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Anyone else been invited to a membership consultation in September to discuss next years membership scheme ? 

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Several letters in circulation apparently and i know of two people that sometimes travel with me to games who have received it CUSDP being one.

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This season will be my first in many years where I don't think I will be able to get to any away games...We often go as a family (and manage about 4 games a year, any within 100 miles from where I am in the north.).  I am just hoping that the scheme changes for next year. At present, it means spending £200 plus then ticket cost....then add travel and food  costs of course....and all for only a lottery of getting 3 or 4 tickets. That's well over £300.

An away scheme based on points wouldn't help either. Not for the likes of me (part time fan I hear folk say now).

And it's a challenge these days to get an answer if you phone the ticket office. I find it sad really. I guess that's commercialism and the Premier League.

Maybe have to live closer to my original home and get to home matches. There seems no alternatives. So I won't be going to Burnley, Sheff Utd, Man Utd or Newcastle this year 😞

Thank goodness for Twitter ...and the lovely Pinkun forum posters for my match news and vocarious catch up on matches!

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A public consultation is simply a PR exercise.

The ones over new road, new airports and new runways , high speed HS2, means nothing.

They will pretend to listen, then simply carry on and do just what they intended.

I would love to think our club is not like that, guess we will find out soon!!

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3 minutes ago, Bradwell canary said:

A public consultation is simply a PR exercise.

The ones over new road, new airports and new runways , high speed HS2, means nothing.

They will pretend to listen, then simply carry on and do just what they intended.

I would love to think our club is not like that, guess we will find out soon!!

After all the Liverpool home fans becoming members and managing to get tickets in the away end on Friday maybe we can open it up to all clubs to apply for memberships and then we can allocate them 250 seats before they go on sale to Norwich supporters. 

How can the club consult on next year when we won’t even know the division we will be in. Don’t want us to be in the championship but if we are can’t see many people will be prepared to part with £50 ? The main group that will buy would be the 750 so they will be charged £50 for their loyalty rather than the club rewarding them from our Premiership money.

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1 minute ago, Well b back said:

After all the Liverpool home fans becoming members and managing to get tickets in the away end on Friday

Were there that many ? I know there were four from comments made on here but if there were quite a few then how bad will it be in the away end at Man U ?

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3 minutes ago, FenwayFrank said:

Were there that many ? I know there were four from comments made on here but if there were quite a few then how bad will it be in the away end at Man U ?

There were 5 that we know of. I am only going by what was said on here but can’t beleive that by coincidence only 5 got tickets and all were arrested ? Maybe People there can be more precise. 

My thoughts are even 1 is to many especially as my son after paying his £50 couldn’t get a ticket.

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19 minutes ago, nutty nigel said:

So was there no check on the customer database before these memberships were sold? 

That would be a good question to ask at the next consultation. Problem is, the club will say they presume any new member will be supporting us, not the opposition. 

I remember going to Old Trafford under the old points system and there was a Man U fan on the coach then so this isn’t new unfortunately.

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4 minutes ago, FenwayFrank said:

remember going to Old Trafford under the old points system and there was a Man U fan on the coach then so this isn’t new unfortunately.

I may well be the only city fan on the Man u bus  from Dublin later this season, although the company running it doesn't specify you have to have red blood ( mine is ice cold yellow and green), so I'll take my chances among the glory hunters, **** em, it's my best chance to get to  an away game from here. I'm not preventing any other genuine City supporters from going, as I'll be in with the Mancs, lucky me.

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I would imagine the seats were “sold on” by members.  I guess they will do it all season unless the club can identify the seats, link it back to the purchasers, and revoke the membership.

Thankfully didn’t have any Reds around me.  Once identified, shouldn’t they be ejected immediately. The segregation is there for a reason.

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4 hours ago, nutty nigel said:

So was there no check on the customer database before these memberships were sold? 

I understand you did had to have purchase history to buy a membership.

Didn't see anyone near us celebrate Liverpool goals but know from a friend there were 6 in the next block who were removed. I assume rightly or wrongly tickets were bought by ncfc fans & passed/sold on

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this is the email invititation

 

Thank you once again for taking the time to get in touch with us with regards to the announcement of the new membership structure and scheme in June. As you may be aware, the Club met with members of various supporter groups on 27th June following the announcement and we agreed that we would hold structured fan consultation to support the scheme to evolve in time for the 20/21 season. Lessons were learnt around the communication and fan consultation and now we have closed the Premier membership scheme for the season for both home and away memberships, we wanted to communicate how you can get involved if you want to, in order to shape what memberships looks like moving forward.

 

We would like to invite you to Carrow Road to take part in a fan forum on Tuesday 24th September.  We would like to give you the opportunity to discuss your feedback and suggestions to move the memberships forward for the 20/21 season in an open environment with other supporters. The timings and location are to be confirmed, dependant on uptake and final numbers however the proposed start-time of the meeting is 18:30 and the finish at approximately 20:30. There will be food and drinks for those who attend.

