BobLoz3 492 Posted September 13, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Capt. Pants said: WTF are they doing in training? Shambles. Funny boy. The CB's all got injured in ACTUAL GAMES (aside from Hanley) Edited September 13, 2019 by BobLoz3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wacky Waving Inflatable Arm Flailing Tube Man 3,820 Posted September 13, 2019 2 minutes ago, KiwiScot said: Change formation or have Heise play as a CB ? Heise is a very offensive left back, so I'd say there's more chance of Lewis at centre back. Not that I'd fancy either of them there, to be honest. I don't think either of them have ever played centre back, but the fact we're even discussing it shows how bad the injury crisis is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jim Smith 2,317 Posted September 13, 2019 I don; think we can/should risk Godfrey in this game if he has a groin problem. This game is a write off. If we get a miracle result then so be it but the games coming up against Burnley, Palace and Villa are so much more important. If he plays and aggravates his groin problem it will be far more damaging in the longer term. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Capt. Pants 4,228 Posted September 13, 2019 4 minutes ago, BobLoz3 said: Funny boy. The CB's all got injured in ACTUAL GAMES (aside from Hanley) Krul and the midfielders too? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KiwiScot 1,443 Posted September 13, 2019 5 minutes ago, Wacky Waving Inflatable Arm Flailing Tube Man said: Heise is a very offensive left back, so I'd say there's more chance of Lewis at centre back. Not that I'd fancy either of them there, to be honest. I don't think either of them have ever played centre back, but the fact we're even discussing it shows how bad the injury crisis is. Well it's not Vinnie Jones in Goal time just yet 😉 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hairy Canary 700 Posted September 13, 2019 Just now, Capt. Pants said: Krul and the midfielders too? Are you suggesting we changed our training compared with last season? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jim Smith 2,317 Posted September 13, 2019 I bow to those with greater medical knowledge than me but is there a legitimate question over whether excessive training can leave players more susceptible to certain injuries even if those injuries are actually triggered by tackles/incidents in games. We've played less games this season but seem to be picking up a lot more injuries. I know they won't like it but we should also withdraw Godfrey and Lewis from the next round of international fixtures and ask that Pukki doesn't play in any friendlies. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WD40 720 Posted September 13, 2019 Hang on: no Zimmerman, Klose, Godfrey, and Hanley for 20/30 minutes. Who is playing defence? Hanley and Amadou, then Lewis and Amadou? Doesn’t need to be said but probably the worst position to be playing league champs in Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jim Smith 2,317 Posted September 13, 2019 Surely a good chance we will go three at the back given what we have available? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
By Heck It's Fleck 10 Posted September 13, 2019 5 minutes ago, Jim Smith said: I don; think we can/should risk Godfrey in this game if he has a groin problem. This game is a write off. If we get a miracle result then so be it but the games coming up against Burnley, Palace and Villa are so much more important. If he plays and aggravates his groin problem it will be far more damaging in the longer term. Totally agree! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Capt. Pants 4,228 Posted September 13, 2019 2 minutes ago, Hairy Canary said: Are you suggesting we changed our training compared with last season? Well something has. Bloody rediculous. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wacky Waving Inflatable Arm Flailing Tube Man 3,820 Posted September 13, 2019 I know this sounds ridiculous (probably because it is ridiculous) but if Godfrey doesn't make it then I'd be tempted to play Stiepermann there. He's never played centre back in his life, but nor have Lewis or Heise to my knowledge, and at least he has some physical presence. It also allows Lewis to remain in his natural position, Heise can play left wing which he has done many times before and Cantwell can play as a number ten. Against any team other than Man City, I'd say this is the best option, but given the style of Man City I can see why a more pacy, mobile player like Lewis could be better suited to playing at centre back. But let's just hope that Godfrey is fine. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jim Smith 2,317 Posted September 13, 2019 1 minute ago, Wacky Waving Inflatable Arm Flailing Tube Man said: I know this sounds ridiculous (probably because it is ridiculous) but if Godfrey doesn't make it then I'd be tempted to play Stiepermann there. He's never played centre back in his life, but nor have Lewis or Heise to my knowledge, and at least he has some physical presence. It also allows Lewis to remain in his natural position, Heise can play left wing which he has done many times before and Cantwell can play as a number ten. Against any team other than Man City, I'd say this is the best option, but given the style of Man City I can see why a more pacy, mobile player like Lewis could be better suited to playing at centre back. But let's just hope that Godfrey is fine. I don't want Godfrey to play. He clearly won't be 100% so its too big a risk, I do agree with you though re Man City. They wont play much long ball stuff and don't have many big strikers so this is perhaps one game where mobility at the back will be as important as size/aerial ability. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wacky Waving Inflatable Arm Flailing Tube Man 3,820 Posted September 13, 2019 3 minutes ago, Jim Smith said: Surely a good chance we will go three at the back given what we have available? We're struggling to find one, never mind three. 1 minute ago, Capt. Pants said: Well something has. Bloody rediculous. Luck, maybe? Sometimes long term injuries just happen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Keith Scott 244 Posted September 13, 2019 Serious questions have to be asked of the training regime/medical team. These numerous injury issues have been going on continually for two seasons now. Can't just be coincide. Couple that with the fact our board have once again invested diddly squat into the squad and we are bang in trouble. Again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hairy Canary 700 Posted September 13, 2019 Whats the situation with Krul? DF says minor injury doubt but seems to be comments that he is out? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rustyboy 2 Posted September 13, 2019 25 minutes ago, curious yellow said: Not sure where Odusina is. Famewo might be a good shout. I wouldn't risk anyone who's not 100% fit. Maybe Robert Rosario for centre half. How can you put Robert Rosario in when you have Chris Sutton on the bench who has already played in that position 🙂 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jim Smith 2,317 Posted September 13, 2019 Although it sounds a bit ridiculous, its possible that Farke can use this to his advantage and build up some kind of siege mentality over the next few weeks with the players we have left. Tomorrow could be embarrassing and will clearly be very difficult but if it was a holywood movie then our patched up band of heroes would scrape a draw or something! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
