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1 hour ago, Feedthewolf said:

All the loans have ended now, except for Tzolis's. He's scored a hat-trick today, and Dusseldorf have got a two-legged promotion playoff to come next week. I've added Adegboyega too, although can't find any info on the length of his contract.

Based on the Pinkun article from a few hours ago, I've pre-emptively removed Batth, Giannoulis, Gibson and McCallum, plus the loan players (SVH and Lima). Have also updated Lungi's contract to next summer.

GOALKEEPERS (7)
Archie Mair (born 10.2.01, age 23): signed until 2024 (contract signed in March 2021)
HY 37 Daniel Barden (born 2.1.01, age 23): signed until 2026 (contract signed in April 2024)
H Joe Rose (born 5.11.01, age 22): signed until 2024 with club option to 2025 (contract signed in June 2023)
H 38 Jon McCracken (born 24.5.00, age 23): signed until 2024 (contract signed in February 2022)
HF 28 Angus Gunn (born 22.1.96, age 28): signed until 2025 (contract signed in June 2021)
Y 39 Vicente Reyes (born 19.11.03, age 20): signed until ???? (contract signed in June 2023)
12 George Long (born 5.11.93, age 30): signed until 2025 (contract signed in August 2023)

DEFENDERS (10)
HF 5 Grant Hanley (born 20.11.91, age 32): signed until 2025 (contract signed in July 2021)
H 50 Jaden Warner (born 28.10.02, age 21): signed until 2025 (contract signed in December 2020)
45 Jonathan Tomkinson (born 11.4.02, age 22): signed until 2025 with club option to 2026 (contract signed in October 2022)
H Lewis Shipley (born 29.11.03, age 20): signed until 2025 (contract signed in December 2021)
H Brad Hills (born 10.3.04, age 20): signed until 2025 with club option to 2026 (contract signed in November 2022)

H Jack Stacey (born 6.4.96, age 28): signed until 2026 (contract signed in May 2023)
HF 24 Shane Duffy (born 1.1.92, age 32): signed until 2026 (contract signed in June 2023)
H 35 Kellen Fisher (born 5.5.04, age 20): signed until ???? (contract signed in June 2023)
49 Guilherme Montóia (born 14.9.03, age 20): signed until 2025 with club option to 2026 (contract signed in August 2023)
Emmanuel Adegboyega (born 16.9.03, age 20): signed until ???? (contract signed in August 2023)

MIDFIELDERS (12)
23 Kenny McLean (born 8.1.92, age 32): signed until 2026 with club option to 2027 (contract signed in September 2023)
25 Onel Hernandez 
inj (born 1.2.93, age 31): signed until 2025 with club option to 2026 (contract signed in April 2023)
19 Jacob Lungi Sørensen 
(born 3.3.98, age 26): signed until 2025 (contract signed in July 2021)
42 
Tony Springett (born 22.9.02, age 21): signed until 2026 with club option to 2027 (contract signed in October 2022)
Liam Gibbs inj (born 16.12.02, age 21) signed until 2028 (contract signed in July 2023)
17 Gabriel Sara (born 26.6.99, age 24): signed until 2026 with club option to 2027 (contract signed in July 2022)
26 Marcelino Núñez (born 1.3.00, age 24): signed until 2026 (contract signed in August 2022)
H Regan Riley (born 12.11.02, age 21) signed until 2024 with club option to 2025 (contract signed in February 2021)
HY 
Flynn Clarke (born 19.12.02, age 21) signed until 2024 with club option to 2025 (contract signed in June 2021)
Borja Sainz (born 21.2.01, age 23): signed until 2026 (contract signed in June 2023)
16 Christian Fassnacht (born 11.11.93, age 30): signed until 2025 with club option to 2026 (contract signed in July 2023)
43 Finley Welch (born 3.10.04, age 19): signed until 2026 with club option to 2027 (contract signed in October 2023)

FORWARDS (7, 1 out on loan)
HF 11 Adam Idah (born 11.2.01, age 23): signed until 2028 (contract signed in February 2023)
Josh Sargent (born 20.2.00, age 24): signed until 2028 (contract signed in October 2023)
18 Christos Tzolis (born 30.1.02, age 22): signed until 2026 and on loan to Fortuna Düsseldorf for 2023/24 season (contract signed in August 2021)
H 27 Jonathan Rowe (born 30.4.03, age 21): signed until 2025 with club option to 2026 (contract signed in January 2022)
Abu Kamara (born 21.7.03, age 20), signed until 2025  (contract signed in October 2021)
10 Ashley Barnes (born 30.10.89, age 34), signed until 2025 (contract signed in May 2023)
44 Ken Aboh (born 9.11.04, age 19): signed until 2024 (contract signed in December 2021)

Finally, here are all the squad members listed by year of contract expiry, with (+1) indicating we have the option of an extra year:

2024 Mair, McCracken, Rose (+1), Riley (+1), Aboh (5 players)
2025 Gunn, Hanley, Rowe (+1), Warner, Tomkinson (+1), Kamara, Shipley, Hills (+1), Clarke (+1) Hernandez (+1), Barnes, Fassnacht (+1), Montóia (+1), Long, Sørensen (15 players, 7 with an extra year)
2026 
Tzolis, Sara (+1), Núñez, Springett (+1), Stacey, Duffy, Sainz, McLean (+1), Welch (+1), Barden (10 players, 4 with an extra year)
2028 Idah, Gibbs, Sargent (3 players)
Unknown 
Reyes, Adegboyega, Fisher (3 players)

No mention of the young keeper who’s been on bench this season, can’t remember his name though?

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10 minutes ago, TheBaldOne66 said:

@Feedthewolf Ansen was his name, and the lad Renecke who was on bench earlier in season

Good shout! Edited the post to include them both. Don't know how long Renecke is contracted for, though.

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Thanks for these details. Sorry to be a tad negative, but how else can one be when a a Team facing 150 charges win our league, shades of Trump; but why do we need Long? 

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Would expect to see McCracken, Mair, Rose, Riley and Clarke from the youngsters all given a free.

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7 hours ago, DanTheMan said:

Would expect to see McCracken, Mair, Rose, Riley and Clarke from the youngsters all given a free.

Apparently club is in negotiation with Mair for a new contract

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Posted (edited)

As before, with Ansen and Renecke added as they've both been in first-team matchday squads this season.

