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5 minutes ago, Bethnal Yellow and Green said:

Not on the latest update! Max is 🔥🔥🔥

(Did I do that right? Need someone under 30 to verify my use of emojis). 

I started on the original game-I suppose the updates make the game a bit more realistic though.

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1 minute ago, Mr Angry said:

I started on the original game-I suppose the updates make the game a bit more realistic though.

I recently started a game for the first time in ages. With the latest update it is pretty easy to dominate the league with Norwich - which is perfect for me. 

 

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19 minutes ago, Bethnal Yellow and Green said:

Not on the latest update! Max is 🔥🔥🔥

(Did I do that right? Need someone under 30 to verify my use of emojis). 

 

16 minutes ago, king canary said:

I'm 31 but I think that works.

Would also have accepted 'Max is🙌'  or 'Max is 💯'

I'm under 30 (just) and I think they're all a load of ****.

6 minutes ago, Bethnal Yellow and Green said:

I recently started a game for the first time in ages. With the latest update it is pretty easy to dominate the league with Norwich - which is perfect for me. 

I haven't managed Norwich on the latest FM but I've noticed from the original release to the latest update that players like Buendia and Aarons go from being benchwarmers at best to regular starters who get sold on for big money pretty quickly. It seems that nearly the entire squad has been given a boost. 

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Just now, KeiranShikari said:

I've not played for years. How are players like Zim and Steipermann?

I sold Zimmermann to Shalke for £10m in the preseason - so the game must rate him. 

Stipermann has really good stats, but hasn’t performed great for me, but I don’t play with a 10. 

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Just now, KeiranShikari said:

I've not played for years. How are players like Zim and Steipermann?

If I remember correctly, I think Norwich sold Zimmermann to Wolves for about £8m in the first January (2019) on the way to promotion. Stiepermann's season mirrored real life. Farke was sacked about October/November though and Lee Johnson led the revival. 

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Last time I played Football Manager, Michael Foulger ended up taking over from Delia and sold Luc Castaignos from underneath me for £40 million. Won the Champions League a couple of times with Norwich because Khouma Babacar was insanely good. Neither of them were that good in real life.

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6 minutes ago, Icecream Snow said:

Last time I played Football Manager, Michael Foulger ended up taking over from Delia and sold Luc Castaignos from underneath me for £40 million. Won the Champions League a couple of times with Norwich because Khouma Babacar was insanely good. Neither of them were that good in real life.

I'm still playing FM17 (the newer versions make my laptop explode even on 2D) and Babacar was insane for me on that. 

Didn't really like playing as Norwich on that version though as I wanted to sell all the real life deadwood that the game rated like Mulumbu, Bassong and Naismith.

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Anyway, back to the real world......Passlack was maybe fourth in line to start with last season, but if it hadn't been for Aarons' emergence, he might have got more starts as we realised Marshall and Pinto were not going to make the grade.  So he may have been a bit unfortunate - and Aarons was injury free which was great, but didn't help Passlack. 

Would he come back? Well, he knows what is required and has a season of knowing the club and the players, so it would not be stupid to think he might want to come and give it another go, especially as we are in the PL.  Would we want him? Yes, for the same reasons - he knows what is required and is assimilated in the system and with Marshall and Pinto out of the picture we need back up/competetion for Aarons.

So for the above reasons, yes, get him back.

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8 minutes ago, lake district canary said:

Anyway, back to the real world......Passlack was maybe fourth in line to start with last season, but if it hadn't been for Aarons' emergence, he might have got more starts as we realised Marshall and Pinto were not going to make the grade.  So he may have been a bit unfortunate - and Aarons was injury free which was great, but didn't help Passlack. 

I'd go along with this. Despite the fact he hadn't played a minute by the time of Aarons' arrival in the first team, I think that had Aarons not emerged the way he did or had he got injured then Passlack may well have been the starting right-back long term. As a 20-year-old brought in from abroad, he was probably being given time to acclimatise, a bit like Buendia, who wasn't firing on all cylinders straight away (although he had a disrupted pre-season due to his missus giving birth in August).