curious yellow 184 Posted September 13, 2019 3 minutes ago, Rustyboy said: How can you put Robert Rosario in when you have Chris Sutton on the bench who has already played in that position 🙂 So has Rosario under Dave Stringer. Culverhouse was sweeper. Rob Newman also played both positions Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dean Coneys boots 1,400 Posted September 13, 2019 club took a gamble in spending so very little in summer to strengthen the squad in terms of both quality and depth- and it is coming back to bite us on the @*^% yes we have been unlucky but we also failed to strengthen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
king canary 7,605 Posted September 13, 2019 1 minute ago, Dean Coneys boots said: club took a gamble in spending so very little in summer to strengthen the squad in terms of both quality and depth- and it is coming back to bite us on the @*^% yes we have been unlucky but we also failed to strengthen. I'm not sure this is a fair reading in terms of depth. Not many squads will carry more than 4 out and out central defenders in the 25 and losing all 4 of them to injury at once is difficult to plan for. Man City look likely to also be playing a defensive midfielder in central defence on Saturday and nobody can question their strength in depth. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Diane 500 Posted September 13, 2019 So is this an up to date list ?? Hanley - May be fit enough for bench to play 30 mins Roberts - ineligible to play Leitner - Out Short Term Vrancic - Out Short Term Drimc - Out Short Term Trybull - Out until Mid Oct Zimmerman - Out until Jan Aarons - Out until Mid - Oct Klose - Out for season Hernandez - Out until Dec Krul - doubtful for tomorrow Godfrey - doubtful for tomorrow Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Van wink 2,994 Posted September 13, 2019 8 minutes ago, Diane said: So is this an up to date list ?? Hanley - May be fit enough for bench to play 30 mins Roberts - ineligible to play Leitner - Out Short Term Vrancic - Out Short Term Drimc - Out Short Term Trybull - Out until Mid Oct Zimmerman - Out until Jan Aarons - Out until Mid - Oct Klose - Out for season Hernandez - Out until Dec Krul - doubtful for tomorrow Godfrey - doubtful for tomorrow Thanks for summarising that Diane, I was listing them as they were announced, I say thanks but to be honest seeing that list it looks even worse than I thought. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GJL Mid-Norfolk Canary 1,749 Posted September 13, 2019 17 minutes ago, Diane said: So is this an up to date list ?? Hanley - May be fit enough for bench to play 30 mins Roberts - ineligible to play Leitner - Out Short Term Vrancic - Out Short Term Drimc - Out Short Term Trybull - Out until Mid Oct Zimmerman - Out until Jan Aarons - Out until Mid - Oct Klose - Out for season Hernandez - Out until Dec Krul - doubtful for tomorrow Godfrey - doubtful for tomorrow Drmic?...he came on at west ham??....didnt see that he's injured too? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wacky Waving Inflatable Arm Flailing Tube Man 3,820 Posted September 13, 2019 16 minutes ago, Diane said: Drimc - Out Short Term Is he? I've seen no mention of him today and thought he was available. Could be wrong, though... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Christoph Stiepermann 1,135 Posted September 13, 2019 I wouldn't risk any recurrence of injury so only fully fit players for me even if they're not ready as we have little to lose Fahrmann Byram Bushiri (recall) Amadou Lewis Tettey McLean Buendia Stiepermann Cantwell Pukki Literally have no choice but to close the spaces, press incessantly in packs and hit fast on the counter. get Pukki another goal and keep the scoreline to something respectable and we'd have done amazingly well Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hogesar 9,658 Posted September 13, 2019 31 minutes ago, Dean Coneys boots said: club took a gamble in spending so very little in summer to strengthen the squad in terms of both quality and depth- and it is coming back to bite us on the @*^% yes we have been unlucky but we also failed to strengthen. Cor, I mean you don't miss out on an opportunity ( no matter how flawed your point actually is ) do you DCB? 😂 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tetteys Jig 830 Posted September 13, 2019 1 hour ago, WD40 said: Hang on: no Zimmerman, Klose, Godfrey, and Hanley for 20/30 minutes. Who is playing defence? Hanley and Amadou, then Lewis and Amadou? Doesn’t need to be said but probably the worst position to be playing league champs in would rather we get this out of the way to be fair. Just play with 9 midfielders at the back and hope to keep the score down 11 minutes ago, Christoph Stiepermann said: I wouldn't risk any recurrence of injury so only fully fit players for me even if they're not ready as we have little to lose Fahrmann Byram Bushiri (recall) Amadou Lewis Tettey McLean Buendia Stiepermann Cantwell Pukki Literally have no choice but to close the spaces, press incessantly in packs and hit fast on the counter. get Pukki another goal and keep the scoreline to something respectable and we'd have done amazingly well I don't think we can recall Rocky even Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shefcanary 2,402 Posted September 13, 2019 Thought Klose now just 1 to 2 months - so mid-November Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wacky Waving Inflatable Arm Flailing Tube Man 3,820 Posted September 13, 2019 4 minutes ago, shefcanary said: Thought Klose now just 1 to 2 months - so mid-November No, nine months which could be reduced by one or two. So we won't see him this season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites