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19 hours ago, keelansgrandad said:

Britain burns while Boris paints.

Didn't know you could get painting by numbers in Marbella.

Goldsmith left him this at the villa:

 

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I see the lorry driver visa scheme is proving a sparkling success, brexit Britain is simply irresistible:

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/government-labelled-incompetent-as-only-20-visas-are-issued-to-foreign-truckers/ar-AAPtjhY?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531

A senior minister disclosed today that only about 20 foreign lorry drivers have been granted temporary visas to work in the UK.

It was announced last month that the Government would issue 5,000 temporary visas to HGV drivers and a further 5,500 to poultry workers in an attempt to prevent shortages in the run up to Christmas.

However, Conservative Party chairman Oliver Dowden said the numbers of drivers applying were “relatively limited”, with about 300 applications received and about 20 actually issued.

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23 minutes ago, Yellow Fever said:

I wonder what it feels like to scam the electorate?

Judging by half of our population it's the easiest job in the world...so probably initially satisfying, but in the long-term they know they need a bigger challenge (like teaching a dog to not eat it's own sh*t with such relish).🤦‍♂️🤣

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Cummings' claim that the government never intended to honour the brexit deal they signed has been backed up by evidence from another politician:

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/brexit-news-live-pm-promised-to-tear-up-ni-protocol-dup-politician-claims-as-eu-seeks-to-break-impasse/ar-AAPuZzZ?ocid=msedgntp

Boris Johnson personally promised that the Northern Ireland protocol would be ditched, a senior DUP politician has claimed.

The comments made by Ian Paisley Jr followed Dominic Cummings’ suggestion that No 10’s strategy was always to “ditch the bits we didn’t like”.

The DUP MP told BBC’s Newsnight: “Boris Johnson did tell me personally that he would, after agreeing to the protocol, he would sign up to changing that protocol and indeed tearing it up.”

Responding to MrCumm*ing’s earlier accusation, the shadow international secretary Emily Thornberry said it was “appalling” that the UK’s leaders could think about deceiving other countries during negotiations.

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1 hour ago, Mr Apples said:

Judging by half of our population it's the easiest job in the world...so probably initially satisfying, but in the long-term they know they need a bigger challenge (like teaching a dog to not eat it's own sh*t with such relish).🤦‍♂️🤣

Apples

 

20 minutes ago, horsefly said:

Cummings' claim that the government never intended to honour the brexit deal they signed has been backed up by evidence from another politician:

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/brexit-news-live-pm-promised-to-tear-up-ni-protocol-dup-politician-claims-as-eu-seeks-to-break-impasse/ar-AAPuZzZ?ocid=msedgntp

Boris Johnson personally promised that the Northern Ireland protocol would be ditched, a senior DUP politician has claimed.

The comments made by Ian Paisley Jr followed Dominic Cummings’ suggestion that No 10’s strategy was always to “ditch the bits we didn’t like”.

The DUP MP told BBC’s Newsnight: “Boris Johnson did tell me personally that he would, after agreeing to the protocol, he would sign up to changing that protocol and indeed tearing it up.”

Responding to MrCumm*ing’s earlier accusation, the shadow international secretary Emily Thornberry said it was “appalling” that the UK’s leaders could think about deceiving other countries during negotiations.

What is amazing is that the 'government' clearly lied, misled, sold a dud and scammed all those honest voters that voted for them!

No different to any other on-line scam or fraud I'm afraid on the vulnerable. Lie to Queen, lie to the people.

They have in fact admitted that they know their supporters are thick and can be treated as such - or else such supporters are equally culpable.

I thought we'd become a second rate country. That was clearly optimistic.

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23 hours ago, BigFish said:

 

 

Every brexiter that is still standing, God knows how many are left, should read this thread. And then read it again. 

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20 minutes ago, Yellow Fever said:

 

Being told by Cummings she was a dispensible useful idiot!

Sadly she can't say she wasn't warned, on a regular basis.

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1 hour ago, Herman said:

 

Frankly, Mummery deserves little more than contempt for the fact that she acted as a foghorn for Johnson's and Farage's lies. She had plenty of people warning her what the reality of brexit would bring to the fishing industry, but despite being a "leader" for the trade, she prefered to conspire with the lies rather than investigate the truth. She, as much as Johnson (et al) deserves the blame for the wrecked livelihoods of so many fishing folk. 

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1 hour ago, horsefly said:

Frankly, Mummery deserves little more than contempt for the fact that she acted as a foghorn for Johnson's and Farage's lies. She had plenty of people warning her what the reality of brexit would bring to the fishing industry, but despite being a "leader" for the trade, she prefered to conspire with the lies rather than investigate the truth. She, as much as Johnson (et al) deserves the blame for the wrecked livelihoods of so many fishing folk. 

I liked this:

 
Word of the day is ‘flenching’ (19th-century Scots): promising an improvement that never quite materialises.
 
 
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How are we going to get rid of him?, the opposition just seem really weak and if we were to have a GE tomorrow, he would still win.

The Americans got the idea right in which you can only serve two terms at the most. Here it’s until the public stop voting for you and I cannot see that ending for some time, sadly. I just hope the awful way he’s handled everything and goes on holiday to paint and escape the heat, finally makes the public who vote for him to come to their senses.