I'm off on holiday for a week as of today, so I probably won't be updating it again until next week (it's a hassle to do it on my mobile).

Feel free to keep bumping the thread as ins and outs happen, though, and I'll update it when I'm home.

GOALKEEPERS (8)
Archie Mair (born 10.2.01, age 23): signed until 2024 (contract signed in March 2021)
H 37 Daniel Barden (born 2.1.01, age 23): signed until 2026 (contract signed in April 2024)
H Joe Rose (born 5.11.01, age 22): signed until 2024 with club option to 2025 (contract signed in June 2023)
H 38 Jon McCracken (born 24.5.00, age 23): signed until 2024 (contract signed in February 2022)
HF 28 Angus Gunn (born 22.1.96, age 28): signed until 2025 (contract signed in June 2021)
Y 39 Vicente Reyes (born 19.11.03, age 20): signed until ???? (contract signed in June 2023)
H 12 George Long (born 5.11.93, age 30): signed until 2025 (contract signed in August 2023)
H 51 Caleb Ansen (born 18.9.05, age 18): signed until 2026 with club option to 2027 (contract signed in October 2023)

DEFENDERS (11)
HF 5 Grant Hanley (born 20.11.91, age 32): signed until 2025 (contract signed in July 2021)
H 50 Jaden Warner (born 28.10.02, age 21): signed until 2025 (contract signed in December 2020)
HY 45 Jonathan Tomkinson (born 11.4.02, age 22): signed until 2025 with club option to 2026 (contract signed in October 2022)
H Lewis Shipley (born 29.11.03, age 20): signed until 2025 (contract signed in December 2021)
H Brad Hills (born 10.3.04, age 20): signed until 2025 with club option to 2026 (contract signed in November 2022)

H Jack Stacey (born 6.4.96, age 28): signed until 2026 (contract signed in May 2023)
HF 24 Shane Duffy (born 1.1.92, age 32): signed until 2026 (contract signed in June 2023)
H 35 Kellen Fisher (born 5.5.04, age 20): signed until ???? (contract signed in June 2023)
49 Guilherme Montóia (born 14.9.03, age 20): signed until 2025 with club option to 2026 (contract signed in August 2023)
Emmanuel Adegboyega (born 16.9.03, age 20): signed until ???? (contract signed in August 2023)
H 48 Waylon Renecke (born 12.5.06, age 18): signed until ???? (contract signed in July 2023)

MIDFIELDERS (12)
23 Kenny McLean (born 8.1.92, age 32): signed until 2026 with club option to 2027 (contract signed in September 2023)
25 Onel Hernandez 
inj (born 1.2.93, age 31): signed until 2025 with club option to 2026 (contract signed in April 2023)
19 Jacob Lungi Sørensen (born 3.3.98, age 26): signed until 2025 (contract signed in July 2021)
H
Y 42 Tony Springett (born 22.9.02, age 21): signed until 2026 with club option to 2027 (contract signed in October 2022)
Liam Gibbs inj (born 16.12.02, age 21) signed until 2028 (contract signed in July 2023)
17 Gabriel Sara (born 26.6.99, age 24): signed until 2026 with club option to 2027 (contract signed in July 2022)
26 Marcelino Núñez (born 1.3.00, age 24): signed until 2026 (contract signed in August 2022)
H Regan Riley (born 12.11.02, age 21) signed until 2024 with club option to 2025 (contract signed in February 2021)
HY 
Flynn Clarke (born 19.12.02, age 21) signed until 2024 with club option to 2025 (contract signed in June 2021)
Borja Sainz (born 21.2.01, age 23): signed until 2026 (contract signed in June 2023)
16 Christian Fassnacht (born 11.11.93, age 30): signed until 2025 with club option to 2026 (contract signed in July 2023)
43 Finley Welch (born 3.10.04, age 19): signed until 2026 with club option to 2027 (contract signed in October 2023)

FORWARDS (7, 1 out on loan)
HF 11 Adam Idah (born 11.2.01, age 23): signed until 2028 (contract signed in February 2023)
Josh Sargent (born 20.2.00, age 24): signed until 2028 (contract signed in October 2023)
18 Christos Tzolis (born 30.1.02, age 22): signed until 2026 and on loan to Fortuna Düsseldorf for 2023/24 season (contract signed in August 2021)
HY 27 Jonathan Rowe (born 30.4.03, age 21): signed until 2025 with club option to 2026 (contract signed in January 2022)
Abu Kamara (born 21.7.03, age 20), signed until 2025  (contract signed in October 2021)
10 Ashley Barnes (born 30.10.89, age 34), signed until 2025 (contract signed in May 2023)
44 Ken Aboh (born 9.11.04, age 19): signed until 2024 (contract signed in December 2021)

Finally, here are all the squad members listed by year of contract expiry, with (+1) indicating we have the option of an extra year:

2024 Mair, McCracken, Rose (+1), Riley (+1), Aboh (5 players)
2025 Gunn, Hanley, Rowe (+1), Warner, Tomkinson (+1), Kamara, Shipley, Hills (+1), Clarke (+1) Hernandez (+1), Barnes, Fassnacht (+1), Montóia (+1), Long, Sørensen (15 players, 7 with an extra year)
2026 
Tzolis, Sara (+1), Núñez, Springett (+1), Stacey, Duffy, Sainz, McLean (+1), Welch (+1), Barden, Ansen (+1) (11 players, 5 with an extra year)
2028 Idah, Gibbs, Sargent (3 players)
Unknown 
Reyes, Adegboyega, Fisher, Renecke (4 players)

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Good timing, Nodge! Just about got time to update the list before Mrs Wolf and I toddle off to Nodge International. Particularly pleased to see that we're still negotiating with Aboh; maybe Knapper is able to give him some assurances that he'll be a bigger part of the first-team squad for next season.

Feel free to keep bumping the thread as ins and outs happen, and I'll update it when I'm back.

