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Reyes out on loan, missed that when it was originally announced. Highly likely that we'll be seeing some youth players by the end of the season, as there are 20 players in a matchday squad and we only have 22 senior pros by my count – and Duffy and Rowe are both injured.

GK: Gunn/Long
RB: Stacey/Fisher
LB: Giannoulis/McCallum
CB: Hanley/Gibson/Batth (Duffy injured)
DM: McLean/Sorensen/Nunez/Gibbs
Wingers: Fassnacht/Hernandez/Sainz (Rowe injured)
10s: Sara/Barnes
FW: Sargent/SVH

GOALKEEPERS (7, 4 out on loan)
Archie Mair (born 10.2.01, age 23): signed until 2024 and on loan to Morecambe for 2023/24 season (contract signed in March 2021)
HY 37 Daniel Barden (born 2.1.01, age 23): signed until 2024 (contract signed in March 2021)
H Joe Rose (born 5.11.01, age 22): signed until 2024 with club option to 2025 and on loan to Cheshunt for 2023/24 season (contract signed in June 2023)
H 38 Jon McCracken (born 24.5.00, age 23): signed until 2024 and on loan to Dundee for 2023/24 season (contract signed in February 2022)
HF 28 Angus Gunn (born 22.1.96, age 28): signed until 2025 (contract signed in June 2021)
Y 39 Vicente Reyes (born 19.11.03, age 20): signed until ???? and on loan to Forest Green Rovers for 2023/24 season (contract signed in June 2023)
12 George Long (born 5.11.93, age 30): signed until 2025 (contract signed in August 2023)

DEFENDERS (13, 4 out on loan)
H
 15 Sam McCallum (born 2.9.00, age 23): signed until 2024 (contract signed in January 2020)
HF 5 Grant Hanley (born 20.11.91, age 32): signed until 2025 (contract signed in July 2021)
H Ben Gibson (born 15.1.93, age 31): signed until 2024 (contract signed in July 2021)
H 
50 Jaden Warner (born 28.10.02, age 21): signed until 2025 and on loan to Notts County for 2023/24 season (contract signed in December 2020)
30 Dimitris Giannoulis (born 17.10.95, age 28): signed until 2024 (contract signed in July 2021)
45 Jonathan Tomkinson (born 11.4.02, age 21): signed until 2025 with club option to 2026 and on loan to Bradford City for 2023/24 season (contract signed in October 2022)
H Lewis Shipley (born 29.11.03, age 20): signed until 2025 and on loan to Accrington Stanley for 2023/24 season (contract signed in December 2021)
H Brad Hills (born 10.3.04, age 19): signed until 2025 with club option to 2026 and on loan to Accrington Stanley for 2023/24 season (contract signed in November 2022)

H Jack Stacey (born 6.4.96, age 27): signed until 2026 (contract signed in May 2023)
HF 24 Shane Duffy inj (born 1.1.92, age 32): signed until 2026 (contract signed in June 2023)
H 35 Kellen Fisher (born 5.5.04, age 19): signed until ???? (contract signed in June 2023)
Guilherme Montóia (born 14.9.03, age 20): signed until 2025 with club option to 2026 (contract signed in August 2023)
H 21 Danny Batth (born 21.9.90, age 33): signed until 2024 with club option to 2025 (contract signed in August 2023)

MIDFIELDERS (12, 2 out on loan)
23 Kenny McLean (born 8.1.92, age 32): signed until 2026 with club option to 2027 (contract signed in September 2023)
25 Onel Hernandez (born 1.2.93, age 31): signed until 2025 with club option to 2026 (contract signed in April 2023)
19 Jacob Lungi Sørensen (born 3.3.98, age 25): signed until 2024 with club option to 2025 (contract signed in July 2021)
42 Tony Springett (born 22.9.02, age 21): signed until 2026 with club option to 2027 and on loan to Northampton Town for 2023/24 season (contract signed in October 2022)
Liam Gibbs (born 16.12.02, age 21) signed until 2028 (contract signed in July 2023)
17 Gabriel Sara (born 26.6.99, age 24): signed until 2026 with club option to 2027 (contract signed in July 2022)
26 Marcelino Núñez (born 1.3.00, age 23): signed until 2026 (contract signed in August 2022)
H Regan Riley (born 12.11.02, age 21) signed until 2024 with club option to 2025 (contract signed in February 2021)
HY Flynn Clarke (born 19.12.02, age 21) signed until 2024 with club option to 2025 and on loan to Sçunthorpe United for 2023/24 season (contract signed in June 2021)
Borja Sainz (born 21.2.01, age 22): signed until 2026 (contract signed in June 2023)
16 Christian Fassnacht (born 11.11.93, age 30): signed until 2025 with club option to 2026 (contract signed in July 2023)
Pedro Lima (born 27.3.03, age 20): signed on loan from Palmeiras until 2024 (contract signed in August 2023)

FORWARDS (8, 3 out on loan)
HF 11 Adam Idah (born 11.2.01, age 23): signed until 2028 and on loan to Celtic for 2023/24 season (contract signed in February 2023)
Josh Sargent (born 20.2.00, age 23): signed until 2028 (contract signed in October 2023)
18 Christos Tzolis (born 30.1.02, age 22): signed until 2026 and on loan to Fortuna Düsseldorf for 2023/24 season (contract signed in August 2021)
H 27 Jonathan Rowe inj (born 30.4.03, age 20): signed until 2025 with club option to 2026 (contract signed in January 2022)
Abu Kamara (born 21.7.03, age 20), signed until 2025 and on loan to Portsmouth for 2023/24 season (contract signed in October 2021)
10 Ashley Barnes (born 30.10.89, age 34), signed until 2025 (contract signed in May 2023)
Daniel Ogwuru (born 8.9.04, age 19): signed until ???? (contract signed in August 2023)
14 Sydney van Hooijdonk (born 6.2.00, age 24), signed on loan from Bologna until 2024 (contract signed in February 2024)