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15 hours ago, Diane said:

I understand you did had to have purchase history to buy a membership.

Didn't see anyone near us celebrate Liverpool goals but know from a friend there were 6 in the next block who were removed. I assume rightly or wrongly tickets were bought by ncfc fans & passed/sold on

The way people get tickets for matches if they desperately want to go is to go to a professional reseller or touts as they used to be known and they will have purchase history with the club when we were in the PL before, having gone through the usual channels of buying memberships to get their tickets, probably buying multiple memberships under different names to get several tickets they can sell on.  It's common practice.   I've only used one of these people once to get a ticket, away at Man Utd, which cost me £85 (back in 2011/12) so can only imagine what they charge now.

Unfortunately difficult to stop this kind of thing, but it will happen, even on a local level, because the other way touts get their tickets is by locals selling their ticket on to an "agency" (tout) for an inflated price who will then sell it on for even more.

Simplest way to deal with it is to eject the fans who are in the wrong place, get their seat numbers and trace it back to whoever purchased the ticket originally and cancel their membership. Do they do that?  It would be worth asking the question.....

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On 11/08/2019 at 12:04, Well b back said:

After all the Liverpool home fans becoming members and managing to get tickets in the away end on Friday maybe we can open it up to all clubs to apply for memberships and then we can allocate them 250 seats before they go on sale to Norwich supporters. 

How can the club consult on next year when we won’t even know the division we will be in. Don’t want us to be in the championship but if we are can’t see many people will be prepared to part with £50 ? The main group that will buy would be the 750 so they will be charged £50 for their loyalty rather than the club rewarding them from our Premiership money.

Don't know why everyone assumes this 750 are so much more deserving than hundreds or perhaps thousands of others who went to maybe 7, 8 or 9 games away last season. Don't get me wrong these 750 people are loyal fans who deserve a fair crack at getting the away tickets but so are many others who fall below the threshold and in my view the ring fencing of the 750 has created another level of unfairness in the system that wasn't there with the points system because they could stagger the sales by having 3, 4 or 5 different bands.

A home season ticket holder who did 9 aways (therefore 32 league games possibly) now has less priority that someone who may have done 10 away games last season (of which 5 or 6 could have been in the last 2 months when we were looking a good bet for promotion) for the first time ever but only done those 10 games. 

Any changes to the future system need to pick up more than just protect the 750 who happened to fall the right side of the 10 game line for last season.

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If a supporter number has not been used for say 2 seasons it should be removed from the database.

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5 hours ago, Jim Smith said:

Don't know why everyone assumes this 750 are so much more deserving than hundreds or perhaps thousands of others who went to maybe 7, 8 or 9 games away last season. Don't get me wrong these 750 people are loyal fans who deserve a fair crack at getting the away tickets but so are many others who fall below the threshold and in my view the ring fencing of the 750 has created another level of unfairness in the system that wasn't there with the points system because they could stagger the sales by having 3, 4 or 5 different bands.

A home season ticket holder who did 9 aways (therefore 32 league games possibly) now has less priority that someone who may have done 10 away games last season (of which 5 or 6 could have been in the last 2 months when we were looking a good bet for promotion) for the first time ever but only done those 10 games. 

Any changes to the future system need to pick up more than just protect the 750 who happened to fall the right side of the 10 game line for last season.

That is my point. My son is a season ticket holder and did 8 games away last year, yet had to pay £50 and then couldn’t get a ticket for Liverpool. If he fails to get one tomorrow for West Ham the club will be receiving a serious complaining email, might even copy in trading standards.

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6 hours ago, Jim Smith said:

Don't know why everyone assumes this 750 are so much more deserving than hundreds or perhaps thousands of others who went to maybe 7, 8 or 9 games away last season. Don't get me wrong these 750 people are loyal fans who deserve a fair crack at getting the away tickets but so are many others who fall below the threshold and in my view the ring fencing of the 750 has created another level of unfairness in the system that wasn't there with the points system because they could stagger the sales by having 3, 4 or 5 different bands.

A home season ticket holder who did 9 aways (therefore 32 league games possibly) now has less priority that someone who may have done 10 away games last season (of which 5 or 6 could have been in the last 2 months when we were looking a good bet for promotion) for the first time ever but only done those 10 games. 

Any changes to the future system need to pick up more than just protect the 750 who happened to fall the right side of the 10 game line for last season.

If you're talking about away season tkt holders then I disagree Jimbo. When I was an away ST holder I had to pay £20 and commit to not returning more than two tickets. Somebody who went to 7 or 8 games actually turned down 15 or 16 tickets. 

However I do agree with you and can't see where anyone who went to less than half the games can claim to have more loyalty than anyone else who went to less than half the games.

I suppose those who are to be consulted will be able to make a case about why they are more deserving of a ticket than anyone else. Then have the drawbridge raised so that none of those "unworthy" will get a sniff until it all goes wrong and they get fed up again.

 

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