also like the criticism that I usually use few words. Most people say the opposite.

March 11th 1967 was my first game. Do you remember it being like this?

http://www.eafa.org.uk/catalogue/923

Time plays tricks...

I don't criticise you for having an opinion. But this continual garbage that your opinion has to be measured against disparaging distorted views you have of this community is a bit far fetched and a lot disrespectful.

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7 hours ago, yellowrider120 said:

Just my own, somewhat quirky style! 

Interesting that of nearly 300 views not one single poster has made any contributions to the main thrusts of my arguments. One can only suppose that you're all meekly content with the 'rabbit in the headlights' stance of our manager? I actually couldn't care less  if we win games or not IF the manager has been bold, recognized when things need changing and actually does something about it.

Football is no different to any other business. When things start to go wrong you need to respond and TRY to change what is happening. Farke has to be dragged almost kicking and screaming in that direction.   

Quite rightly the boy Farke has accumulated a significant amount of 'credit in the bank'. However, we have now played EIGHT matches and he shows no sign of adopting a more flexible and 'positive' (i.e mixing up our style and throwing on subs much sooner than he does) approach. It would be a great tragedy if the natives were to 'turn' but (worryingly) I can see that happening.   

Interesting to you maybe...

 

Could I humbly suggest if you want a genuine debate on your views:

 

- Not referring to yourself in the third person, and DEFINITELY not using the phrase “the boy”. I’m going to contradict my second point below but I imagine the majority of readers of this board immediately think of “Big” Vince when they read this, who had to be the most irritating and yet boring troll on here.

- Not making assumptions about what the rest of us are thinking (“One can only suppose”, “I assume even you would acknowledge that?”).

- Don’t tell us you have a quirky style. We’ll make up our own minds what your style is, and personally, I would choose arrogant.

 

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Pukki is the key to our survival.

 Our success last season was built around Pukki playing as a single striker. I’m not sure the runs he makes and the positions he gets into would be helped by having another striker alongside him.

I haven’t a clue what the stats are but Pukki seems to be the ‘ least caught offside ‘ striker ever to wear the Norwich shirt, which is testament to his effectiveness as a single striker.

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Guys apologies. I've not read any of this exempt the title and felt the uncontrollable urge to post these. Keep on trucking City.

 

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21 hours ago, Nuff Said said:

Interesting to you maybe...

 

Could I humbly suggest if you want a genuine debate on your views:

 

- Not referring to yourself in the third person, and DEFINITELY not using the phrase “the boy”. I’m going to contradict my second point below but I imagine the majority of readers of this board immediately think of “Big” Vince when they read this, who had to be the most irritating and yet boring troll on here.

- Not making assumptions about what the rest of us are thinking (“One can only suppose”, “I assume even you would acknowledge that?”).

- Don’t tell us you have a quirky style. We’ll make up our own minds what your style is, and personally, I would choose arrogant.

 

How about actually commenting on the points I raised instead of launching in with personal accusations.  I have been labelled many things but I can 100% assure you that 'arrogant' is not one of them! You unfortunately confuse a 'forthright' style with 'arrogance'. Not sure if you were around in the Worthy era but as that was starting to fall apart there were posters calling on the club to remove said person from his role. At a Club AGM one 'senior' fan who was a leading member of a supporters group / association proudly stood up and castigated the critics by saying...........'I will tell Nigel when it's time for him to go'. That, my friend, is arrogance and a breathtaking example at that.I'm sure Tilly will confirm the accuracy of my recollections. 

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On 06/10/2019 at 19:45, nutty nigel said:

The day I post through irritability will be the day I stop posting. I also like the criticism that I usually use few words. Most people say the opposite.

March 11th 1967 was my first game. Do you remember it being like this?

http://www.eafa.org.uk/catalogue/923

Time plays tricks...

I don't criticise you for having an opinion. But this continual garbage that your opinion has to be measured against disparaging distorted views you have of this community is a bit far fetched and a lot disrespectful.

Evening Nigel!

Thanks for the link and what an insight into the football of 1967 that was! 41,000 that day so I am led to believe. That was just before I started to attend THP ('The Holy Place'). Early matches were with my Dad sitting in Block E of the old wooden main stand. From about 1968-1975 it was either standing in The Barclay, Barclay - South Stand corner or middle of the South Stand. After 1975 (when the South Stand was seated) I went back to The Barclay until 1981 when I migrated to the lower tier of the 'Reeves Stand'. Had a ten year secondment there until that too was seated and we bought season tickets in the middle of the South Stand where we can be found to this day. And yourself?

The link is certainly well worth a separate post in itself. Can I leave it to you to organise? Thank you.     

I must admit (in all seriousness) to being bemused by your final sentence. That said, YR bears no grudges and is prepared to make you the following offer in order we may compare notes without boring the rest of the posters perhaps! If you would like to message me or contact me on 07738 070474, I am inviting you to a coffee, lunchtime drink or meal to discuss all things City. You can decide the venue. I will bear 100% of the cost.  Perhaps your mate Tilly would be up for it? I knew him from SCG days at THP and it would be good to meet up again. He can pay for himself though!

Over to you.      

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21 minutes ago, hogesar said:

Why has Big Vince made a second account?

Seems like an attempt to pick up blokes by the looks of it

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2 hours ago, yellowrider120 said:

Evening Nigel!

Thanks for the link and what an insight into the football of 1967 that was! 41,000 that day so I am led to believe. That was just before I started to attend THP ('The Holy Place'). Early matches were with my Dad sitting in Block E of the old wooden main stand. From about 1968-1975 it was either standing in The Barclay, Barclay - South Stand corner or middle of the South Stand. After 1975 (when the South Stand was seated) I went back to The Barclay until 1981 when I migrated to the lower tier of the 'Reeves Stand'. Had a ten year secondment there until that too was seated and we bought season tickets in the middle of the South Stand where we can be found to this day. And yourself?

The link is certainly well worth a separate post in itself. Can I leave it to you to organise? Thank you.     

I must admit (in all seriousness) to being bemused by your final sentence. That said, YR bears no grudges and is prepared to make you the following offer in order we may compare notes without boring the rest of the posters perhaps! If you would like to message me or contact me on 07738 070474, I am inviting you to a coffee, lunchtime drink or meal to discuss all things City. You can decide the venue. I will bear 100% of the cost.  Perhaps your mate Tilly would be up for it? I knew him from SCG days at THP and it would be good to meet up again. He can pay for himself though!

Over to you.      

The link has been posted many times. I too have moved around the stadium but am back at the front of the South Stand where I was for that 1967 Sheff Wed game.

Thanks for the invite, you should have a text🙃

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Every season there's a scapegoat, this season it's been Hanley, until injury, last season it was Cantwell and before that Martin.

There's also the saviour, that player that for some reason unknown to the expert fans, the deluded manger who only gets to see them every single day in training, just won't bow to the collective wisdom of the fans.  In recent years we've had Luciano Becchio and Kyle Lafferty who would bang in the goals if only given the chance.  It looks like we have a new unicorn this season,  it's Adam Idha! 

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17 hours ago, JF said:

Seems like an attempt to pick up blokes by the looks of it

Do you think Adam Idah could be our Aaron Connolly then?

Oh - by the way - we may have a threesome already booked so you may have to watch if you don't mind. 

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21 hours ago, yellowrider120 said:

 At a Club AGM one 'senior' fan who was a leading member of a supporters group / association proudly stood up and castigated the critics by saying...........'I will tell Nigel when it's time for him to go'. That, my friend, is arrogance and a breathtaking example at that.I'm sure Tilly will confirm the accuracy of my recollections. 

Ah yes the pompous Peter Wolsey but i have to say yellowrider that despite his best efforts he never held down an officers position on NCISA. I expect that yet again he will be in his usual front row seat at the AGM this year with his sermon in hand.

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20 hours ago, hogesar said:

Why has Big Vince made a second account?

Not for the first time hogesar you are wrong. I know yellowrider personally having sat with him on the SCG to which he eluded in an earlier post and he is most certainly not Big Vince.

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11 minutes ago, TIL 1010 said:

Not for the first time hogesar you are wrong. I know yellowrider personally having sat with him on the SCG to which he eluded in an earlier post and he is most certainly not Big Vince.

I have to say you're particularly good at reading humour. Jesus wept, try again.

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26 minutes ago, hogesar said:

I have to say you're particularly good at reading humour. Jesus wept, try again.

Oh yeah that post of yours read as very funny. Any further thoughts on that pint you wanted to meet me for or was that internet humour or bluster more like.

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