Finally, here are all the squad members listed by year of contract expiry, with (+1) indicating we have the option of an extra year:

2024 McCallum, Mair, Barden (+1), Gibson, Giannoulis, Sørensen (+1), McCracken, Rose (+1), Riley (+1), Lima (loan), Batth (+1), van Hooijdonk (loan) (10 players, 6 with an extra year)
2025 Gunn, Hanley, Rowe (+1), Warner, Tomkinson (+1), Kamara, Shipley, Hills (+1), Clarke (+1) Hernandez (+1), Barnes, Fassnacht (+1), Montóia (+1), Long (14 players, 7 with an extra year)
2026 
Tzolis, Sara (+1), Núñez, Springett (+1), Stacey, Duffy, Sainz, McLean (+1) (7 players, 3 with an extra year)
2028 
Idah, Gibbs, Sargent (3 players)
???? Fisher, Reyes, Ogwuru (3 players)

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I've added Aboh and Welch to the squad (even though it looks like Aboh will be on his way in the summer). Also updated injuries and suspensions.

GOALKEEPERS (7, 4 out on loan)
Archie Mair (born 10.2.01, age 23): signed until 2024 and on loan to Morecambe for 2023/24 season (contract signed in March 2021)
HY 37 Daniel Barden (born 2.1.01, age 23): signed until 2024 (contract signed in March 2021)
H Joe Rose (born 5.11.01, age 22): signed until 2024 with club option to 2025 (contract signed in June 2023)
H 38 Jon McCracken (born 24.5.00, age 23): signed until 2024 and on loan to Dundee for 2023/24 season (contract signed in February 2022)
HF 28 Angus Gunn (born 22.1.96, age 28): signed until 2025 (contract signed in June 2021)
Y 39 Vicente Reyes (born 19.11.03, age 20): signed until ???? and on loan to Forest Green Rovers for 2023/24 season (contract signed in June 2023)
12 George Long (born 5.11.93, age 30): signed until 2025 (contract signed in August 2023)

DEFENDERS (13, 4 out on loan)
H
 15 Sam McCallum (born 2.9.00, age 23): signed until 2024 (contract signed in January 2020)
HF 5 Grant Hanley (born 20.11.91, age 32): signed until 2025 (contract signed in July 2021)
H Ben Gibson (born 15.1.93, age 31): signed until 2024 (contract signed in July 2021)
H 
50 Jaden Warner (born 28.10.02, age 21): signed until 2025 and on loan to Notts County for 2023/24 season (contract signed in December 2020)
30 Dimitris Giannoulis (born 17.10.95, age 28): signed until 2024 (contract signed in July 2021)
45 Jonathan Tomkinson (born 11.4.02, age 21): signed until 2025 with club option to 2026 and on loan to Bradford City for 2023/24 season (contract signed in October 2022)
H Lewis Shipley (born 29.11.03, age 20): signed until 2025 and on loan to Accrington Stanley for 2023/24 season (contract signed in December 2021)
H Brad Hills (born 10.3.04, age 19): signed until 2025 with club option to 2026 and on loan to Accrington Stanley for 2023/24 season (contract signed in November 2022)

H Jack Stacey (born 6.4.96, age 27): signed until 2026 (contract signed in May 2023)
HF 24 Shane Duffy inj (born 1.1.92, age 32): signed until 2026 (contract signed in June 2023)
H 35 Kellen Fisher (born 5.5.04, age 19): signed until ???? (contract signed in June 2023)
Guilherme Montóia (born 14.9.03, age 20): signed until 2025 with club option to 2026 (contract signed in August 2023)
H 21 Danny Batth (born 21.9.90, age 33): signed until 2024 with club option to 2025 (contract signed in August 2023)

MIDFIELDERS (13, 2 out on loan)
23 Kenny McLean (born 8.1.92, age 32): signed until 2026 with club option to 2027 (contract signed in September 2023)
25 Onel Hernandez 
inj (born 1.2.93, age 31): signed until 2025 with club option to 2026 (contract signed in April 2023)
19 Jacob Lungi Sørensen (born 3.3.98, age 25): signed until 2024 with club option to 2025 (contract signed in July 2021)
42 Tony Springett (born 22.9.02, age 21): signed until 2026 with club option to 2027 and on loan to Northampton Town for 2023/24 season (contract signed in October 2022)
Liam Gibbs (born 16.12.02, age 21) signed until 2028 (contract signed in July 2023)
17 Gabriel Sara (born 26.6.99, age 24): signed until 2026 with club option to 2027 (contract signed in July 2022)
26 Marcelino Núñez (born 1.3.00, age 23): signed until 2026 (contract signed in August 2022)
H Regan Riley (born 12.11.02, age 21) signed until 2024 with club option to 2025 (contract signed in February 2021)
HY Flynn Clarke (born 19.12.02, age 21) signed until 2024 with club option to 2025 and on loan to Sçunthorpe United for 2023/24 season (contract signed in June 2021)
Borja Sainz
sus (born 21.2.01, age 22): signed until 2026 (contract signed in June 2023)
16 Christian Fassnacht (born 11.11.93, age 30): signed until 2025 with club option to 2026 (contract signed in July 2023)
Pedro Lima (born 27.3.03, age 20): signed on loan from Palmeiras until 2024 (contract signed in August 2023)
43 Finley Welch 
(born 3.10.04, age 19): signed until 2026 with club option to 2027 (contract signed in October 2023)