GOALKEEPERS (6)
Archie Mair (born 10.2.01, age 23): signed until 2025 with club option to 2026 (contract signed in May 2024)
H 37 Daniel Barden (born 2.1.01, age 23): signed until 2026 (contract signed in April 2024)
HF 28 Angus Gunn (born 22.1.96, age 28): signed until 2025 (contract signed in June 2021)
Y 39 Vicente Reyes (born 19.11.03, age 20): signed until ???? (contract signed in June 2023)
H 12 George Long (born 5.11.93, age 30): signed until 2025 (contract signed in August 2023)
H 51 Caleb Ansen (born 18.9.05, age 18): signed until 2026 with club option to 2027 (contract signed in October 2023)

DEFENDERS (11)
HF 5 Grant Hanley (born 20.11.91, age 32): signed until 2025 (contract signed in July 2021)
H 50 Jaden Warner (born 28.10.02, age 21): signed until 2025 (contract signed in December 2020)
HY 45 Jonathan Tomkinson (born 11.4.02, age 22): signed until 2025 with club option to 2026 (contract signed in October 2022)
H Lewis Shipley (born 29.11.03, age 20): signed until 2025 (contract signed in December 2021)
H Brad Hills (born 10.3.04, age 20): signed until 2025 with club option to 2026 (contract signed in November 2022)

H Jack Stacey (born 6.4.96, age 28): signed until 2026 (contract signed in May 2023)
HF 24 Shane Duffy (born 1.1.92, age 32): signed until 2026 (contract signed in June 2023)
H 35 Kellen Fisher (born 5.5.04, age 20): signed until ???? (contract signed in June 2023)
49 Guilherme Montóia (born 14.9.03, age 20): signed until 2025 with club option to 2026 (contract signed in August 2023)
Emmanuel Adegboyega (born 16.9.03, age 20): signed until ???? (contract signed in August 2023)
H 48 Waylon Renecke (born 12.5.06, age 18): signed until ???? (contract signed in July 2023)

MIDFIELDERS (10)
23 Kenny McLean (born 8.1.92, age 32): signed until 2026 with club option to 2027 (contract signed in September 2023)
25 Onel Hernandez 
inj (born 1.2.93, age 31): signed until 2025 with club option to 2026 (contract signed in April 2023)
19 Jacob Lungi Sørensen (born 3.3.98, age 26): 
signed until 2025 with club option to 2026 (contract signed in May 2024)
HY 42 Tony Springett (born 22.9.02, age 21): signed until 2026 with club option to 2027 (contract signed in October 2022)
Liam Gibbs inj (born 16.12.02, age 21) signed until 2028 (contract signed in July 2023)
17 Gabriel Sara (born 26.6.99, age 24): signed until 2026 with club option to 2027 (contract signed in July 2022)
26 Marcelino Núñez (born 1.3.00, age 24): signed until 2026 (contract signed in August 2022)

Borja Sainz (born 21.2.01, age 23): signed until 2026 (contract signed in June 2023)
16 Christian Fassnacht (born 11.11.93, age 30): signed until 2025 with club option to 2026 (contract signed in July 2023)
43 Finley Welch (born 3.10.04, age 19): signed until 2026 with club option to 2027 (contract signed in October 2023)

FORWARDS (7, 1 out on loan)
HF 11 Adam Idah (born 11.2.01, age 23): signed until 2028 (contract signed in February 2023)
Josh Sargent (born 20.2.00, age 24): signed until 2028 (contract signed in October 2023)
18 Christos Tzolis (born 30.1.02, age 22): signed until 2026 and on loan to Fortuna Düsseldorf for 2023/24 season (contract signed in August 2021)
HY 27 Jonathan Rowe (born 30.4.03, age 21): signed until 2025 with club option to 2026 (contract signed in January 2022)
Abu Kamara (born 21.7.03, age 20), signed until 2025  (contract signed in October 2021)
10 Ashley Barnes (born 30.10.89, age 34), signed until 2025 (contract signed in May 2023)
44 Ken Aboh (born 9.11.04, age 19): signed until 2024 (contract signed in December 2021)

Finally, here are all the squad members listed by year of contract expiry, with (+1) indicating we have the option of an extra year:

2024 Aboh (1 player)
2025 Gunn, Hanley, Rowe (+1), Warner, Tomkinson (+1), Kamara, Shipley, Hills (+1), Hernandez (+1), Barnes, Fassnacht (+1), Montóia (+1), Long, Sørensen (+1), Mair (+1) (15 players, 8 with an extra year)
2026 
Tzolis, Sara (+1), Núñez, Springett (+1), Stacey, Duffy, Sainz, McLean (+1), Welch (+1), Barden, Ansen (+1) (11 players, 5 with an extra year)
2028 Idah, Gibbs, Sargent (3 players)
Unknown 
Reyes, Adegboyega, Fisher, Renecke (4 players)

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On 20/05/2024 at 10:30, Feedthewolf said:

I'm off on holiday for a week as of today, so I probably won't be updating it again until next week (it's a hassle to do it on my mobile).

Taking a holiday during the close season when your work is most required on here is completely unacceptable 

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I've been otherwise engaged for the past week and been very busy. Just catching up on things, so here are a few (I hope) helpful posts.

First things first: FTW, there are some academy players who you don't have on this list but must be considered now as listed on the club site as in U21 squad and are regularly mentioned in despatches as having a future: Dylan Berry, Aidan Manning, Harry Brooke, Daniel Ogwuru, Ellis Craven, Charlie Wilson, Alex Roberts and Gabriel Forsyth.

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Then my analysis by the EFL named squad rules as it stands today:

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Some observations:

1. There are now only 41 players (42 including the on-loan Tzolis) contracted at u21 and above, a sharp decline from the 62 we had going into last season. There will be signings, but with loss of parachute money, the focus of these will only be at academy player level?

2. As it stands there are 8 spots available for over-21's available to fill.

3. We don't have the minimum homegrown senior players (but there again we don't have enough over 21's to fill all 9 subs spots either) so no surprise U21's (one of whom would have to be "homegrown") would have to fill at least 3 places, more when injuries come in to play. They cannot be expected just to warm the bench next season surely?

4. At least 8 of the current senior squad are only contracted for another season and with only 3 of the U21's currently contracted (as far as FTW and I know) beyond next season as well, there is a hell of a lot of work to do for Knapper.

5. Goalkeepers make up nearly a fifth of available players, we are down to one U21 left back (although potential I think for 3 others at least to cover), but other areas are still relatively well covered if the U21's can deliver!

If there are to be more players departing before the season kicks off, they will have to be for "full value" to ensure we can buy in better players to have anywhere near a competitive squad for next season, let alone the season after.

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34 minutes ago, shefcanary said:

I've been otherwise engaged for the past week and been very busy. Just catching up on things, so here are a few (I hope) helpful posts.

