Anyone here a football manager?

[morty 0]

The answer is no, you''re not, none of us on here are, me included. We''re fans, be it pro Worthy or anti Worthy, none of us is capable of sound reasoned judgement, football is just too emotive a subject for that. All we can offer is differing opinions, either consistant or constantly changing with the weather.

My point is the board runs the business, and the manager manages the team so we can beat our gums all we like about could have beens and maybes but can we just stop behaving like headless chickens? What will happen will happen, we have no influence in it, and 10 people boycotting a match doesn''t really make any differance.

We are not Man Utd or Chelsea, we can''t sign superstar players, we have to take calculated risks on other peoples players that suit our budget, sometimes those risks may not pay off, thats football.

I think a lot of people need to calm down and look at reality, and not through green and yellow glasses either. 

[Citizen Journalist Foghorn 0]

We are signing crap players morty!! cant you see that??  I dont blame worthy for the latest performance but to sign etuhu after he has been average to awful on loan for us is appalling!!

500,000 Andy Hughes - although i rate him higher now than pre Etuhu

250,000 Jurgen Colin

500,000 Dickson Etuhu

that 1,250,000  wasted in an instant!! how many previous norwich managers would have loved a transfer budget like that!!

[Rudolph Hucker 0]

Many of us spend our lives making sound reasoned judgements Morty and are entitled I think to our overblown ''red top'' style rants on the board just so long as it is done in the right spirit amoungst ourselves as well all love the club.

[Jim Smith 2,314]

No i am not a football manager but i have watched and played enough of it over the years to know what i am talking about, probably more so than Nigel Worthington seems to in my humble opinion.

[Meeky 0]

I''m certainly not looking at it through green and yellow glasses (even though I''m a fan), but looking at it through a business perspective.

Carry on like we are and we will no longer have a business, a business can not afford to lose its best assets, replace them with mediocre ones and expect to stay successful. I have an 80 thousand pound machine here at my unit, if I was to replace that with something far inferior I would soon be out of business.

Myself and my business partner started the business five years ago with a five year plan, which was presented to the bank to enable us to get the finance. If my business was now back where we started five years ago, the bank would be looking at our sit u ation very seriously now (notmean?) , and I think the board should be having a long hard look at the long term now as well.

They are sitting quite comfortably at the moment as they already have our money for this season, the crunch will come when season ticket sales/ merchandising etc have fallen and we have run out of parachute money.

I am not running about like a headless chicken, but I am concerned about which direction our club are going, and I do not like what I see.

 

 

 

[morty 0]

Maybe you should send your CV to Carrow road then!

[Mello Yello 2,279]

[quote user="morty"]Maybe you should send your CV to Carrow road then![/quote]

Maybe Morty, you would probably get to read it! Are you an employee of NCFC perchance?

We aren''t football managers and neither is Worthy..........In fact he''d make a better "Taxi than a Coach!" 

 

[percyvarco 0]

The 10 people, sorry players, (all except Doc) who boycotted the Preston match made a differance.

[Splendid Rush 0]

I''m really good at Champ Manager, Morty...

[ZLF 271]

I agree that very few of us on here have any experience of even managing a sunday team. 

However that is the joy of being a fan - we care about a club through the good and bad times and all have opinions on what is going well, indifferently or poorly and how things can be done better.  We all know our views are meaningless in the scheme of things but eventually fan pressure will tell over a sustained period of poor results.

OTBC

[DumbleDelia is Magic 0]

No Morty none of us are football managers.  However, lets use another occupation which some of us might be.  Say you work in Norwich Union and you have a team of employees working underneath you.  You hire and you fire.  You bring in a guy on a short term contract, say 3 months.  You say to him "here''s your chance lad, impress me and we will give you a perminant job".  In the 3 months this lad does nothing.  He''s late for work, his figures are poor, the doesn''t meet targets etc.  Would you give him a job perminantly? 

A simple yes or no will surfice Morty.  Would you give him a job?

[Rudolph Hucker 0]

Morty,

What exactly would you say are the qualifications to be a Football Manager particularly as top players seldom make good managers and some managers barely played the game at any level.

Also, some clubs employ Rugby Coaches and all Managers seem to ''outsource'' the specialisms like Physio, Shrink or Coach.

[Making Plans 936]

As the advert used to say "one instinctively knows when something is right"

Therefore it follows that one instinctively knows when something is wrong.