FORWARDS (8, 3 out on loan)
HF 11 Adam Idah (born 11.2.01, age 23): signed until 2028 and on loan to Celtic for 2023/24 season (contract signed in February 2023)
Josh Sargent (born 20.2.00, age 23): signed until 2028 (contract signed in October 2023)
18 Christos Tzolis (born 30.1.02, age 22): signed until 2026 and on loan to Fortuna Düsseldorf for 2023/24 season (contract signed in August 2021)
H 27 Jonathan Rowe inj (born 30.4.03, age 20): signed until 2025 with club option to 2026 (contract signed in January 2022)
Abu Kamara (born 21.7.03, age 20), signed until 2025 and on loan to Portsmouth for 2023/24 season (contract signed in October 2021)
10 Ashley Barnes (born 30.10.89, age 34), signed until 2025 (contract signed in May 2023)
14 Sydney van Hooijdonk (born 6.2.00, age 24), signed on loan from Bologna until 2024 (contract signed in February 2024)
44 Ken Aboh (born 9.11.04, age 19): signed until 2024 (contract signed in December 2021)

Finally, here are all the squad members listed by year of contract expiry, with (+1) indicating we have the option of an extra year:

2024 McCallum, Mair, Barden (+1), Gibson, Giannoulis, Sørensen (+1), McCracken, Rose (+1), Riley (+1), Lima (loan), Batth (+1), van Hooijdonk (loan), Aboh (13 players, 6 with an extra year)
2025 Gunn, Hanley, Rowe (+1), Warner, Tomkinson (+1), Kamara, Shipley, Hills (+1), Clarke (+1) Hernandez (+1), Barnes, Fassnacht (+1), Montóia (+1), Long (14 players, 7 with an extra year)
2026 
Tzolis, Sara (+1), Núñez, Springett (+1), Stacey, Duffy, Sainz, McLean (+1), Welch (+1), Reyes* (10 players, 4 with an extra year)
2027 
Fisher* (1 player) 
2028 Idah, Gibbs, Sargent (3 players)

*Contract expiry date from Transfermarkt, not verified by club

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I’m a bit frustrated by Wagners recent treatment of McCullum. I think he’s looked genuinely promising in some of his recent outings. And yet since he started to look good, Wagner has dropped him and is playing Dimi, another player out of contract this summer.

of the two, the one with future potential and who we would be likely to be able to keep is Sam so I really don’t understand what Wagner is doing in this area. 

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45 minutes ago, Jim Smith said:

I’m a bit frustrated by Wagners recent treatment of McCullum. I think he’s looked genuinely promising in some of his recent outings. And yet since he started to look good, Wagner has dropped him and is playing Dimi, another player out of contract this summer.

of the two, the one with future potential and who we would be likely to be able to keep is Sam so I really don’t understand what Wagner is doing in this area. 

Dimi once again showed what a liability he is in defence - culpable for poor play and positioning in all 3 goals. If Sainz is banned, perhaps play him further up with Sam in his natural position.

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1 hour ago, Jim Smith said:

I’m a bit frustrated by Wagners recent treatment of McCullum. I think he’s looked genuinely promising in some of his recent outings. And yet since he started to look good, Wagner has dropped him and is playing Dimi, another player out of contract this summer.

of the two, the one with future potential and who we would be likely to be able to keep is Sam so I really don’t understand what Wagner is doing in this area. 

There's definitely raw potential there, but he's not a kid any more, he's 23 now. While he has made some valuable contributions both defensively and offensively, one of my lasting and recurring images of McCallum is getting caught in possession and/or isolated up the field, and then jogging back lazily while midfielders accelerate past him. Not a good look, and probably a factor in him not getting starts (and, presumably, not being offered a new contract).

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Possible update:  Joe Rose does not appear to have played for Cheshunt since early Feb and, around that time,  they signed a young 1p5wich GK on loan who is playing every week.

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12 hours ago, NewNestCarrow said:

Possible update:  Joe Rose does not appear to have played for Cheshunt since early Feb and, around that time,  they signed a young 1p5wich GK on loan who is playing every week.

Thanks for that – really appreciate your attention to detail on these matters!

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Just a few updates to injuries and birthdays.

GOALKEEPERS (7, 4 out on loan)
Archie Mair (born 10.2.01, age 23): signed until 2024 and on loan to Morecambe for 2023/24 season (contract signed in March 2021)
HY 37 Daniel Barden (born 2.1.01, age 23): signed until 2024 (contract signed in March 2021)
H Joe Rose (born 5.11.01, age 22): signed until 2024 with club option to 2025 (contract signed in June 2023)
H 38 Jon McCracken (born 24.5.00, age 23): signed until 2024 and on loan to Dundee for 2023/24 season (contract signed in February 2022)
HF 28 Angus Gunn (born 22.1.96, age 28): signed until 2025 (contract signed in June 2021)
Y 39 Vicente Reyes (born 19.11.03, age 20): signed until ???? and on loan to Forest Green Rovers for 2023/24 season (contract signed in June 2023)
12 George Long (born 5.11.93, age 30): signed until 2025 (contract signed in August 2023)

DEFENDERS (13, 4 out on loan)
H
 15 Sam McCallum (born 2.9.00, age 23): signed until 2024 (contract signed in January 2020)
HF 5 Grant Hanley inj (born 20.11.91, age 32): signed until 2025 (contract signed in July 2021)
H Ben Gibson (born 15.1.93, age 31): signed until 2024 (contract signed in July 2021)
H 
50 Jaden Warner (born 28.10.02, age 21): signed until 2025 and on loan to Notts County for 2023/24 season (contract signed in December 2020)
30 Dimitris Giannoulis inj (born 17.10.95, age 28): signed until 2024 (contract signed in July 2021)
45 Jonathan Tomkinson (born 11.4.02, age 22): signed until 2025 with club option to 2026 and on loan to Bradford City for 2023/24 season (contract signed in October 2022)
H Lewis Shipley (born 29.11.03, age 20): signed until 2025 and on loan to Accrington Stanley for 2023/24 season (contract signed in December 2021)
H Brad Hills (born 10.3.04, age 20): signed until 2025 with club option to 2026 and on loan to Accrington Stanley for 2023/24 season (contract signed in November 2022)

