Alex Moss 2,165 Posted May 9, 2019 http://sportwitness.co.uk/id-never-forgive-player-says-hes-returning-norwich-city-pl-dream/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bethnal Yellow and Green 1,557 Posted May 9, 2019 11 minutes ago, Alex Moss said: http://sportwitness.co.uk/id-never-forgive-player-says-hes-returning-norwich-city-pl-dream/ I suspect he wants to renegotiate the contract offered by Darmstadt. Franke’s wages will have just gone up by 30% - 40% and he’ll want that reflected in the deal he’s being offered by prospective clubs. He could also come back to Norwich, then go out on loan again, pocketing his pay rise and then get to leave on a free next summer - which is always a more profitable time to move for a player. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KeiranShikari 1,410 Posted May 9, 2019 I thought he returned to Germany because he couldn't settle in England. lol 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gordon Bennett 783 Posted May 9, 2019 (edited) Perhaps he believes in his ability and wants to try and show Farke during pre season that he is worth another go. Wouldn’t be the first player to force his way back into their managers plans. Edited May 9, 2019 by Gordon Bennett Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
splendidrush 700 Posted May 9, 2019 Maybe he's a little more keen now that we're not playing Millwall next season. 😉 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fuzzar 1,702 Posted May 9, 2019 I was thinking of starting a thread on this. Presumably all contracted players will get the PL salary increase, regardless of whether they have been playing for us, or will be in the manager's plans for next season? This will presumably have an effect on how easy it will be to loan out some of our fringe players (Franke, Marshall, etc) without having to more heavily subsidise their wages. Hopefully, not too much of a problem given our significant increase in income, but a contributing factor nevertheless to next season's budget. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rich T The Biscuit 562 Posted May 9, 2019 6 minutes ago, Fuzzar said: I was thinking of starting a thread on this. Presumably all contracted players will get the PL salary increase, regardless of whether they have been playing for us, or will be in the manager's plans for next season? This will presumably have an effect on how easy it will be to loan out some of our fringe players (Franke, Marshall, etc) without having to more heavily subsidise their wages. Hopefully, not too much of a problem given our significant increase in income, but a contributing factor nevertheless to next season's budget. There’s the joy of a promotion and players not wanted being on contracts that allow pay rises (that’s assuming all of them have that in their contracts by the way) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alex Moss 2,165 Posted May 9, 2019 25 minutes ago, Bethnal Yellow and Green said: I suspect he wants to renegotiate the contract offered by Darmstadt. Franke’s wages will have just gone up by 30% - 40% and he’ll want that reflected in the deal he’s being offered by prospective clubs. He could also come back to Norwich, then go out on loan again, pocketing his pay rise and then get to leave on a free next summer - which is always a more profitable time to move for a player. Yes Beth, I actually misread one of the lines from the article as ‘Farke has put a stop to the move to Germany’, when of course, it was actually Franke! That makes things very different! So yes, I agree, he will of course come back but I too would be very surprised if he gets his shot in the Premier League. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pete 319 Posted May 9, 2019 Where does it say these salary increases are automatic for all the players. If agreed this is financial madness offering increases to all fringe players if those involved in the promotion ok but not everyone unless of course there are clauses in contracts which seems unusual given where some of the fringe players have come from.  Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KeiranShikari 1,410 Posted May 9, 2019 Franke would hardly have been considered a fringe player when he was signed. Pretty sure he was one of our bigger buys that summer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AJ 1,218 Posted May 9, 2019 He was bought in to be the main partner for Klose, ended up being replaced by Hanley about 6 weeks later! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bethnal Yellow and Green 1,557 Posted May 9, 2019 12 minutes ago, pete said: Where does it say these salary increases are automatic for all the players. If agreed this is financial madness offering increases to all fringe players if those involved in the promotion ok but not everyone unless of course there are clauses in contracts which seems unusual given where some of the fringe players have come from.  Any agent who doesn’t get a wage rise upon promotion for their player who is joining a Championship club should be sacked. The difference in club revenue means it is pretty much a given that players will get pay rises.  Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanaryChris 146 Posted May 9, 2019 Frankely my dear I don't give a damn. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nuff Said 5,137 Posted May 9, 2019 I can’t remember anything about his play, other than the physical nature of the Championship didn’t suit him. Would he possibly be more effective in the PL? We must have seen something in him, as KS says, he was one of our more expensive buys. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bethnal Yellow and Green 1,557 Posted May 9, 2019 1 minute ago, Nuff Said said: I can’t remember anything about his play, other than the physical nature of the Championship didn’t suit him. Would he possibly be more effective in the PL? We must have seen something in him, as KS says, he was one of our more expensive buys. The speed at which he was dropped not only from the starting XI but from the bench and back out to Germany suggests there was a bigger issue than his performances. The Premier League is no less physical than the Championship, while refs may give a tiny bit more protection to players the players tend to be stronger and faster. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