But saying that, would I bring him back? I'm not fully convinced. OK, he knows the system, but I'm sure Webber and co. have other targets on the shortlist ahead of Passlack. That's assuming he'd even want to come back to be second fiddle to Aarons again when he needs to be playing regular football, which I doubt.

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There weren't exactly many games before Aarons started and stamped his authority on the position though. It's not unreasonable to think that Farke was always planning to let Passlack acclimatise, for lack of a better word, before giving him his chance in the first team.

 

 

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37 minutes ago, KeiranShikari said:

There weren't exactly many games before Aarons started and stamped his authority on the position though. It's not unreasonable to think that Farke was always planning to let Passlack acclimatise, for lack of a better word, before giving him his chance in the first team.


The cup games and specifically the Cardiff game were the times Aarons cemented his place as a first teamer.  Passlack played right back and Aarons at left back in the first two, so it is fairly clear that Passlack was ahead of Aarons in the thinking at right back at the start of the season.

Passlack did ok in both games but Aarons was exceptional, especially against Cardiff - and the rest is history.  Passlack continued to  play right back in the cup games and again did ok in all of them, although played further forwards in one game, Bnmth, I think.  So to say he wasn't up to it is unfair - he simply was effectively shut out by the form of Aarons.

It would not surprise me if he was to come back and I would welcome him returning on the basis that he knows us and we know him and that if both parties want it to happen it must be a good thing.

 

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1 hour ago, KeiranShikari said:

There weren't exactly many games before Aarons started and stamped his authority on the position though. It's not unreasonable to think that Farke was always planning to let Passlack acclimatise, for lack of a better word, before giving him his chance in the first team.

 

 

And yet he couldn't even make the bench when Lewis was injured over Pinto.

You'd think if he's the talent some make him out to be he'd have actually made the remotest impact. 

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OK so I might have said it wrongly, Passalack came with a potential which wasn’t for a number of reasons he didn’t make the required impact.

I don’t play FM or other computer games, find them all a little boring to be honest so wouldn’t know.

But as Lakey, I’d have him back, I don’t think he’s a bad player and still young, not to mention he’s already been here, acclimatised to our club and wouldn’t need to settle in.

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15 minutes ago, Jobsworth Canary said:

Stunning WAG would have him back like a shot 

You want Raging Perverts Thread. 😁

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Talking of Marshall, is he still on our books? Can’t remember if we sold him or he just went out on loan?

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Thank you. Wonder if he will work his way into Farke’s plans.

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15 hours ago, king canary said:

And yet he couldn't even make the bench when Lewis was injured over Pinto.

You'd think if he's the talent some make him out to be he'd have actually made the remotest impact. 

If I remember rightly, Passlack was one of those that was behind the others in preseason training, and so had to play catch up initially.

Out of interest, KC, were you part of the small amount of people that saw him against Bournemouth last season? 

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49 minutes ago, Alex Moss said:

If I remember rightly, Passlack was one of those that was behind the others in preseason training, and so had to play catch up initially.

Out of interest, KC, were you part of the small amount of people that saw him against Bournemouth last season? 

I wasn't. I was part of the larger group who never saw him as he never did enough to get on the pitch...

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2 minutes ago, king canary said:

I wasn't. I was part of the larger group who never saw him as he never did enough to get on the pitch...

Haha, I have to say that I watched him at Bournemouth and thought Passlack was one of the best players on the pitch that day, he has great technique. He really really impressed me, and I have no doubt that should he get that run then he’d slot in comfortably. He’s no Ali Dia, Passlack can definitely play mate, it’d be one hell of an accident to come through Dortmund’s set up and represent Germany at all levels bar the seniors. I hope we bring him back 👍

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27 minutes ago, Alex Moss said:

Haha, I have to say that I watched him at Bournemouth and thought Passlack was one of the best players on the pitch that day, he has great technique. He really really impressed me, and I have no doubt that should he get that run then he’d slot in comfortably. He’s no Ali Dia, Passlack can definitely play mate, it’d be one hell of an accident to come through Dortmund’s set up and represent Germany at all levels bar the seniors. I hope we bring him back 👍

I just look at the evidence in front of me with Passlack.