H Jack Stacey (born 6.4.96, age 28😞 signed until 2026 (contract signed in May 2023)
HF 24 Shane Duffy (born 1.1.92, age 32): signed until 2026 (contract signed in June 2023)
H 35 Kellen Fisher (born 5.5.04, age 19): signed until ???? (contract signed in June 2023)
49 Guilherme Montóia (born 14.9.03, age 20): signed until 2025 with club option to 2026 (contract signed in August 2023)
H 21 Danny Batth (born 21.9.90, age 33): signed until 2024 with club option to 2025 (contract signed in August 2023)

MIDFIELDERS (13, 2 out on loan)
23 Kenny McLean (born 8.1.92, age 32): signed until 2026 with club option to 2027 (contract signed in September 2023)
25 Onel Hernandez 
inj (born 1.2.93, age 31): signed until 2025 with club option to 2026 (contract signed in April 2023)
19 Jacob Lungi Sørensen
 inj (born 3.3.98, age 26): signed until 2024 with club option to 2025 (contract signed in July 2021)
42 Tony Springett (born 22.9.02, age 21): signed until 2026 with club option to 2027 and on loan to Northampton Town for 2023/24 season (contract signed in October 2022)
Liam Gibbs
 inj (born 16.12.02, age 21) signed until 2028 (contract signed in July 2023)
17 Gabriel Sara (born 26.6.99, age 24): signed until 2026 with club option to 2027 (contract signed in July 2022)
26 Marcelino Núñez (born 1.3.00, age 24): signed until 2026 (contract signed in August 2022)
H Regan Riley (born 12.11.02, age 21) signed until 2024 with club option to 2025 (contract signed in February 2021)
HY Flynn Clarke (born 19.12.02, age 21) signed until 2024 with club option to 2025 and on loan to Sçunthorpe United for 2023/24 season (contract signed in June 2021)
Borja Sainz 
(born 21.2.01, age 23): signed until 2026 (contract signed in June 2023)
16 Christian Fassnacht (born 11.11.93, age 30): signed until 2025 with club option to 2026 (contract signed in July 2023)
Pedro Lima (born 27.3.03, age 21): signed on loan from Palmeiras until 2024 (contract signed in August 2023)
43 Finley Welch 
(born 3.10.04, age 19): signed until 2026 with club option to 2027 (contract signed in October 2023)

FORWARDS (8, 3 out on loan)
HF 11 Adam Idah (born 11.2.01, age 23): signed until 2028 and on loan to Celtic for 2023/24 season (contract signed in February 2023)
Josh Sargent inj (born 20.2.00, age 24): signed until 2028 (contract signed in October 2023)
18 Christos Tzolis (born 30.1.02, age 22): signed until 2026 and on loan to Fortuna Düsseldorf for 2023/24 season (contract signed in August 2021)
H 27 Jonathan Rowe inj (born 30.4.03, age 20): signed until 2025 with club option to 2026 (contract signed in January 2022)
Abu Kamara (born 21.7.03, age 20), signed until 2025 and on loan to Portsmouth for 2023/24 season (contract signed in October 2021)
10 Ashley Barnes (born 30.10.89, age 34), signed until 2025 (contract signed in May 2023)
14 Sydney van Hooijdonk (born 6.2.00, age 24), signed on loan from Bologna until 2024 (contract signed in February 2024)
44 Ken Aboh (born 9.11.04, age 19): signed until 2024 (contract signed in December 2021)

Finally, here are all the squad members listed by year of contract expiry, with (+1) indicating we have the option of an extra year:

2024 McCallum, Mair, Barden (+1), Gibson, Giannoulis, Sørensen (+1), McCracken, Rose (+1), Riley (+1), Lima (loan), Batth (+1), van Hooijdonk (loan), Aboh (13 players, 6 with an extra year)
2025 Gunn, Hanley, Rowe (+1), Warner, Tomkinson (+1), Kamara, Shipley, Hills (+1), Clarke (+1) Hernandez (+1), Barnes, Fassnacht (+1), Montóia (+1), Long (14 players, 7 with an extra year)
2026 
Tzolis, Sara (+1), Núñez, Springett (+1), Stacey, Duffy, Sainz, McLean (+1), Welch (+1), Reyes* (10 players, 4 with an extra year)
2027 
Fisher* (1 player) 
2028 Idah, Gibbs, Sargent (3 players)

*Contract expiry date from Transfermarkt, not verified by club

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On 19/01/2024 at 20:44, Indy said:

TBH quality, not quantity! Barnes when signed was excellent, but has gone downhill so quickly! Looks an old man desperate for a fight rather than playing footy! Idah still hasn’t come anywhere near his potential so here we are relying on Sargent coming back from injury! Certainly need a good loan up front!

As for CB Baath utterly useless, Hanley injured, Gibson really poor form as a result we’re playing McClean as CB! Yes we do need to seriously develop one of our young CB’s or buy, not bothered so much but quality is really questionable again!

Gibson really poor form.  Do you know where Carrow Road is - do you actually watch .  Has been the outstanding defender game after game for most of this year . 

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Interesting to see the comments from January. I have to say Gibson has improved, but still very indecisive 

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6 minutes ago, Harry53 said:

Interesting to see the comments from January. I have to say Gibson has improved, but still very indecisive 

Really . Try playing CB in this team with Dimi or McCallum on one side of you and whoever gets pulled out of the hat on the other side . If he leaves this summer he will leave a big hole in our defence . Seems to be continually punished and bad mouthed for previous perceived sins . Good job Dimi , McCallum , Duffy and Hanley never made a mistake. 