First things first: FTW, there are some academy players who you don't have on this list but must be considered now as listed on the club site as in U21 squad and are regularly mentioned in despatches as having a future: Dylan Berry, Aidan Manning, Harry Brooke, Daniel Ogwuru, Ellis Craven, Charlie Wilson, Alex Roberts and Gabriel Forsyth.

I'd completely forgotten about Manning. Mid-season he seemed fairly likely to get some first-team minutes with us or on loan, but haven't heard anything since.

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Finally, one saving grace is the post-Brexit relaxation of overseas players now allowed. This should allow the club to bring in players who may be better value than UK ones. I've copied a summary of how the rules work further below but there are questions of how helpful these may be. For instance:

  • How many players last year were brought in under the scheme and have been retained (Montoia?) and are any now deemed ESC players?
  • How did the club do last season in trying to meet the 35% EQP player minutes limit which determines if we have 2, 3 or even 4 spaces available. Given Wagner's reluctance to play our U21's maybe this will be one frustrating legacy he leaves the club with?

Again, this should allow two (perhaps more) incoming surprises in terms of young players, but obviously it will be a bit of punt. A new Buendia type signing would be great.

New official guidance issued in 2023 has relaxed the rules on English football clubs bringing foreign youth players to the UK. UK visa rules, however, remain complex, making professional advice critical to securing a visa to play football in the UK.

Who needs a visa to play football in the UK?

Under the UK’s post-Brexit immigration system, foreign nationals must have permission to work in the UK. In most cases, this will mean applying to the Home Office for a suitable visa.

For professional footballers, the primary UK visa option is the International Sportsperson visa. This visa allows the holder to work, ie play professional football for an English club, for up to three years. The visa can be extended for as long as the player continues to be eligible under the visa conditions. After 5 years, the player can become eligible to apply for UK settlement, provided they’ve had at least one visa that lasted longer than 12 months.

Eligibility for the International Sportsperson visa is determined by the player being endorsed by the relevant sporting body and meeting the visa requirements.

International Sportsperson visa requirements

The International Sportsperson is a highly exclusive route, limited to elite and established professional players and coaches operating at the highest level in their sport. As such, the requirements are strict and aimed only at those who can show high-calibre sporting credentials.

Applicants first require Governing Body Endorsement (GBE) from their sport’s governing body. For footballers, this is the FA. GBE criteria include the number of international appearances the player has made, the number of minutes the player has featured in domestic or continental competition, the success of the player’s previous club and the quality of the domestic league in which that club competes.

In order to recruit an international player, the football club must hold a valid sponsorship licenceOnce the player has been endorsed, the club can assign a Certificate of Sponsorship to the player, who can then make their application to the Home Office for the International Sportsperson visa. For the visa, the applicant must attain a minimum of 70 points under the points-based immigration system.

Exemption for ESC footballers

In June 2023, an exemption was introduced to the standard GBE requirements for the International Sportsperson route, aimed at making it easier for English Premier League and English Football League (EFL) football clubs to bring in up-and-coming foreign players, so-called ESC (Elite Significant Contribution) players.

Under the exemption, eligible clubs are allowed to sign ESC youth players who show exceptional ‘promise’ but who would not ordinarily meet the endorsement requirements for the International Sportsperson visa.

Under the rules, Premier League and Championship teams are permitted to bring in four additional international players, while League One and League Two teams can bring in two players, who qualify as ESC players.

ESC player visa rules

ESC players are those deemed to have significant potential at an elite level and who will make a significant contribution to English football.

ESC players will effectively attain endorsement equivalent to a GBE, despite not meeting the standard 15-point GBE criteria, which will allow them to play for an English club.

The FA’s ESC criteria apply to the Player Reference Period, which is the period up to 24 months prior to the date the ESC GBE application is made. During this period, the player must have satisfied one or more of the following:

  • Played in one or more youth international matches for a country in the top 50 of the FIFA world rankings
  • Played in five or more youth international matches for a country outside the top 50 of the FIFA world rankings
  • Played in one or more continental youth competition matches
  • Played in five or more domestic youth competition matches
  • Played in one or more senior international matches for a country in the top 50 of the FIFA world rankings
  • Played in five or more senior international matches for a country outside the top 50 of the FIFA world rankings
  • Played in one or more continental competition matches
  • Played in five or more domestic competition matches

Clubs will also have to evidence to the Football Association’s (FA’s) satisfaction that the player is an elite player and will make a significant contribution to the sport.

How many ESC players can a club bring in?

Limits apply to the number of ESC players a club can bring into the UK.

English clubs in the Premier League and the English Football Leagues up to League 2 have two spaces for ESC players.

Clubs in the Premier League and Championship can have two additional ESC spaces where they exceed 35% of weighted England Qualified Players (EQP) minutes.

Under the guidance, not every club will be able to use their maximum number of slots for the 2023/24 season. For future seasons, the number of ESC slots available to a club will depend on the percentage of minutes that the club gives to EQPs.

If after 12 months of signing an ESC player, the club applies for them to become a non-ESC player, their ESC space can in certain circumstances, be freed up for a different eligible player. For this to apply, requirements include meeting minimum thresholds in relation to international appearances autopass percentage, attaining 15 points or more for a GBE, or playing in 25% of the EQP qualifying matches and requisite percentage of available minutes.

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19 hours ago, Robert N. LiM said:

Taking a holiday during the close season when your work is most required on here is completely unacceptable 

Sorry, boss. Currently on a coach heading for Lisbon, so thought I'd check in with you all.

@shefcanary: tl;dr.

(Just kidding; I'll consider your epic contribution more thoroughly when I'm back in blighty. For the record, the current criterion for inclusion is that you must have been named in a first-team squad to qualify. Perhaps we could look to merge our respective info-dumps into one all-encompassing superthread?)

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1 hour ago, shefcanary said:

Then my analysis by the EFL named squad rules as it stands today:

 

 

I believe Shipley is a natural Left Back (he certainly played there for the vast majority of last season)

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2 hours ago, NewNestCarrow said:

I believe Shipley is a natural Left Back (he certainly played there for the vast majority of last season)

Ah, I just remember watching the goal he scored for Stanley was from the right hand side - perhaps he is adaptable then? Immediate problem potentially solved then, the club liked what they saw and decided the future was Shipley and Montoia!

