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Your supporters abused them for saving migrants lives, do you support the RNLI in helping the migrants or the people that abused them for saving them, your post suggests the latter.

Hows the poll on Johnson going ? You didn’t answer.

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17 minutes ago, SwindonCanary said:

 

And still 81% of Poles support the EU. They aren’t gullible enough to support t**** like Farage in Poland.

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5 hours ago, SwindonCanary said:

 

Yet again you post a pile of trash from this blithering idiot who is not even capable of pronuoncing the word "primacy" correctly.

Not only that, he fails to mention the reason why the EU is threatening this action. Thank God the EU is there to protect the Polish people from an extreme right-wing government that is seeking to gain political control over its Courts of Law. I take it from the fact that you have posted this that you don't believe the law should be independent of political interference? Luckily for the members of the EU the European Commission learnt the lessons the Naz*is provided of just why it is essential that the judiciary remains independent of political interference. But then, I don't remember you having anything to say when our own government attempted to illegally prorogue parliament. Neither did you say anything about the government's proposals to severely restrict the democratic right to protest. So perhaps you can tell us in clear terms why you believe that political regimes have a right to interfere in the law when every democratic constitution establishes the need for its fundamental independence?

https://www.msn.com/en-xl/europe/top-stories/eu-threatens-fines-against-poland-over-judiciary-ruling/ar-AAMmRlp?ocid=uxbndlbing

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6 hours ago, SwindonCanary said:

not at all WRONG AGAIN !

Yet again you provide me an excellent example to pass on to the students about the importance of correct punctuation. You do realise that you have just agreed with Wbb don't you?

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42 minutes ago, SwindonCanary said:

It was in reply to this load of nonsense ! 

Lol

People that you support as pointed out by Herman are being abused for saving migrants from the sea, yet you won’t condemn them. You also support their view that migrants should not be allowed to come here.

Just condemn them or agree with them ?

You still haven’t updated us with the latest Johnson polls, guess he must be having some problems ?

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Lots of the polls have him a lot less liked than that, some go to 54% this morning. You should look at the ones saying wether people think he is dishonest lol.

Thats what you get for going to war with the NHS, footballers and Marcus Rashford in particular.

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A few more daft mutterings from Javid and I will start pining for the "competent" Hancock to come back.🤨

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2 hours ago, Well b back said:

Lots of the polls have him a lot less liked than that, some go to 54% this morning. You should look at the ones saying wether people think he is dishonest lol.

Thats what you get for going to war with the NHS, footballers and Marcus Rashford in particular.

According to Opinium the poll slump is being lead by the Midlands and the North. I thought it would be the southern areas.

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On 23/08/2019 at 16:20, Jools said:

The Irish border issue

By johnredwood | Published: August 23, 2019

Eurosceptics do not see there is a problem with the land border between the Republic of Ireland and the UK. As the government has made clear, the UK will not be imposing new barriers or complex new checks at the border once we leave.

The present border is already a complex border. It is a VAT border and Excise border. Trucks do not have to wait at the border while someone in a kiosk works out the VAT owing. It is all done electronically away from the border. States are good at knocking tax off business accounts without needing to collect fivers when the truck arrives. It is a currency border. Again the currency calculations and exchanges occur well away from the transit point. It is an anti-terrorist border, which works by mutual co-operation on both sides. The day after we leave arrangements to control smuggling and to intercept criminals will be the same as today. The UK and the Republic of Ireland have confirmed that the long-standing Travel Area between our two countries will continue, avoiding the need for extra checks on people crossing.

The UK will continue to inspect food products after we leave as before. The EU authorities will presumably continue to check and certify the products they are sending for export without needing a check at their border, and the UK will continue to regulate wholesalers and retailers with inspections and spot checks on their facilities and product as required, all away from the border. UK retailers will continue to be under a legal duty of care to ensure anything they import from the EU is safe food.

So why is there an issue? The Republic of Ireland and the EU say there may be an issue because they are concerned about “the integrity of the single market”. It reminds us that the single market was never a free trade area, but a heavily protected system ring-fenced with tariffs and dependent on detailed product specification and regulation. Anyone inside the EU or outside the EU has to comply with all aspects of the rules and tax requirements in order to sell into this market. Once out the UK as other third countries like the USA and China will have to comply with all the rules on goods exported to the EU, just as we do today. The difference will be that we can adopt different standards if we wish to for other overseas markets and for our domestic market. We may design better ones or we may need to adopt different standards for export product elsewhere. More importantly, we will no longer be expected to pay large sums for the privilege of being inside this single market and we will be free to cut tariffs to buy cheaper goods from non EU countries if we wish.

The issue of the Irish border is therefore one for the EU, not for the UK. The question to them is what new checks if any will they impose on the Republic of Ireland border on their exports to the UK and their imports from the UK? Any checks they wish to impose on UK exports will of course have to be proportionate and appropriate under WTO rules. They also cannot impose checks against UK exports that they do not impose against exports from anywhere else in the world. The EU says it understands the history of Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland. That means they will not wish to impose new barriers and difficult checks at the border. There are many crossing points, and like all such land borders smuggling is possible over fields and farms as well as along rural roads. There is smuggling today and there will be smuggling after Brexit. Authorities on both sides of the border have an interest in controlling and prosecuting smugglers, and do so today by intelligence led co-operation. The same is the best answer once the UK has left the EU.

The border issue is of course mainly a political issue designed to make it difficult or impossible for the UK to leave the single market and customs union. It only achieves this end if the UK accepts the faulty premise, that new barriers are needed at the border if we just leave. The UK government has stated clearly it does not think that. The EU also likes to claim there is no technology answer to this conundrum. They should remind themselves that their borders today work with much help from electronic manifests, off border settlement of taxes and dues,a low number of sampling checks at borders, checks at the factory or farm originating the product or at the wholesaler or retailer receiving the product, TIR transport systems and the rest. Computers and the internet offer plenty of ways of having smooth borders, reflected in the Facilitation of Trade rules of the WTO. The UK imports quite easily from non EU sources today despite EU rules and controls affecting such imports.