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1 hour ago, Branston said:

Gibson really poor form.  Do you know where Carrow Road is - do you actually watch .  Has been the outstanding defender game after game for most of this year . 

Really! He’s improved over the past couple months but not outstanding by any stretch! Additionally you’re quoting from ten weeks ago when he was very poor! 

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New contract for Barden, injuries and birthdays updated.

GOALKEEPERS (7, 4 out on loan)
Archie Mair (born 10.2.01, age 23): signed until 2024 and on loan to Morecambe for 2023/24 season (contract signed in March 2021)
HY 37 Daniel Barden (born 2.1.01, age 23): signed until 2026 (contract signed in April 2024)
H Joe Rose (born 5.11.01, age 22): signed until 2024 with club option to 2025 (contract signed in June 2023)
H 38 Jon McCracken (born 24.5.00, age 24): signed until 2024 and on loan to Dundee for 2023/24 season (contract signed in February 2022)
HF 28 Angus Gunn (born 22.1.96, age 28): signed until 2025 (contract signed in June 2021)
Y 39 Vicente Reyes (born 19.11.03, age 20): signed until ???? and on loan to Forest Green Rovers for 2023/24 season (contract signed in June 2023)
12 George Long (born 5.11.93, age 30): signed until 2025 (contract signed in August 2023)

DEFENDERS (13, 4 out on loan)
H
 15 Sam McCallum (born 2.9.00, age 23): signed until 2024 (contract signed in January 2020)
HF 5 Grant Hanley (born 20.11.91, age 32): signed until 2025 (contract signed in July 2021)
H Ben Gibson (born 15.1.93, age 31): signed until 2024 (contract signed in July 2021)
H 
50 Jaden Warner (born 28.10.02, age 21): signed until 2025 and on loan to Notts County for 2023/24 season (contract signed in December 2020)
30 Dimitris Giannoulis inj (born 17.10.95, age 28): signed until 2024 (contract signed in July 2021)
45 Jonathan Tomkinson (born 11.4.02, age 22): signed until 2025 with club option to 2026 and on loan to Bradford City for 2023/24 season (contract signed in October 2022)
H Lewis Shipley (born 29.11.03, age 20): signed until 2025 and on loan to Accrington Stanley for 2023/24 season (contract signed in December 2021)
H Brad Hills (born 10.3.04, age 20): signed until 2025 with club option to 2026 and on loan to Accrington Stanley for 2023/24 season (contract signed in November 2022)

H Jack Stacey (born 6.4.96, age 28): signed until 2026 (contract signed in May 2023)
HF 24 Shane Duffy (born 1.1.92, age 32): signed until 2026 (contract signed in June 2023)
H 35 Kellen Fisher (born 5.5.04, age 19): signed until ???? (contract signed in June 2023)
49 Guilherme Montóia (born 14.9.03, age 20): signed until 2025 with club option to 2026 (contract signed in August 2023)
H 21 Danny Batth (born 21.9.90, age 33): signed until 2024 with club option to 2025 (contract signed in August 2023)

MIDFIELDERS (13, 2 out on loan)
23 Kenny McLean (born 8.1.92, age 32): signed until 2026 with club option to 2027 (contract signed in September 2023)
25 Onel Hernandez 
inj (born 1.2.93, age 31): signed until 2025 with club option to 2026 (contract signed in April 2023)
19 Jacob Lungi Sørensen 
(born 3.3.98, age 26): signed until 2024 with club option to 2025 (contract signed in July 2021)
42 Tony Springett (born 22.9.02, age 21): signed until 2026 with club option to 2027 and on loan to Northampton Town for 2023/24 season (contract signed in October 2022)
Liam Gibbs
 inj (born 16.12.02, age 21) signed until 2028 (contract signed in July 2023)
17 Gabriel Sara (born 26.6.99, age 24): signed until 2026 with club option to 2027 (contract signed in July 2022)
26 Marcelino Núñez (born 1.3.00, age 24): signed until 2026 (contract signed in August 2022)
H Regan Riley (born 12.11.02, age 21) signed until 2024 with club option to 2025 (contract signed in February 2021)
HY Flynn Clarke (born 19.12.02, age 21) signed until 2024 with club option to 2025 and on loan to Sçunthorpe United for 2023/24 season (contract signed in June 2021)
Borja Sainz 
(born 21.2.01, age 23): signed until 2026 (contract signed in June 2023)
16 Christian Fassnacht (born 11.11.93, age 30): signed until 2025 with club option to 2026 (contract signed in July 2023)
47 Pedro Lima (born 27.3.03, age 21): signed on loan from Palmeiras until 2024 (contract signed in August 2023)
43 Finley Welch 
(born 3.10.04, age 19): signed until 2026 with club option to 2027 (contract signed in October 2023)

FORWARDS (8, 3 out on loan)
HF 11 Adam Idah (born 11.2.01, age 23): signed until 2028 and on loan to Celtic for 2023/24 season (contract signed in February 2023)
Josh Sargent (born 20.2.00, age 24): signed until 2028 (contract signed in October 2023)
18 Christos Tzolis (born 30.1.02, age 22): signed until 2026 and on loan to Fortuna Düsseldorf for 2023/24 season (contract signed in August 2021)
H 27 Jonathan Rowe (born 30.4.03, age 20): signed until 2025 with club option to 2026 (contract signed in January 2022)
Abu Kamara (born 21.7.03, age 20), signed until 2025 and on loan to Portsmouth for 2023/24 season (contract signed in October 2021)
10 Ashley Barnes (born 30.10.89, age 34), signed until 2025 (contract signed in May 2023)
14 Sydney van Hooijdonk (born 6.2.00, age 24), signed on loan from Bologna until 2024 (contract signed in February 2024)
44 Ken Aboh (born 9.11.04, age 19): signed until 2024 (contract signed in December 2021)