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Cordoba added. Don't think there have actually been any other ins, outs or new contracts signed since the season ended? Pink'un reported last week that they were optimistic we'd be able to get Ken Aboh to sign a new contract, which would be great news if true.

EDIT: Córdoba contract length added, thanks @HazzaJet!

GOALKEEPERS (6)
Archie Mair (born 10.2.01, age 23): signed until 2025 with club option to 2026 (contract signed in May 2024)
H 37 Daniel Barden (born 2.1.01, age 23): signed until 2026 (contract signed in April 2024)
HF 28 Angus Gunn (born 22.1.96, age 28): signed until 2025 (contract signed in June 2021)
Y 39 Vicente Reyes (born 19.11.03, age 20): signed until ???? (contract signed in June 2023)
H 12 George Long (born 5.11.93, age 30): signed until 2025 (contract signed in August 2023)
H 51 Caleb Ansen (born 18.9.05, age 18): signed until 2026 with club option to 2027 (contract signed in October 2023)

DEFENDERS (12)
HF 5 Grant Hanley (born 20.11.91, age 32): signed until 2025 (contract signed in July 2021)
H 50 Jaden Warner (born 28.10.02, age 21): signed until 2025 (contract signed in December 2020)
HY 45 Jonathan Tomkinson (born 11.4.02, age 22): signed until 2025 with club option to 2026 (contract signed in October 2022)
H Lewis Shipley (born 29.11.03, age 20): signed until 2025 (contract signed in December 2021)
H Brad Hills (born 10.3.04, age 20): signed until 2025 with club option to 2026 (contract signed in November 2022)

H Jack Stacey (born 6.4.96, age 28): signed until 2026 (contract signed in May 2023)
HF 24 Shane Duffy (born 1.1.92, age 32): signed until 2026 (contract signed in June 2023)
H 35 Kellen Fisher (born 5.5.04, age 20): signed until ???? (contract signed in June 2023)
49 Guilherme Montóia (born 14.9.03, age 20): signed until 2025 with club option to 2026 (contract signed in August 2023)
Emmanuel Adegboyega (born 16.9.03, age 20): signed until ???? (contract signed in August 2023)
H 48 Waylon Renecke (born 12.5.06, age 18): signed until ???? (contract signed in July 2023)
F José Córdoba (born 3.6.01, age 23): signed until 2028 (contract signed in June 2024)

MIDFIELDERS (10)
23 Kenny McLean (born 8.1.92, age 32): signed until 2026 with club option to 2027 (contract signed in September 2023)
25 Onel Hernandez 
inj (born 1.2.93, age 31): signed until 2025 with club option to 2026 (contract signed in April 2023)
19 Jacob Lungi Sørensen (born 3.3.98, age 26): 
signed until 2025 with club option to 2026 (contract signed in May 2024)
HY 42 Tony Springett (born 22.9.02, age 21): signed until 2026 with club option to 2027 (contract signed in October 2022)
Liam Gibbs inj (born 16.12.02, age 21) signed until 2028 (contract signed in July 2023)
17 Gabriel Sara (born 26.6.99, age 24): signed until 2026 with club option to 2027 (contract signed in July 2022)
26 Marcelino Núñez (born 1.3.00, age 24): signed until 2026 (contract signed in August 2022)

Borja Sainz (born 21.2.01, age 23): signed until 2026 (contract signed in June 2023)
16 Christian Fassnacht (born 11.11.93, age 30): signed until 2025 with club option to 2026 (contract signed in July 2023)
43 Finley Welch (born 3.10.04, age 19): signed until 2026 with club option to 2027 (contract signed in October 2023)

FORWARDS (7, 1 out on loan)
HF 11 Adam Idah (born 11.2.01, age 23): signed until 2028 (contract signed in February 2023)
Josh Sargent (born 20.2.00, age 24): signed until 2028 (contract signed in October 2023)
18 Christos Tzolis (born 30.1.02, age 22): signed until 2026 and on loan to Fortuna Düsseldorf for 2023/24 season (contract signed in August 2021)
HY 27 Jonathan Rowe (born 30.4.03, age 21): signed until 2025 with club option to 2026 (contract signed in January 2022)
Abu Kamara (born 21.7.03, age 20), signed until 2025  (contract signed in October 2021)
10 Ashley Barnes (born 30.10.89, age 34), signed until 2025 (contract signed in May 2023)
44 Ken Aboh (born 9.11.04, age 19): signed until 2024 (contract signed in December 2021)

Finally, here are all the squad members listed by year of contract expiry, with (+1) indicating we have the option of an extra year:

2024 Aboh (1 player)
2025 Gunn, Hanley, Rowe (+1), Warner, Tomkinson (+1), Kamara, Shipley, Hills (+1), Hernandez (+1), Barnes, Fassnacht (+1), Montóia (+1), Long, Sørensen (+1), Mair (+1) (15 players, 8 with an extra year)
2026 
Tzolis, Sara (+1), Núñez, Springett (+1), Stacey, Duffy, Sainz, McLean (+1), Welch (+1), Barden, Ansen (+1) (11 players, 5 with an extra year)
2028 Idah, Gibbs, Sargent, Córdoba (4 players)
Unknown 
Reyes, Adegboyega, Fisher, Renecke (4 players)

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Well as Wolfie has updated his table, I've done likewise. It looks, well a bit bare compared to prior seasons, although there is still time to fill those gaps IF the budget is there:

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The total number of players has reduced from 62 at its peak last season to only 42 currently. In effect at the moment only just enough players before injury to field a first team plus an U21 or U23. Of course some of the U18's will now graduate to the U21's but it really does look like down to the bare bones, especially when you consider there are 8 goalkeepers in that 42, as well as as 7 over 30! The spread of positions is relatively well covered, its just whether the quality is there. 13 of the contracts (that between Wolfie and I as far as we know) end next season. 

So, ordinarily you would expect to see lots of incomings from hereon with few departures to fill those gaps. But I don't think there is much spare salary budget here, even if transfer funds were available. I estimate the staffing costs of the above is at least £20m with NI costs, possibly closer to £25m. That realistically takes up all the playing squad salary budget that is available this season. So, any acquisitions have to be funded by departures, well paid departures at that. If we get a reasonable incoming fee for one sale, expect to see it spent on 2 to 3 prospects. I don't see any "name" players incoming.