The right back place was up for grabs at the start of this season yet we saw...

A right midfielder who got loaned out after 6 months preferred ahead of him to start the season.

Then an out of favour Pinto preferred.

Then a 19 year old with no first team experience preferred.

6 league minutes in total and not in the preferred 18 almost all season, following on from a season elsewhere where he failed to make any impact.

Football is littered with prospects who came through big clubs and played at international youth level but not made it at top level.

He made next to no impact and the competition will only get harder this season. He may turn out to be good but I think if Farke liked him as much as people think he'd have at least been getting minutes off the bench last season. 

I'm not suggesting he's Ali Dia- just that he isn't someone I'd want playing for us in the Premier League.

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5 minutes ago, king canary said:

I just look at the evidence in front of me with Passlack.

The right back place was up for grabs at the start of this season yet we saw...

A right midfielder who got loaned out after 6 months preferred ahead of him to start the season.

Then an out of favour Pinto preferred.

Then a 19 year old with no first team experience preferred.

6 league minutes in total and not in the preferred 18 almost all season, following on from a season elsewhere where he failed to make any impact.

Football is littered with prospects who came through big clubs and played at international youth level but not made it at top level.

He made next to no impact and the competition will only get harder this season. He may turn out to be good but I think if Farke liked him as much as people think he'd have at least been getting minutes off the bench last season. 

I'm not suggesting he's Ali Dia- just that he isn't someone I'd want playing for us in the Premier League.

That’s fair enough, Kingo, but I think one of the key things you’re missing is that he wasn’t ready at the start of the season, he was playing catch up in that respect to the others. So of course he wasn’t going to start. According to Passlack’s interview, Farke was pleased with him but Felix understood it didn’t matter how well he was doing in training, with the way Max was playing then Felix would never dislodge him until suspension or injury. Interestingly, for half the season, Marshall wasn’t deemed good enough and neither was Pinto, so Felix had already moved up the pecking order in that respect, I would suggest that had the opportunity arisen then he would have been Farke’s choice should anything have happened to Max. Not Felix’s fault that didn’t happen.

I have a sneaking suspicion that we may see him back here after July 1st, perhaps that’s why we’ve not already signed RB cover?

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11 hours ago, king canary said:

I just look at the evidence in front of me with Passlack.

The right back place was up for grabs at the start of this season yet we saw...

A right midfielder who got loaned out after 6 months preferred ahead of him to start the season.

Then an out of favour Pinto preferred.

Then a 19 year old with no first team experience preferred.

6 league minutes in total and not in the preferred 18 almost all season, following on from a season elsewhere where he failed to make any impact.

Football is littered with prospects who came through big clubs and played at international youth level but not made it at top level.

He made next to no impact and the competition will only get harder this season. He may turn out to be good but I think if Farke liked him as much as people think he'd have at least been getting minutes off the bench last season. 

I'm not suggesting he's Ali Dia- just that he isn't someone I'd want playing for us in the Premier League.

I have it on good authority that he was a key cog last year

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20 hours ago, king canary said:

I wasn't. I was part of the larger group who never saw him as he never did enough to get on the pitch...

Let's get this right ! You're on this thread blabbering a massive assessment about Passlack - mainly negative...

but you've never seen him play ! You are kidding me right ??!!

Making assumptions because he's never been in the match day squad. The makeup of a match day 18 almost never includes specialist a rightback, leftback, left wing or right wing. These managers in the 21st century are smart - the 18 usually includes the starting eleven, another goalkeeper, other defenders that cover multiple positions, other midfielders that cover multiple positions, other wide midfielders that cover both flanks and a couple of strikers. Specialist players only appear when they start to cover an injury or out-of-form player in their specific position. eg Lewis is injured, next game you see Heise starting (a special leftback) - but hes never in a match day squad, is he ?

I thought you were serious !

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