Finally, here are all the squad members listed by year of contract expiry, with (+1) indicating we have the option of an extra year:

2024 McCallum, Mair, Gibson, Giannoulis, Sørensen (+1), McCracken, Rose (+1), Riley (+1), Lima (loan), Batth (+1), van Hooijdonk (loan), Aboh (12 players, 5 with an extra year)
2025 Gunn, Hanley, Rowe (+1), Warner, Tomkinson (+1), Kamara, Shipley, Hills (+1), Clarke (+1) Hernandez (+1), Barnes, Fassnacht (+1), Montóia (+1), Long (14 players, 7 with an extra year)
2026 
Tzolis, Sara (+1), Núñez, Springett (+1), Stacey, Duffy, Sainz, McLean (+1), Welch (+1), Reyes*, Barden (11 players, 4 with an extra year)
2027 
Fisher* (1 player) 
2028 Idah, Gibbs, Sargent (3 players)

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Right, now the football's over with, this is where it's at for the next couple of months.

Let's start wielding that axe...

GOALKEEPERS (7, 4 out on loan)
Archie Mair (born 10.2.01, age 23): signed until 2024 and on loan to Morecambe for 2023/24 season (contract signed in March 2021)
HY 37 Daniel Barden (born 2.1.01, age 23): signed until 2026 (contract signed in April 2024)
H Joe Rose (born 5.11.01, age 22): signed until 2024 with club option to 2025 (contract signed in June 2023)
H 38 Jon McCracken (born 24.5.00, age 23): signed until 2024 and on loan to Dundee for 2023/24 season (contract signed in February 2022)
HF 28 Angus Gunn (born 22.1.96, age 28): signed until 2025 (contract signed in June 2021)
Y 39 Vicente Reyes (born 19.11.03, age 20): signed until ???? and on loan to Forest Green Rovers for 2023/24 season (contract signed in June 2023)
12 George Long (born 5.11.93, age 30): signed until 2025 (contract signed in August 2023)

DEFENDERS (13, 4 out on loan)
H
 15 Sam McCallum (born 2.9.00, age 23): signed until 2024 (contract signed in January 2020)
HF 5 Grant Hanley (born 20.11.91, age 32): signed until 2025 (contract signed in July 2021)
H Ben Gibson (born 15.1.93, age 31): signed until 2024 (contract signed in July 2021)
H 
50 Jaden Warner (born 28.10.02, age 21): signed until 2025 and on loan to Notts County for 2023/24 season (contract signed in December 2020)
30 Dimitris Giannoulis inj (born 17.10.95, age 28): signed until 2024 (contract signed in July 2021)
45 Jonathan Tomkinson (born 11.4.02, age 22): signed until 2025 with club option to 2026 and on loan to Bradford City for 2023/24 season (contract signed in October 2022)
H Lewis Shipley (born 29.11.03, age 20): signed until 2025 and on loan to Accrington Stanley for 2023/24 season (contract signed in December 2021)
H Brad Hills (born 10.3.04, age 20): signed until 2025 with club option to 2026 and on loan to Accrington Stanley for 2023/24 season (contract signed in November 2022)

H Jack Stacey (born 6.4.96, age 28): signed until 2026 (contract signed in May 2023)
HF 24 Shane Duffy (born 1.1.92, age 32): signed until 2026 (contract signed in June 2023)
H 35 Kellen Fisher (born 5.5.04, age 20): signed until ???? (contract signed in June 2023)
49 Guilherme Montóia (born 14.9.03, age 20): signed until 2025 with club option to 2026 (contract signed in August 2023)
H 21 Danny Batth (born 21.9.90, age 33): signed until 2024 with club option to 2025 (contract signed in August 2023)

MIDFIELDERS (13, 2 out on loan)
23 Kenny McLean (born 8.1.92, age 32): signed until 2026 with club option to 2027 (contract signed in September 2023)
25 Onel Hernandez 
inj (born 1.2.93, age 31): signed until 2025 with club option to 2026 (contract signed in April 2023)
19 Jacob Lungi Sørensen 
(born 3.3.98, age 26): signed until 2024 with club option to 2025 (contract signed in July 2021)
42 Tony Springett (born 22.9.02, age 21): signed until 2026 with club option to 2027 and on loan to Northampton Town for 2023/24 season (contract signed in October 2022)
Liam Gibbs
 inj (born 16.12.02, age 21) signed until 2028 (contract signed in July 2023)
17 Gabriel Sara (born 26.6.99, age 24): signed until 2026 with club option to 2027 (contract signed in July 2022)
26 Marcelino Núñez (born 1.3.00, age 24): signed until 2026 (contract signed in August 2022)
H Regan Riley (born 12.11.02, age 21) signed until 2024 with club option to 2025 (contract signed in February 2021)
HY Flynn Clarke (born 19.12.02, age 21) signed until 2024 with club option to 2025 and on loan to Sçunthorpe United for 2023/24 season (contract signed in June 2021)
Borja Sainz 
(born 21.2.01, age 23): signed until 2026 (contract signed in June 2023)
16 Christian Fassnacht (born 11.11.93, age 30): signed until 2025 with club option to 2026 (contract signed in July 2023)
47 Pedro Lima (born 27.3.03, age 21): signed on loan from Palmeiras until 2024 (contract signed in August 2023)
43 Finley Welch 
(born 3.10.04, age 19): signed until 2026 with club option to 2027 (contract signed in October 2023)