Thorup has signed up to Knapper's strategy of playing the youngsters more often. In fact from the above he has no choice but to. So is he up to it? 🤞

 

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I am absolutely open to ideas as to how we could conflate my list and Shef's delightful spreadsheet into a single entity.

If anyone happens to be an expert in prompt engineering and could maybe utilise AI to help us, be my guest!

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2 hours ago, Feedthewolf said:

Cordoba added. Don't think there have actually been any other ins, outs or new contracts signed since the season ended? Pink'un reported last week that they were optimistic we'd be able to get Ken Aboh to sign a new contract, which would be great news if true.

GOALKEEPERS (6)
Archie Mair (born 10.2.01, age 23): signed until 2025 with club option to 2026 (contract signed in May 2024)
H 37 Daniel Barden (born 2.1.01, age 23): signed until 2026 (contract signed in April 2024)
HF 28 Angus Gunn (born 22.1.96, age 28): signed until 2025 (contract signed in June 2021)
Y 39 Vicente Reyes (born 19.11.03, age 20): signed until ???? (contract signed in June 2023)
H 12 George Long (born 5.11.93, age 30): signed until 2025 (contract signed in August 2023)
H 51 Caleb Ansen (born 18.9.05, age 18): signed until 2026 with club option to 2027 (contract signed in October 2023)

DEFENDERS (12)
HF 5 Grant Hanley (born 20.11.91, age 32): signed until 2025 (contract signed in July 2021)
H 50 Jaden Warner (born 28.10.02, age 21): signed until 2025 (contract signed in December 2020)
HY 45 Jonathan Tomkinson (born 11.4.02, age 22): signed until 2025 with club option to 2026 (contract signed in October 2022)
H Lewis Shipley (born 29.11.03, age 20): signed until 2025 (contract signed in December 2021)
H Brad Hills (born 10.3.04, age 20): signed until 2025 with club option to 2026 (contract signed in November 2022)

H Jack Stacey (born 6.4.96, age 28): signed until 2026 (contract signed in May 2023)
HF 24 Shane Duffy (born 1.1.92, age 32): signed until 2026 (contract signed in June 2023)
H 35 Kellen Fisher (born 5.5.04, age 20): signed until ???? (contract signed in June 2023)
49 Guilherme Montóia (born 14.9.03, age 20): signed until 2025 with club option to 2026 (contract signed in August 2023)
Emmanuel Adegboyega (born 16.9.03, age 20): signed until ???? (contract signed in August 2023)
H 48 Waylon Renecke (born 12.5.06, age 18): signed until ???? (contract signed in July 2023)
F José Córdoba (born 3.6.01, age 23): signed until ???? (contract signed in June 2024)

MIDFIELDERS (10)
23 Kenny McLean (born 8.1.92, age 32): signed until 2026 with club option to 2027 (contract signed in September 2023)
25 Onel Hernandez 
inj (born 1.2.93, age 31): signed until 2025 with club option to 2026 (contract signed in April 2023)
19 Jacob Lungi Sørensen (born 3.3.98, age 26): 
signed until 2025 with club option to 2026 (contract signed in May 2024)
HY 42 Tony Springett (born 22.9.02, age 21): signed until 2026 with club option to 2027 (contract signed in October 2022)
Liam Gibbs inj (born 16.12.02, age 21) signed until 2028 (contract signed in July 2023)
17 Gabriel Sara (born 26.6.99, age 24): signed until 2026 with club option to 2027 (contract signed in July 2022)
26 Marcelino Núñez (born 1.3.00, age 24): signed until 2026 (contract signed in August 2022)

Borja Sainz (born 21.2.01, age 23): signed until 2026 (contract signed in June 2023)
16 Christian Fassnacht (born 11.11.93, age 30): signed until 2025 with club option to 2026 (contract signed in July 2023)
43 Finley Welch (born 3.10.04, age 19): signed until 2026 with club option to 2027 (contract signed in October 2023)

FORWARDS (7, 1 out on loan)
HF 11 Adam Idah (born 11.2.01, age 23): signed until 2028 (contract signed in February 2023)
Josh Sargent (born 20.2.00, age 24): signed until 2028 (contract signed in October 2023)
18 Christos Tzolis (born 30.1.02, age 22): signed until 2026 and on loan to Fortuna Düsseldorf for 2023/24 season (contract signed in August 2021)
HY 27 Jonathan Rowe (born 30.4.03, age 21): signed until 2025 with club option to 2026 (contract signed in January 2022)
Abu Kamara (born 21.7.03, age 20), signed until 2025  (contract signed in October 2021)
10 Ashley Barnes (born 30.10.89, age 34), signed until 2025 (contract signed in May 2023)
44 Ken Aboh (born 9.11.04, age 19): signed until 2024 (contract signed in December 2021)

Finally, here are all the squad members listed by year of contract expiry, with (+1) indicating we have the option of an extra year:

2024 Aboh (1 player)
2025 Gunn, Hanley, Rowe (+1), Warner, Tomkinson (+1), Kamara, Shipley, Hills (+1), Hernandez (+1), Barnes, Fassnacht (+1), Montóia (+1), Long, Sørensen (+1), Mair (+1) (15 players, 8 with an extra year)
2026 
Tzolis, Sara (+1), Núñez, Springett (+1), Stacey, Duffy, Sainz, McLean (+1), Welch (+1), Barden, Ansen (+1) (11 players, 5 with an extra year)
2028 Idah, Gibbs, Sargent (3 players)
Unknown 
Reyes, Adegboyega, Fisher, Renecke, Córdoba (5 players)

Apparently Cordoba signed a 4 year deal (according to the Pink Un)

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3 minutes ago, HazzaJet said:

Apparently Cordoba signed a 4 year deal (according to the Pink Un)

Cheers buddy. Have updated above 🙂

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In case it escaped your notice, Vicente Reyes has gone on loan to Cambridge for the season ahead. A good step up if he can get some games at League One level. I've also removed Tzolis, as he's now completed his move to Dusseldorf (and looks likely to move to Club Brugge shortly).

As ever, let me know anything I've missed... and it's still bugging me that there are four players whose contract expiry is unknown, so kudos to anyone who can fill in any of those blanks!