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15 minutes ago, KernowCanary said:

How are we going to get rid of him?, the opposition just seem really weak and if we were to have a GE tomorrow, he would still win.

The Americans got the idea right in which you can only serve two terms at the most. Here it’s until the public stop voting for you and I cannot see that ending for some time, sadly. I just hope the awful way he’s handled everything and goes on holiday to paint and escape the heat, finally makes the public who vote for him to come to their senses.

The electorate are turning against Johnson, but I suggest what just happen to the Chechs brings the answer.

What the Czech elections mean for Europe’s strongmen

This past weekend, Andrej Babis, the Czech Republic’s seemingly invincible populist leader, was the unexpected loser of its elections, after a coalition of previously divided center-right parties united against him. They had a simple, clear message: We can beat Babis.

The success of these Czech opposition parties could have major repercussions in the region and beyond. For the past decade, strongman leaders disdainful of democratic norms have risen to power around the world. Now, opposition leaders are mobilizing, trying to forge unified fronts and oust populist leaders in upcoming elections.

In Hungary, for instance, six parties across the political spectrum are collaborating to oppose the party of Viktor Orban, the right-wing leader who has become a standard-bearer for “illiberal democracy.” And in Poland, Donald Tusk, a former prime minister and European Council president, hopes to rally the main opposition party and people who often do not vote, and to lure support from a plethora of other opposition groups.

Quotable: “Populism is beatable,” said Otto Eibl, the head of the political science department at Masaryk University in the Czech city of Brno. “The first step in beating a populist leader is to suppress individual egos and to compromise in the interest of bringing a change.”

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1 hour ago, KernowCanary said:

How are we going to get rid of him?, the opposition just seem really weak and if we were to have a GE tomorrow, he would still win.

The Americans got the idea right in which you can only serve two terms at the most. Here it’s until the public stop voting for you and I cannot see that ending for some time, sadly. I just hope the awful way he’s handled everything and goes on holiday to paint and escape the heat, finally makes the public who vote for him to come to their senses.

Polls following the Conference period seem to show the Tories slightly increasing their lead

https://docs.cdn.yougov.com/rh8jc785e5/TheTimes_VI_Results_211013_W.pdf

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Johnson will go eventually. They all do. Here are the options as I see them 

1 - Resign of his own free will

2 - Forced to resign by his party 

3 - Beaten in an internal leadership contest 

4 - Beaten at the ballot box 

5 - Die in office (no, I don't wish for this)

6 - Vote of no confidence (kind of links to the first 3 options)

7 - Military coup 😱

If I have missed something, let me know 

I'm thinking 2 and 3 are the favourites. I  don't  see the Tories losing any time soon  or Johnson jacking in of his own free will. 

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Just now, KernowCanary said:

Just typical, when will this country ever learn?. It’s like slugs voting for salt.

Nothing will change until we have a credible opposition.

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1 minute ago, How I Wrote Elastic Man said:

Frustrating when he won't stick to the vote leave narrative 

Or the NI protocol narrative 

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15 minutes ago, How I Wrote Elastic Man said:

Frustrating when he won't stick to the vote leave narrative 

Or the NI protocol narrative 

I think Cummings nailed it with his 'wonky shopping trolley' analogy 😊

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Always amusing when things don't turn out as expected. 

We live in strange and interesting times.

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24 minutes ago, ricardo said:

Always amusing when things don't turn out as expected. 

We live in strange and interesting times.

As I mentioned the same poll as used shows Johnson’s popularity down to 35% and if there was an election today only 26% would vote conservative.

As Cop26 approaches Johnson has another shot at making the U.K. the laughing stock of the world.

https://news.sky.com/story/uk-trade-deals-should-prioritise-economic-growth-over-environmental-protections-leaked-govt-document-12433808

Is the toe rag still in hiding after the COVID report ? I see from the news tonight all his promises of distributing vaccines we have managed to distribute 9600 vaccines, whilst we dump hundreds of doses.

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1 hour ago, Van wink said:

Nothing will change until we have a credible opposition.

An electorate that pays attention wouldn't go amiss either.

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44 minutes ago, Well b back said:

As I mentioned the same poll as used shows Johnson’s popularity down to 35% and if there was an election today only 26% would vote conservative.

As Cop26 approaches Johnson has another shot at making the U.K. the laughing stock of the world.

https://news.sky.com/story/uk-trade-deals-should-prioritise-economic-growth-over-environmental-protections-leaked-govt-document-12433808

Is the toe rag still in hiding after the COVID report ? I see from the news tonight all his promises of distributing vaccines we have managed to distribute 9600 vaccines, whilst we dump hundreds of doses.

 

11 minutes ago, Herman said:

An electorate that pays attention wouldn't go amiss either.

Johnson and the Tory's are just starting to reap what they have sown. Crisis following crisis. What is it today... Gas, pigs, HGV, NI lies, EU trade war, .. actually I am struggling to keep up... oh yes Covid too rejoining the bun fight.

Give it 5 years and it will be difficult to find anybody who'll admit to voting for this lot.

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Something I was talking about 3 weeks ago, which I knew from listening to people in the business for a few years. These people are truly the worst government.

 

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