FORWARDS (8, 3 out on loan)
HF 11 Adam Idah (born 11.2.01, age 23): signed until 2028 and on loan to Celtic for 2023/24 season (contract signed in February 2023)
Josh Sargent (born 20.2.00, age 24): signed until 2028 (contract signed in October 2023)
18 Christos Tzolis (born 30.1.02, age 22): signed until 2026 and on loan to Fortuna Düsseldorf for 2023/24 season (contract signed in August 2021)
H 27 Jonathan Rowe (born 30.4.03, age 21): signed until 2025 with club option to 2026 (contract signed in January 2022)
Abu Kamara (born 21.7.03, age 20), signed until 2025 and on loan to Portsmouth for 2023/24 season (contract signed in October 2021)
10 Ashley Barnes (born 30.10.89, age 34), signed until 2025 (contract signed in May 2023)
14 Sydney van Hooijdonk (born 6.2.00, age 24), signed on loan from Bologna until 2024 (contract signed in February 2024)
44 Ken Aboh (born 9.11.04, age 19): signed until 2024 (contract signed in December 2021)

Finally, here are all the squad members listed by year of contract expiry, with (+1) indicating we have the option of an extra year:

2024 McCallum, Mair, Gibson, Giannoulis, Sørensen (+1), McCracken, Rose (+1), Riley (+1), Lima (loan), Batth (+1), van Hooijdonk (loan), Aboh (12 players, 5 with an extra year)
2025 Gunn, Hanley, Rowe (+1), Warner, Tomkinson (+1), Kamara, Shipley, Hills (+1), Clarke (+1) Hernandez (+1), Barnes, Fassnacht (+1), Montóia (+1), Long (14 players, 7 with an extra year)
2026 
Tzolis, Sara (+1), Núñez, Springett (+1), Stacey, Duffy, Sainz, McLean (+1), Welch (+1), Reyes*, Barden (11 players, 4 with an extra year)
2027 
Fisher* (1 player) 
2028 Idah, Gibbs, Sargent (3 players)

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Interesting that was probably quite a few players last game for Norwich. Certainly was Gibson and Giannoulis

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Why did Duffy get such a contract! Utterly bonkers! Probably higher wage earner and definitely won’t get him off the books!

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Just now, Wacky Waving Inflatable Arm Flailing Tube Man said:

The only one of the players out of contract this summer that I'd keep is McCallum, assuming that Aboh is already a goner.

I’d add Sorensen for utility and decent enough as a squad player in the championship.

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1 minute ago, Indy said:

I’d add Sorensen for utility and decent enough as a squad player in the championship.

Yeah, he has a club option and I see no reason not to exercise it. Good pro, versatile, decent age. No reason to get rid of him unless he's itching to go.

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4 minutes ago, Indy said:

I’d add Sorensen for utility and decent enough as a squad player in the championship.

He's a jack of all trades, master of none. I don't think he's good enough in any position to hold down a regular place, and I'd rather have round pegs in round holes.

I wouldn't be disappointed to see him stay, but I wouldn't trigger the option if I were in Knapper's position.

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His stats ie games played for us is 65 in 4 years. Not sure what his longest run playing has been but unless he has offers elsewhere, I don't think his record is in his favour, esp if he wants to renew.

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My view is any senior out of contract player who isn't an automatic choice should be released so that includes Gianoullis, Gibson & Sorensen. Add to that any young player who hasn't made a match day squad. The young keepers may have done ok on loan but we have too many keepers.

Only exceptions for me is McCallum, a cheaper option at LB with time still to develop.

We have to make space on the wage bill for recruitment.

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Just now, DanTheMan said:

My view is any senior out of contract player who isn't an automatic choice should be released so that includes Gianoullis, Gibson & Sorensen. Add to that any young player who hasn't made a match day squad. The young keepers may have done ok on loan but we have too many keepers.

Only exceptions for me is McCallum, a cheaper option at LB with time still to develop.

We have to make space on the wage bill for recruitment.

From the Chris Reeve Twitter post that's just been shared, sounds like McCallum is on his way, along with most of the others. I'd like to exercise the option of an extra year for Lungi, but other than that I'm happy for them all to leave.

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4 minutes ago, Feedthewolf said:

From the Chris Reeve Twitter post that's just been shared, sounds like McCallum is on his way, along with most of the others. I'd like to exercise the option of an extra year for Lungi, but other than that I'm happy for them all to leave.

Trouble is if we lose Sam & Jacob that’s two decent squad players who can do a good job at this level and need replacements! Do we have better in the youth ranks? Or are we going to get more Journeymen on free contracts to cover another years decline! 

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18 minutes ago, Indy said:

Trouble is if we lose Sam & Jacob that’s two decent squad players who can do a good job at this level and need replacements! Do we have better in the youth ranks? Or are we going to get more Journeymen on free contracts to cover another years decline! 

I highly doubt we'll go down that route again.

I'm guessing that we see Montoia as good enough for the backup spot, and we'll sign a new first-choice LB (just a guess, though).

As for Lungi, unless he's itching to get out of here it'd be silly to release him. Good age, good attitude, versatile and reliable. Interesting to see whether Knapper wants a specialist DM, as that was Lungi's preferred position and he's never really had a run there. Will be interesting to see whether we try to sign Pedro Lima permanently, although I think he's playing a bit further forward for the U23s.

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5 minutes ago, Feedthewolf said:

 Will be interesting to see whether we try to sign Pedro Lima permanently, although I think he's playing a bit further forward for the U23s.

Seem to recall reading that the loan was essentially a trial period for a young player earmarked to soften the departure of Sara. 

From what I've seen and heard, I reckon he was intended for the current Nunez position. However, given Wagners departure, there may not now be a Nunez position.

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2 minutes ago, Mason 47 said:

Seem to recall reading that the loan was essentially a trial period for a young player earmarked to soften the departure of Sara. 

From what I've seen and heard, I reckon he was intended for the current Nunez position. However, given Wagners departure, there may not now be a Nunez position.