GOALKEEPERS (6, 1 on loan)
Archie Mair (born 10.2.01, age 23): signed until 2025 with club option to 2026 (contract signed in May 2024)
H 37 Daniel Barden (born 2.1.01, age 23): signed until 2026 (contract signed in April 2024)
HF 28 Angus Gunn (born 22.1.96, age 28): signed until 2025 (contract signed in June 2021)
Y 39 Vicente Reyes (born 19.11.03, age 20): signed until ???? and on loan to Cambridge United for the 2024/25 season (contract signed in June 2023)
H 12 George Long (born 5.11.93, age 30): signed until 2025 (contract signed in August 2023)
H 51 Caleb Ansen (born 18.9.05, age 18): signed until 2026 with club option to 2027 (contract signed in October 2023)

DEFENDERS (12)
HF 5 Grant Hanley (born 20.11.91, age 32): signed until 2025 (contract signed in July 2021)
H 50 Jaden Warner (born 28.10.02, age 21): signed until 2025 (contract signed in December 2020)
HY 45 Jonathan Tomkinson (born 11.4.02, age 22): signed until 2025 with club option to 2026 (contract signed in October 2022)
H Lewis Shipley (born 29.11.03, age 20): signed until 2025 (contract signed in December 2021)
H Brad Hills (born 10.3.04, age 20): signed until 2025 with club option to 2026 (contract signed in November 2022)

H Jack Stacey (born 6.4.96, age 28): signed until 2026 (contract signed in May 2023)
HF 24 Shane Duffy (born 1.1.92, age 32): signed until 2026 (contract signed in June 2023)
H 35 Kellen Fisher (born 5.5.04, age 20): signed until ???? (contract signed in June 2023)
49 Guilherme Montóia (born 14.9.03, age 20): signed until 2025 with club option to 2026 (contract signed in August 2023)
Emmanuel Adegboyega (born 16.9.03, age 20): signed until ???? (contract signed in August 2023)
H 48 Waylon Renecke (born 12.5.06, age 18): signed until ???? (contract signed in July 2023)
F José Córdoba (born 3.6.01, age 23): signed until 2028 (contract signed in June 2024)

MIDFIELDERS (10)
23 Kenny McLean (born 8.1.92, age 32): signed until 2026 with club option to 2027 (contract signed in September 2023)
25 Onel Hernandez 
(born 1.2.93, age 31): signed until 2025 with club option to 2026 (contract signed in April 2023)
19 Jacob Lungi Sørensen (born 3.3.98, age 26): 
signed until 2025 with club option to 2026 (contract signed in May 2024)
HY 42 Tony Springett (born 22.9.02, age 21): signed until 2026 with club option to 2027 (contract signed in October 2022)
Liam Gibbs (born 16.12.02, age 21) signed until 2028 (contract signed in July 2023)
17 Gabriel Sara (born 26.6.99, age 25): signed until 2026 with club option to 2027 (contract signed in July 2022)
26 Marcelino Núñez (born 1.3.00, age 24): signed until 2026 (contract signed in August 2022)

Borja Sainz (born 21.2.01, age 23): signed until 2026 (contract signed in June 2023)
16 Christian Fassnacht (born 11.11.93, age 30): signed until 2025 with club option to 2026 (contract signed in July 2023)
43 Finley Welch (born 3.10.04, age 19): signed until 2026 with club option to 2027 (contract signed in October 2023)

FORWARDS (6)
HF 11 Adam Idah (born 11.2.01, age 23): signed until 2028 (contract signed in February 2023)
Josh Sargent (born 20.2.00, age 24): signed until 2028 (contract signed in October 2023)
HY 27 Jonathan Rowe (born 30.4.03, age 21): signed until 2025 with club option to 2026 (contract signed in January 2022)
Abu Kamara (born 21.7.03, age 20), signed until 2025  (contract signed in October 2021)
10 Ashley Barnes (born 30.10.89, age 34), signed until 2025 (contract signed in May 2023)
44 Ken Aboh (born 9.11.04, age 19): signed until 2024 (contract signed in December 2021)

Finally, here are all the squad members listed by year of contract expiry, with (+1) indicating we have the option of an extra year:

2024 Aboh (1 player)
2025 Gunn, Hanley, Rowe (+1), Warner, Tomkinson (+1), Kamara, Shipley, Hills (+1), Hernandez (+1), Barnes, Fassnacht (+1), Montóia (+1), Long, Sørensen (+1), Mair (+1) (15 players, 8 with an extra year)
2026 
Sara (+1), Núñez, Springett (+1), Stacey, Duffy, Sainz, McLean (+1), Welch (+1), Barden, Ansen (+1) (10 players, 5 with an extra year)
2028 Idah, Gibbs, Sargent, Córdoba (4 players)
Unknown 
Reyes, Adegboyega, Fisher, Renecke (4 players)

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According to Transfermarkt, Reyes is signed until 30/06/26 and Fisher until 30/06/27. Not sure if you need more verification. Even they don’t have the info on the other two.

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32 minutes ago, Mr Angry said:

According to Transfermarkt, Reyes is signed until 30/06/26 and Fisher until 30/06/27. Not sure if you need more verification. Even they don’t have the info on the other two.

Transfermarkt also list Matt Richardson in our U18 squad and Ben Watt in our U21s, so let's bear that in mind!!

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And, as if by magic, Ken Aboh signs on the dotted line! A big piece of business for us.

EDIT: Option of extra year added to Kamara's contract (thanks to @NC for pointing it out, according to the Pinkun at least).