 

7 hours ago, Herman said:

Brexit means brexit. Another businessman whining about the consequences of people's actions.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9822103/Border-controls-make-impossible-M-S-sandwiches-Paris-stores.html?ito=amp_twitter_share-top

@Jools - come back!

Tell us what's happened to the electronic checks?

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1 minute ago, How I Wrote Elastic Man said:

 

@Jools - come back!

Tell us what's happened to the electronic checks?

Thick brexiteers swallowing misleading **** from their betters....well well

https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1450057/Brexit-news-fishing-latest-quotas-eu-trade-deal-june-mummery

https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/news/unionist-dismay-at-traitor-boris-johnsons-betrayal-of-northern-ireland-220794/

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1452803/Brexit-news-UK-farming-latest-Boris-Johnson-Conservative-Party-update-video-vn

https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1415577/Brexit-news-latest-eu-vaccine-block-astrazeneca-uk-john-redwood-boris-johnson

https://yorkshirebylines.co.uk/fishermens-trade-bodies-accuse-johnson-of-lying-to-them/

 

The endless whining seems to based on the premise that the brexit thickos believed an habitual liar. A man as familiar to the truth as Eric Pickles is to the salad bar.

That these lies were exposed as lies did not seem to stop the thickos from believing what Johnson, Rees-Mogg, Farage etc told them. That these lies have turned out to be nothing more that means to better the lot of brexit leaders come as no surprise to Remainers.

Whatever amount City were to asked their fans to donate to the club in return for guaranteed Champions League football this season, you would think every supporter would know that cannot happen.

Likewise the shysters were telling the thick that impossible things would happen..... as 'they need us more than them'. Vacuous slogans spewed out to  mask obvious impossibilities.

However, what US TV Evangelicals know is that there are enormous amounts of money to be made from telling the stupid what they want to hear.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2s0nB2VPvs

laugh now at how totally stupid belief in such nonsense is - but similarly, dumb brexiteers were believing the obvious nonsense their 'betters' were once filling their silly heads with

odd how we never any of that 'sunny uplands' **** any more

 

 

 

 

 

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9 minutes ago, SwindonCanary said:

Boris has worked it so that we now get 13p off per bottle from the EU.  The more you drink the more you save. 

Any update on the polls ?

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20 minutes ago, SwindonCanary said:

Boris has worked it so that we now get 13p off per bottle from the EU.  The more you drink the more you save. 

not sure what you are warbling on about - but if it is connected to Johnson, then you'll save a fortune given how your sort will swallow any guff from him

whereas in the real world, the UK government wanted to keep the V-1 import certificate and it was EU and UK wine traders who forced the UK government to change


Traders had warned decision by London to maintain EU requirement after leaving bloc would cause lasting damage

"The UK and EU wine trade were dismayed when London announced it would maintain the VI-1 form after leaving the bloc and extend it to wines from EU countries such as France, Italy and Spain, albeit after a six-month grace period. The EU supplies about half of the $4.4bn of wine the UK imports each year. Ministers had previously insisted the additional post-Brexit cost would only add an average 10p per bottle to the retail price of imported wine. “The government spent the past seven months digging a deeper and deeper hole for itself by pretending the industry wanted VI-1s to maintain quality,” said Daniel Lambert, a wine merchant who has lobbied against the certificates."  Financial Times

If you were not so thick as sht Swindl, you would have checked this first, and realised once again you were talking out of your **** - as well as drawing attention to another c*ck up by Johnson's government.

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7 hours ago, SwindonCanary said:

Boris has worked it so that we now get 13p off per bottle from the EU.  The more you drink the more you save. 

It's another u-turn from the Government.

Encouraging people to drink more is irresponsible.

The more you drink the more of your budget will be spent on something that will detrimentally affect your health.

 

 

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6 minutes ago, SwindonCanary said:

Brexit = cheaper wine  👍

The pound has fallen around 16% since (because of) Brexit

The reduction of 10p was brought about in part by European wine traders taking on a pro brexit UK government - which headed by Johnson gave way....yet again

A drinkable bottle of wine has risen by £1.50 minimum thanks to brexit

I would say thanks for reminding us all how thick you are - but is not needed every day

 

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On 25/07/2021 at 00:00, SwindonCanary said:

 

You posted this yesterday  and I asked you to explain why you objected to the EU defending one of the most fundamental principles of democracy, the independence of the judiciary from political control. You have yet give an answer, so here's another chance for you to explain why you support the Polish government's attempt to breach this principle and follow the example of Naz*i Germany in giving the government power over the decision making procedures of judges.

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On 25/07/2021 at 00:00, SwindonCanary said:

 

You posted this yesterday  and I asked you to explain why you objected to the EU defending one of the most fundamental principles of democracy, the independence of the judiciary from political control. You have yet give an answer, so here's another chance for you to explain why you support the Polish government's attempt to breach this principle and follow the example of Naz*i Germany in giving the government power over the decision making procedures of judges.

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8 hours ago, SwindonCanary said:

Boris has worked it so that we now get 13p off per bottle from the EU.  The more you drink the more you save. 

Yet again you prove how economically retarded you are. Let's suppose I buy one bottle of wine for a fiver saving 13p, two bottles would save 26p, but I would now have spent a tenner. You are a first-grade numbskull.

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Brexit = cheaper wine 

Not to take a serious problem lightly but his alcoholism does explain a lot of things.

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