 

[morty 0]

[quote user="DumbleDelia is Magic"]

No Morty none of us are football managers.  However, lets use another occupation which some of us might be.  Say you work in Norwich Union and you have a team of employees working underneath you.  You hire and you fire.  You bring in a guy on a short term contract, say 3 months.  You say to him "here''s your chance lad, impress me and we will give you a perminant job".  In the 3 months this lad does nothing.  He''s late for work, his figures are poor, the doesn''t meet targets etc.  Would you give him a job perminantly? 

A simple yes or no will surfice Morty.  Would you give him a job?

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A comparison cannot be made between being a manager in a company and a manager of a football club, I take your point but are you suggesting we sack players? Or get players in for 3 months at a time then make a decision to buy? As a player would you move your family somewhere for 3 months? The point I''m making is we don''t fully know all the ins and outs of running a football club (championship manager doesn''t count) and if it was that easy then any manager could just apply for the job, whether having football experience or not. 

[DumbleDelia is Magic 0]

And yet you didn''t answer my question Morty.  If you had someone who worked with you for 3 months and didn''t impress you, would you give him a job?

[Tumbleweed 106]

From what I read at the time Worthy didn''t have any choice but to buy so the evidence during his loan spell would have made no difference- he had effectively already "bought" him when the loan started (whenever that was). They probably signed a legal agreement for a loan which required us to buy him for that money.

Why oh why can''t some of our youngsters get proper development so we don''t have to buy all the time? We have to spread the money so thinly that its no wonder we end up with mediocrity. In the past we developed the youth team and spent little but wisely.

Now we fling it around and dribble it away.

I sometimes wonder whether Worthy watches the games that we see or is just looking at the pitch to see how well the grass is growing.

[morty 0]

[quote user="DumbleDelia is Magic"]And yet you didn''t answer my question Morty.  If you had someone who worked with you for 3 months and didn''t impress you, would you give him a job?[/quote]

Well actually in my job people are signed on long contracts and kept on regardless of performance!

[DumbleDelia is Magic 0]

Lol.  So you refuse to answer my question?  I wonder why that would be. 

[morty 0]

[quote user="DumbleDelia is Magic"]

Lol.  So you refuse to answer my question?  I wonder why that would be. 

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Ok, no I wouldn''t sign the filing clerk, happy?? lol

[LinkNR9 0]

Working on your logic, Morty, we''d still have Hamilton here (because none of us have been professional football managers, so how the hell do we know what we''re talking about).

 

[Citizen Journalist Foghorn 0]

Worthy still hasnt sighed a right midfielder.  will it ever happen??

[Mello Yello 2,279]

So Morty, you''re either in the Military, Civil Service, a Politician, Unemployed, Socialite, Porn Star, Council employee, Social Leech (student), Big issue vendor, or a squad member at Carrow Road!..............Or are you Nigel Worthington or Neil Doncaster! ;~)

"Or, are you a bingo caller or donkey living in Yarmuff?" Neigh, two fat ladies!!!!!! Clickety click! ;~)

Omit the Porn Star Morty..........Their contracts are based on performance.........allegedly! Although I have the necessary credentials but I''m not gonna blow my own trumpet!........Ahem!

[morty 0]

[quote user="Mello Yello"]

So Morty, you''re either in the Military, Civil Service, a Politician, Unemployed, Socialite, Porn Star, Council employee, Social Leech (student), Big issue vendor, or a squad member at Carrow Road!..............Or are you Nigel Worthington or Neil Doncaster! ;~)

"Or, are you a bingo caller or donkey living in Yarmuff?" Neigh, two fat ladies!!!!!! Clickety click! ;~)

Omit the Porn Star Morty..........Their contracts are based on performance.........allegedly! Although I have the necessary credentials but I''m not gonna blow my own trumpet!........Ahem!

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Nice one, glad to see theres still a bit of humour on here today!!

[LinkNR9 0]

Yes, there''s still people having a laugh. Mind you, it''s not half as much fun as most PNE supporters must be having right now!

[DumbleDelia is Magic 0]

[quote user="morty"][quote user="DumbleDelia is Magic"]

Lol.  So you refuse to answer my question?  I wonder why that would be. 

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Ok, no I wouldn''t sign the filing clerk, happy?? lol

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Happy that you answered my question, yes.  Not happy about much else though.  Why the hell have we signed a player who hasn''t performed for 3 months?  None of us might be football managers.  However, it doesn''t take a member of mensa to look at simple facts and come to a correct answer.  Nigel Worthington clearly hasn''t done this

[Syteanric 1]

Nigel Worthingtons not much of a football manager either Morty

jas :)

[morty 0]

[quote user="jas the barclay king"]

Nigel Worthingtons not much of a football manager either Morty

jas :)

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Blimey! That took long enough, I thought that would have been the first reply to my post!!!!! :-)