Thanks for that, good insight.

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All the loans have ended now, except for Tzolis's. He's scored a hat-trick today, and Dusseldorf have got a two-legged promotion playoff to come next week. I've added Adegboyega too, although can't find any info on the length of his contract.

Based on the Pinkun article from a few hours ago, I've pre-emptively removed Batth, Giannoulis, Gibson and McCallum, plus the loan players (SVH and Lima). Have also updated Lungi's contract to next summer.

GOALKEEPERS (8)
Archie Mair (born 10.2.01, age 23): signed until 2024 (contract signed in March 2021)
HY 37 Daniel Barden (born 2.1.01, age 23): signed until 2026 (contract signed in April 2024)
H Joe Rose (born 5.11.01, age 22): signed until 2024 with club option to 2025 (contract signed in June 2023)
H 38 Jon McCracken (born 24.5.00, age 23): signed until 2024 (contract signed in February 2022)
HF 28 Angus Gunn (born 22.1.96, age 28): signed until 2025 (contract signed in June 2021)
Y 39 Vicente Reyes (born 19.11.03, age 20): signed until ???? (contract signed in June 2023)
12 George Long (born 5.11.93, age 30): signed until 2025 (contract signed in August 2023)
51 Caleb Ansen (born 18.9.05, age 18): signed until 2026 with club option to 2027 (contract signed in October 2023)

DEFENDERS (11)
HF 5 Grant Hanley (born 20.11.91, age 32): signed until 2025 (contract signed in July 2021)
H 50 Jaden Warner (born 28.10.02, age 21): signed until 2025 (contract signed in December 2020)
45 Jonathan Tomkinson (born 11.4.02, age 22): signed until 2025 with club option to 2026 (contract signed in October 2022)
H Lewis Shipley (born 29.11.03, age 20): signed until 2025 (contract signed in December 2021)
H Brad Hills (born 10.3.04, age 20): signed until 2025 with club option to 2026 (contract signed in November 2022)

H Jack Stacey (born 6.4.96, age 28): signed until 2026 (contract signed in May 2023)
HF 24 Shane Duffy (born 1.1.92, age 32): signed until 2026 (contract signed in June 2023)
H 35 Kellen Fisher (born 5.5.04, age 20): signed until ???? (contract signed in June 2023)
49 Guilherme Montóia (born 14.9.03, age 20): signed until 2025 with club option to 2026 (contract signed in August 2023)
Emmanuel Adegboyega (born 16.9.03, age 20): signed until ???? (contract signed in August 2023)
48 Waylon Renecke (born 12.5.06, age 18): signed until ???? (contract signed in July 2023)

MIDFIELDERS (12)
23 Kenny McLean (born 8.1.92, age 32): signed until 2026 with club option to 2027 (contract signed in September 2023)
25 Onel Hernandez 
inj (born 1.2.93, age 31): signed until 2025 with club option to 2026 (contract signed in April 2023)
19 Jacob Lungi Sørensen 
(born 3.3.98, age 26): signed until 2025 (contract signed in July 2021)
42 
Tony Springett (born 22.9.02, age 21): signed until 2026 with club option to 2027 (contract signed in October 2022)
Liam Gibbs inj (born 16.12.02, age 21) signed until 2028 (contract signed in July 2023)
17 Gabriel Sara (born 26.6.99, age 24): signed until 2026 with club option to 2027 (contract signed in July 2022)
26 Marcelino Núñez (born 1.3.00, age 24): signed until 2026 (contract signed in August 2022)
H Regan Riley (born 12.11.02, age 21) signed until 2024 with club option to 2025 (contract signed in February 2021)
HY 
Flynn Clarke (born 19.12.02, age 21) signed until 2024 with club option to 2025 (contract signed in June 2021)
Borja Sainz (born 21.2.01, age 23): signed until 2026 (contract signed in June 2023)
16 Christian Fassnacht (born 11.11.93, age 30): signed until 2025 with club option to 2026 (contract signed in July 2023)
43 Finley Welch (born 3.10.04, age 19): signed until 2026 with club option to 2027 (contract signed in October 2023)

FORWARDS (7, 1 out on loan)
HF 11 Adam Idah (born 11.2.01, age 23): signed until 2028 (contract signed in February 2023)
Josh Sargent (born 20.2.00, age 24): signed until 2028 (contract signed in October 2023)
18 Christos Tzolis (born 30.1.02, age 22): signed until 2026 and on loan to Fortuna Düsseldorf for 2023/24 season (contract signed in August 2021)
H 27 Jonathan Rowe (born 30.4.03, age 21): signed until 2025 with club option to 2026 (contract signed in January 2022)
Abu Kamara (born 21.7.03, age 20), signed until 2025  (contract signed in October 2021)
10 Ashley Barnes (born 30.10.89, age 34), signed until 2025 (contract signed in May 2023)
44 Ken Aboh (born 9.11.04, age 19): signed until 2024 (contract signed in December 2021)

Finally, here are all the squad members listed by year of contract expiry, with (+1) indicating we have the option of an extra year:

2024 Mair, McCracken, Rose (+1), Riley (+1), Aboh (5 players)
2025 Gunn, Hanley, Rowe (+1), Warner, Tomkinson (+1), Kamara, Shipley, Hills (+1), Clarke (+1) Hernandez (+1), Barnes, Fassnacht (+1), Montóia (+1), Long, Sørensen (15 players, 7 with an extra year)
2026 
Tzolis, Sara (+1), Núñez, Springett (+1), Stacey, Duffy, Sainz, McLean (+1), Welch (+1), Barden, Ansen (+1) (11 players, 5 with an extra year)
2028 Idah, Gibbs, Sargent (3 players)
Unknown 
Reyes, Adegboyega, Fisher, Renecke (4 players)

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