It's Character Forming 1,160 Posted May 9, 2019 Yeah it was after the 4-0 defeat at Millwall I think ? And I've got to agree that a CB in the Prem needs to be every bit as strong as in the Champs. It's creative players who tend to suffer more in the Champs, not the defenders. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KeiranShikari 1,410 Posted May 9, 2019 Â The back 4 in the Millwall game was Pinto, Martin, Franke and Husband. I think we've moved on. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
canary86 0 Posted May 9, 2019 It seems the natural progression if you cant keep Morrison and co. quiet to think you'd have a better chance against Salah, Hazard and Aguero! :) In all seriousness, good luck to him if he manages to win Farke round then I am on board... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fr. Chewy Louie 137 Posted May 9, 2019 Wow, just looked up the line up from that Millwall game - we really have moved on: 1 Gunn 2 Pinto 5 Martin Substituted for Zimmermann at 59'minutes 28 Franke 3 Husband 4 Reed Substituted for Stiepermann at 59'minutes 14 Hoolahan 23 Maddison Substituted for Tettey at 75'minutes 8 Vrancic 11 Murphy 9 Oliveira  1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BroadstairsR 2,164 Posted May 9, 2019 Well. He's on our books Farke/Webber signed him and their record of players from the German league is pretty immaculate at the moment. Farke must have fancied him for a reason so it is not beyond the bounds of possibility that the extra centre back that everybody says we need is already on the books. On the other hand, I have never really seen him in action being a long distant plastic so from my viewpoint he might therefore also be genuinely not good enough.Others will know. For this though he won't have been the only one of the current manager's imports who have needed time to find his feet in England so to speak. Perhaps his regrets are genuine but, then again, he might just be sniffing the extra money and is willing to put up with another dose of his reported 'homesickness' in order to line his pockets. He does appear to have a bit of a nerve either way. Whatever, Webber will deal with it, Farke will know. Curious one though.  1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
It's Character Forming 1,160 Posted May 9, 2019 According to Wikipedia he only played 7 times for us so not sure any City fan will have much of a better view than you about him!  as you say, Farke’s signings (in do far as it’s down  to him alone) have generally been pretty good but no one can get it right 100%. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
It's Character Forming 1,160 Posted May 9, 2019 Thinking back to when Husband was full back makes me appreciate how spoilt we have been this season with the quality of our fullbacks!! Â Â Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grando 260 Posted May 9, 2019 1 hour ago, Fr. Chewy Louie said: Wow, just looked up the line up from that Millwall game - we really have moved on: 1 Gunn 2 Pinto 5 Martin Substituted for Zimmermann at 59'minutes 28 Franke 3 Husband 4 Reed Substituted for Stiepermann at 59'minutes 14 Hoolahan 23 Maddison Substituted for Tettey at 75'minutes 8 Vrancic 11 Murphy 9 Oliveira  In fairness to him that wasn't a great back four to be a part of... I very much doubt he'll feature for us next season, but if he has a genuine desire to come back and prove a point then stranger things have, just occasionally, happened. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Petriix 2,835 Posted May 9, 2019 I remember him being terrible. He kept making errors which led to goals. I can't imagine him fitting back into the team. Fairly sure he's just hanging around to pick up the increased wages. Not criticising anyone for that situation, the recruitment has been very good, but this signing was one of the few exceptions. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Half Ar5ed Hipster 82 Posted May 9, 2019 Saw him play at that dreadful Millwall game and thought we may as well had 9 outfield players. Seemed completely overwhelmed at the nature of their game and given the guy isn't exactly small I was very surprised. Robert Huth he ain't. This is probably a nothing story. If he comes back too he has Hanley, Klose, Zimm and Godfrey to disrupt - in the view none of them are leaving of course. Â Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fr. Chewy Louie 137 Posted May 9, 2019 9 minutes ago, Petriix said: I remember him being terrible. He kept making errors which led to goals. I can't imagine him fitting back into the team. Fairly sure he's just hanging around to pick up the increased wages. Not criticising anyone for that situation, the recruitment has been very good, but this signing was one of the few exceptions. I seem to remember Zimbo was getting stick for errors at the time as well (e.g. the Villa mauling the week before), but he seems to have bounced back. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Woodman 92 Posted May 9, 2019 Oliveira still has a year left on his contract and presumably is entitled to his Premiership increase. Plus Marshall, Husband and Raggett. Can't see any of those 4 being part of Farke's plans, but contractually, I assume we're liable until we sell them? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FenwayFrank 2,459 Posted May 9, 2019 So Naismiths last months pay will have an increase as well ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Petriix 2,835 Posted May 9, 2019 4 minutes ago, Woodman said: Oliveira still has a year left on his contract and presumably is entitled to his Premiership increase. Plus Marshall, Husband and Raggett. Can't see any of those 4 being part of Farke's plans, but contractually, I assume we're liable until we sell them? I would assume that those players are entitled to an increase; although I believe Oliveira was on big wages already. Also, if you sell a player and their wages go down, the selling club usually have to make up the difference for the duration of the original contract. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Petriix 2,835 Posted May 9, 2019 1 minute ago, FenwayFrank said: So Naismiths last months pay will have an increase as well ? I would assume not as the increase would likely be due from the start of the season. However, he might well be contractually entitled to a bonus. Although I doubt he even has a promotion clause in his contract as he was signed on premier league wages and I don't think he had a relegation clause. One of the worst signings ever made by the club in financial terms if true. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites