lappinitup 629 Posted June 25, 2019 Frank Lampard's Derby County have given Frank Lampard permission to talk to Frank Lampard's Chelsea. Frank Lampard was unavailable for comment. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Icecream Snow 761 Posted June 25, 2019 I think you're being cruel to a man who took Derby from lowly 6th place to the dizzying heights of 6th place. 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Branston Pickle 3,598 Posted June 25, 2019 (edited) With improvement like that on his cv it can be of no surprise that one of the biggest/wealthiest clubs in the country are after him. Just as well there’s no head coach at any other club who has a good reputation for decent football/bringing through younger players and who won a title for their club last season... Edited June 25, 2019 by Branston Pickle Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Surfer 1,547 Posted June 25, 2019 Yeah, very unfortunate that. Still maybe a better candidate will emerge for them as the season progresses.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Il Pirata 249 Posted June 25, 2019 Stevie G has already confirmed he is aware of interest from Derby too. Seems like both moves will happen. Derby have an interesting recruitment policy don't they.  Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bethnal Yellow and Green 1,557 Posted June 25, 2019 Given the circumstances at Chelsea, Frank Lampard might not be the worst option available to them. Chelsea need a manager the fans won’t turn on after 6 months, like they did with Sarri - despite his relative success. Obviously Lampard isn’t the greatest manager/head coach around, but I’d imagine a lot of the top grade picks are giving Chelsea a bit of a wide birth at the moment - due to the transfer ban and the unrealistic expectations that surround the club. If you have to go for someone with a lessor reputation, best to get a club legend in (supported by another club legend as the Technical Director is Petr Cech). I can’t see someone like Farke, being able to go in and convince anyone that Chelsea are ‘in transition’ and not lose their job after the first bad run. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
king canary 7,456 Posted June 25, 2019 16 minutes ago, Bethnal Yellow and Green said: supported by another club legend as the Technical Director is Petr Cech This is the move I'm more confused by to be honest. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bethnal Yellow and Green 1,557 Posted June 25, 2019 9 minutes ago, king canary said: This is the move I'm more confused by to be honest. Cech is a clever guy and can see why Chelsea want him around. Not sure of what his remit is though in this role, think it is more a bridging role between the manager and the board. He certainly isn’t an all powerful sporting director like Webber is - Marina Granovskaia is still very much in charge of everything. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BobLoz3 486 Posted June 25, 2019 Can't really stand Chelsea. One of the first clubs I can remember responsible for bringing this "boutique club" feel into football. Bunch of fans who think they deserve the world and act like spoiled children when things don't work out. They're another, like Leeds, who have a ridiculously inflated opinion of themselves. Mind you, at least Chelsea have been successful when attempting to buy a title! But hey. The whole thing is super funny to me and it would make me chuckle very much if they ever found themselves in a relegation battle. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TIL 1010 4,658 Posted June 25, 2019 42 minutes ago, Il Pirata said: Stevie G has already confirmed he is aware of interest from Derby too.   Is that the Stevie G of Steven Gerrard's Rangers ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BobLoz3 486 Posted June 25, 2019 22 minutes ago, TIL 1010 said: Is that the Stevie G of Steven Gerrard's Rangers ? I think they're called "Stevie G's Rangers" 😉 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wacky Waving Inflatable Arm Flailing Tube Man 3,703 Posted June 25, 2019 (edited) If Gerrard leaves Rangers for a Championship club, that would be another real kick in the teeth for Scottish football. Personally though, assuming the Liverpool job is his ultimate aim, I reckon he'd be better off staying at Rangers anyway. He'll get European football every season and if he can manage it at some point over the next few years, an SPL title would probably look better on his CV than a promotion at Derby, as it would mirror what Liverpool have been trying to achieve for the last 20-odd years (assuming Klopp doesn't win the league in the near future). Edited June 25, 2019 by Wacky Waving Inflatable Arm Flailing Tube Man Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ThorpeCanary 71 Posted June 25, 2019 (edited) When we appointed Farke there were a few in the media including Ray Wilkins bemoaning what a shame it was that we hadn't taken on a young British manager, Giggs was the man mentioned at the time despite having only been an assistant Clubs like Chelsea etc had been taking on foreign players and managers for us but there seemed to some kind of belief that we should be trying out their idols to see if they would be fit for management. I'm pleased we did it our own way and feel a bit for Derby, one season in which the fans and the players gave him a chance and bought into him now to have to start over. Oh well - They'd have known the risk Edited June 25, 2019 by ThorpeCanary Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