GOALKEEPERS (6, 1 on loan)
Archie Mair (born 10.2.01, age 23): signed until 2025 with club option to 2026 (contract signed in May 2024)
H 37 Daniel Barden (born 2.1.01, age 23): signed until 2026 (contract signed in April 2024)
HF 28 Angus Gunn (born 22.1.96, age 28): signed until 2025 (contract signed in June 2021)
Y 39 Vicente Reyes (born 19.11.03, age 20): signed until ???? and on loan to Cambridge United for the 2024/25 season (contract signed in June 2023)
H 12 George Long (born 5.11.93, age 30): signed until 2025 (contract signed in August 2023)
H 51 Caleb Ansen (born 18.9.05, age 18): signed until 2026 with club option to 2027 (contract signed in October 2023)

DEFENDERS (12)
HF 5 Grant Hanley (born 20.11.91, age 32): signed until 2025 (contract signed in July 2021)
H 50 Jaden Warner (born 28.10.02, age 21): signed until 2025 (contract signed in December 2020)
HY 45 Jonathan Tomkinson (born 11.4.02, age 22): signed until 2025 with club option to 2026 (contract signed in October 2022)
H Lewis Shipley (born 29.11.03, age 20): signed until 2025 (contract signed in December 2021)
H Brad Hills (born 10.3.04, age 20): signed until 2025 with club option to 2026 (contract signed in November 2022)

H Jack Stacey (born 6.4.96, age 28): signed until 2026 (contract signed in May 2023)
HF 24 Shane Duffy (born 1.1.92, age 32): signed until 2026 (contract signed in June 2023)
H 35 Kellen Fisher (born 5.5.04, age 20): signed until ???? (contract signed in June 2023)
49 Guilherme Montóia (born 14.9.03, age 20): signed until 2025 with club option to 2026 (contract signed in August 2023)
Emmanuel Adegboyega (born 16.9.03, age 20): signed until ???? (contract signed in August 2023)
H 48 Waylon Renecke (born 12.5.06, age 18): signed until ???? (contract signed in July 2023)
F José Córdoba (born 3.6.01, age 23): signed until 2028 (contract signed in June 2024)

MIDFIELDERS (10)
23 Kenny McLean (born 8.1.92, age 32): signed until 2026 with club option to 2027 (contract signed in September 2023)
25 Onel Hernandez 
(born 1.2.93, age 31): signed until 2025 with club option to 2026 (contract signed in April 2023)
19 Jacob Lungi Sørensen (born 3.3.98, age 26): 
signed until 2025 with club option to 2026 (contract signed in May 2024)
HY 42 Tony Springett (born 22.9.02, age 21): signed until 2026 with club option to 2027 (contract signed in October 2022)
Liam Gibbs (born 16.12.02, age 21) signed until 2028 (contract signed in July 2023)
17 Gabriel Sara (born 26.6.99, age 25): signed until 2026 with club option to 2027 (contract signed in July 2022)
26 Marcelino Núñez (born 1.3.00, age 24): signed until 2026 (contract signed in August 2022)

Borja Sainz (born 21.2.01, age 23): signed until 2026 (contract signed in June 2023)
16 Christian Fassnacht (born 11.11.93, age 30): signed until 2025 with club option to 2026 (contract signed in July 2023)
43 Finley Welch (born 3.10.04, age 19): signed until 2026 with club option to 2027 (contract signed in October 2023)

FORWARDS (6)
HF 11 Adam Idah (born 11.2.01, age 23): signed until 2028 (contract signed in February 2023)
Josh Sargent (born 20.2.00, age 24): signed until 2028 (contract signed in October 2023)
HY 27 Jonathan Rowe (born 30.4.03, age 21): signed until 2025 with club option to 2026 (contract signed in January 2022)
Abu Kamara (born 21.7.03, age 20), signed until 2025  (contract signed in October 2021)
10 Ashley Barnes (born 30.10.89, age 34), signed until 2025 (contract signed in May 2023)
44 Ken Aboh (born 9.11.04, age 19): signed until 2027 with club option to 2028 (contract signed in July 2024)

Finally, here are all the squad members listed by year of contract expiry, with (+1) indicating we have the option of an extra year:

2025 Gunn, Hanley, Rowe (+1), Warner, Tomkinson (+1), Kamara (+1), Shipley, Hills (+1), Hernandez (+1), Barnes, Fassnacht (+1), Montóia (+1), Long, Sørensen (+1), Mair (+1) (15 players, 9 with an extra year)
2026 
Sara (+1), Núñez, Springett (+1), Stacey, Duffy, Sainz, McLean (+1), Welch (+1), Barden, Ansen (+1) (10 players, 5 with an extra year)
2027 Aboh (+1) (1 player, 1 with an extra year)
2028 Idah, Gibbs, Sargent, Córdoba (4 players)
Unknown 
Reyes, Adegboyega, Fisher, Renecke (4 players)

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On 02/07/2024 at 14:13, Feedthewolf said:

Finally, here are all the squad members listed by year of contract expiry, with (+1) indicating we have the option of an extra year:

2025 Gunn, Hanley, Rowe (+1), Warner, Tomkinson (+1), Kamara (+1), Shipley, Hills (+1), Hernandez (+1), Barnes, Fassnacht (+1), Montóia (+1), Long, Sørensen (+1), Mair (+1) (15 players, 9 with an extra year)
2026 
Sara (+1), Núñez, Springett (+1), Stacey, Duffy, Sainz, McLean (+1), Welch (+1), Barden, Ansen (+1) (10 players, 5 with an extra year)
2027 Aboh (+1) (1 player, 1 with an extra year)
2028 Idah, Gibbs, Sargent, Córdoba (4 players)
Unknown 
Reyes, Adegboyega, Fisher, Renecke (4 players)

More changes to the above, according to @PinkOn.

Fisher - 2027 (is transfermarkt the source of this?)

Kamara and Barnes (🤣  ) both have +1 options on their 2025-ending deals (again, transfermarkt echoes the latter)

 

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1 minute ago, NewNestCarrow said:

More changes to the above, according to @PinkOn.

Fisher - 2027 (is transfermarkt the source of this?)

Kamara and Barnes (🤣  ) both have +1 options on their 2025-ending deals (again, transfermarkt echoes the latter)

Thanks as ever for your vigilance. I'll update this in a bit, as well as adding Lucien Mahovo... although why we've signed another young centre-back is beyond me! He says in his interview that he can play as a DM, so it's only a matter of time until someone labels him 'the new Ben Godfrey... 😉

 

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1 minute ago, Feedthewolf said:

Thanks as ever for your vigilance. I'll update this in a bit, as well as adding Lucien Mahovo... although why we've signed another young centre-back is beyond me! He says in his interview that he can play as a DM, so it's only a matter of time until someone labels him 'the new Ben Godfrey... 😉

 

I'd be inclined to subdivide into two categories:  'as announced' and 'other sources'  😄

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38 minutes ago, Feedthewolf said:

Thanks as ever for your vigilance. I'll update this in a bit, as well as adding Lucien Mahovo... although why we've signed another young centre-back is beyond me! He says in his interview that he can play as a DM, so it's only a matter of time until someone labels him 'the new Ben Godfrey... 😉

 

I thought he is a left back?

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