daly 497 Posted June 25, 2019 Around 16 managers since 2000 hardly worth unpacking Still he'll get the usual millions for failure Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Icecream Snow 761 Posted June 25, 2019 £10 says that when we play them at Stamford Bridge, he cuts the power to the floodlights Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lake district canary 4,520 Posted June 25, 2019 It's all that is wrong with football....get a load of mercenary players in, jobs for the old boys and "hope" they can all do the job. I like Frank Lampard, but I hope that he can't get Chelsea (if he goes there) going.  In fact with him in charge and trying to instill some togetherness into his band of mercenaries, we might have an advantage in that early game against them.  Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hoola Han Solo 448 Posted June 25, 2019 1 minute ago, lake district canary said: It's all that is wrong with football....get a load of mercenary players in, jobs for the old boys and "hope" they can all do the job. I like Frank Lampard, but I hope that he can't get Chelsea (if he goes there) going.  In fact with him in charge and trying to instill some togetherness into his band of mercenaries, we might have an advantage in that early game against them.  Sounds like us with Bryan Gunn 🤣 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
duke63 539 Posted June 25, 2019 Can anyone show me where an ex player has had great success as a a manager at the same club? He struggled at Derby, IMHO. They had arguably the best squad in the league, certainly one of the highest spenders and Derby got nowhere near automatic promotion. Another gone by the end of the season. Â Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cornish sam 923 Posted June 25, 2019 Kenny dalglish Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GJP 79 Posted June 25, 2019 Guardiola did ok at Barca. Zidane has had reasonable success too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hogesar 9,503 Posted June 25, 2019 Obviously contrary to media BS, he's not achieved anything vaguely special with Derby. Saying that, he didnt do a terrible job either. With a transfer embargo and his club status he will be given some time. And Chelsea managers never last long anyway. So if he gets sacked in 2 years he will still be given a championship job after. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wacky Waving Inflatable Arm Flailing Tube Man 3,703 Posted June 25, 2019 Carlo Ancelotti won both the Serie A and European Cup as player and coach at Milan, Fabio Capello won the Serie A at Roma, Milan and Juventus having won trophies as a player at all three... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wcorkcanary 4,315 Posted June 25, 2019 Agree Hoggo, he's in a win win situation, if does good , happy days, if not then how can an inexperienced young manager be expected to manage such a Club so early in his managerial career, with a transfer embargo as well. Also let's not forget that he may well have Jody Morris with him too, who knows all about the young players that Chelsea have on they books as he was the U18 manager before Derby job. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nuff Said 4,938 Posted June 25, 2019 1 hour ago, duke63 said: Can anyone show me where an ex player has had great success as a a manager at the same club? He struggled at Derby, IMHO. They had arguably the best squad in the league, certainly one of the highest spenders and Derby got nowhere near automatic promotion. Another gone by the end of the season. Â How many times do we need to go over this? (I sound like Bill!). Â Derby made a profit on player sales for the last two seasons. Granted they have used a lot of financial jiggery poker to cope with earlier high spending (nothing unique there though)Â but they aren't one of the highest spenders at all. Â Looks like Bradley Johnson is out of contract BTW. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aggy 739 Posted June 25, 2019 3 hours ago, lake district canary said: It's all that is wrong with football....get a load of mercenary players in, jobs for the old boys and "hope" they can all do the job. I like Frank Lampard, but I hope that he can't get Chelsea (if he goes there) going.  In fact with him in charge and trying to instill some togetherness into his band of mercenaries, we might have an advantage in that early game against them.  I don’t agree with this at all. A young British manager who started in a lower league, had a decent (if not particularly special) season and is being given a shot at a bigger club. A club which he also happens to know extremely well, a chairman he knows well, a youth set up he and his assistant know extremely well. A club which, with a potential transfer embargo might need to rely on that youth academy. I’d rather they gave Lampard a go than just bring in another tired old name. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
daly 497 Posted June 25, 2019 3 hours ago, duke63 said: Can anyone show me where an ex player has had great success as a a manager at the same club? He struggled at Derby, IMHO. They had arguably the best squad in the league, certainly one of the highest spenders and Derby got nowhere near automatic promotion. Another gone by the end of the season.   Neil Adams Youth Cup Winners Manager Forget what happened next  Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Leedscanary 318 Posted June 25, 2019 He conquered August League Winners Leeds Utd, so cant be all bad 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cornish sam 923 Posted June 25, 2019 35 minutes ago, Leedscanary said: He conquered August League Winners Leeds Utd, so cant be all bad There's an article on the BBC about football terms from around the world, one of them is from South Korea where they have the phrase "having a Leeds season" I thought that meant starting well, people getting carried away before they eventually Fu<k up and bottle it, but, it actually refers to Alan Smith and the season before his man utd move. Essentially it means a once in a lifetime, uncharacteristically exceptional season before reverting to norm... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Great Mass Debater 1,071 Posted June 25, 2019 4 hours ago, duke63 said: Can anyone show me where an ex player has had great success as a a manager at the same club? He struggled at Derby, IMHO. They had arguably the best squad in the league, certainly one of the highest spenders and Derby got nowhere near automatic promotion. Another gone by the end of the season. Â Solksjaer. Broke a few Utd records already I believe Share this post Link to post Share on other sites