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2 hours ago, Herman said:

We all wish Stanley had pulled out earlier.

Haha! I think his wife wishes he had never put it in in the first place

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8 hours ago, SwindonCanary said:

Boris has always go the option to pull out of the agreement altogether 

beware !  

 

So if the deal is that bad why sign it ? What a clown.

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5 minutes ago, SwindonCanary said:

WOW!!! 50 new jobs, amazing! And £140million investment compared to the £113billion lost in services exports reported in Surfer's post above, and the the £1billion lost in dairy exports from January to March this year, and ... etc, etc, etc.  I'll let you do the maths.

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1 hour ago, dj11 said:

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18 minutes ago, Yellow Fever said:

You just couldn't make this up. Unbelievable.

You really couldn't, Tim Martin - what a ******* idiot.

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With unemployment so high they are saying they can't get the staff to clean tables and other mundane jobs. Simple enough they don't pay these people enough  

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17 minutes ago, SwindonCanary said:

With unemployment so high they are saying they can't get the staff to clean tables and other mundane jobs. Simple enough they don't pay these people enough  

So, despite unemployment being high, they still can't fill mundane jobs... I'd imagine fruit picking is a similarly needy industry in that respect. I wonder who used to make up the bulk of the workforce and why we are suddenly having issues filling these jobs when we never have had problems in the past?

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5 minutes ago, kick it off said:

So, despite unemployment being high, they still can't fill mundane jobs... I'd imagine fruit picking is a similarly needy industry in that respect. I wonder who used to make up the bulk of the workforce and why we are suddenly having issues filling these jobs when we never have had problems in the past?

What we need is some sort of scheme that allows workers to move here freely, particularly from countries close to us and from the former Eastern Bloc where I understand the wages are lower. It would be a great boon for agriculture, care homes & the NHS. Anyone got any ideas?

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I think we first need to force the unemployed British workers into these jobs before we add additional overseas economic parasites into the British economy. If it requires cutting or even eliminating unemployment benefits so be it, we have solved this kind of problem before, and we can do it again....... 

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3 hours ago, SwindonCanary said:

With unemployment so high they are saying they can't get the staff to clean tables and other mundane jobs. Simple enough they don't pay these people enough  

Thanks for pointing out another lie that was told us by Farage and Jools. They both told us the Europeans are taking the British jobs and Brits would be queuing up for the jobs. The farms are in an horrendous situation nobody wants to pick what they grow.

Oh well as Stan would say ‘ another fine mess you’ve got us into ‘.

Maybe Farage should try doing the jobs or maybe he is to comfortable on his EU pension and the expenses he ripped off the EU for which British tax payers will be paying for for years.

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"Wetherspoons. A great place to work."

 

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1 hour ago, Creative Midfielder said:

Just Brexiteers having fun 😂

Blimey, 9 officers for one unarmed guy just wanting a kebab and a pint.

 

Should have just bought him a drink and he would have gone peaceful! 😂

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6 hours ago, Well b back said:

Thanks for pointing out another lie that was told us by Farage and Jools. They both told us the Europeans are taking the British jobs and Brits would be queuing up for the jobs. The farms are in an horrendous situation nobody wants to pick what they grow.

Oh well as Stan would say ‘ another fine mess you’ve got us into ‘.

Maybe Farage should try doing the jobs or maybe he is to comfortable on his EU pension and the expenses he ripped off the EU for which British tax payers will be paying for for years.

So you think bar workers are paid a good wage ?  I'd like to see you live off it.

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Anybody see the C4 'Anti-Vaxer' documentary last night.

Truly shocking how 'snake-oil' salesmen prey on the vulnerable.

Reminded me of one or two leading Brexiteers who also prey on the vulnerable who were looking/needed somebody else to blame - and a nice little (or big) earner too.

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19 minutes ago, SwindonCanary said:

So you think bar workers are paid a good wage ?  I'd like to see you live off it.

So why the fu*ck did you vote for a brexit deal that makes it possible (indeed inevitable) for a lowering of workers rights? I guess you also haven't read Rabb, Truss, Patel's (et al) book which argues precisely for a radical reduction in workers rights.

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1 hour ago, horsefly said:

So why the fu*ck did you vote for a brexit deal that makes it possible (indeed inevitable) for a lowering of workers rights? I guess you also haven't read Rabb, Truss, Patel's (et al) book which argues precisely for a radical reduction in workers rights.

This is the old chestnut that has bamboozled our Brexity friends.

I would have fewer arguments with Brexit if it was sold properly and we cut all state benefits (including pensions) and go for a US model. That would make economic sense and energize the economy if extremely painful for many. Uncompetitive fishermen, farmers go bust - so what - they can always flip imported burgers. This is the true ERG dream.

Instead we have our Brexity friends sold on European social structures and benefits - protectionism,  but without easy access to their similarly protected high standard markets - and left with trying to compete now globally on lowest price goods. What could possibly go wrong?

Stupid is as stupid does.

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1 hour ago, SwindonCanary said:

So you think bar workers are paid a good wage ?  I'd like to see you live off it.

The whole Brexit immigration argument was that we wouldn't let C2DE semi and unskilled immigration workers into the country unless there was a dire need, and this would drive up workers wages for the British citizens. Tim Martin now seems to have done a total 180 on his position.

 

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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9643725/Lord-Frost-demands-EU-shows-common-sense-Northern-Ireland.html

Lord Frost criticises Lord Frost for negotiating a bad deal. Lord Frost continuously makes Lord Frost look stupid by saying the same thing over and over again despite people telling Lord Frost that the person who he's really criticising is Lord Frost. 

 

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3 hours ago, SwindonCanary said:

So you think bar workers are paid a good wage ?  I'd like to see you live off it.

Wow, for once you are half right which is noteworthy in itself but you are still missing the main points.

The Tories and Brexiteers, mostly the same thing nowadays keep telling us that the market, i.e. private enterprise works best in all areas even in public services, even though this countries is absolutely littered with proofs that this is not the case, and they also told lots of lies about freedom of movement in the Single Market.

Lie 1: that workers from the EU, especially the eastern Europeans, were depriving British people of jobs that they wanted but failed to get  because the EU workers were prepared to work for less money. Well that was a lie, as we knew all along, because the EU workers have gone/no longer allowed in and, with as you say many UK unemployed, still nobody wants these jobs.

Lie 2: that workers from the EU, especially the eastern Europeans, were depressing wages generally in certain sectors of the econmoy because that they were prepared to work for lower wages and that if they left then wages in the UK would rise in those areas. Well you pose the question yourself - is Tim Martin going to give all his workers a significant pay rise to attract in the staff he needs - of course he bl00dy isn't. Are social care workers, of which there has been a desperate shortage for many years and who are still earning peanuts, going to be paid a reasonable price for the valuble work they do?  No chance!!!!

Even nurses, of which there has also been a desperate shortage for at least the last 6 years (and probably longer) and who endured 8 years of no pay rises underTory austerity (so when inflation is factored in, 8 years of pay cuts) and are now only going to get half the pretty meagre rise they were promised last year.

None of this is either inevitable or accidental, it is the result of electing a bunch of incompetent liars who are completely  unconcerned about the best interests of the UK. As long as they keep their backers. i.e. the  hedge funds and the rest of the dodgy money happy, and they can continue to fool enough mugs like you to keep voting for them then this is the way the country is going to carry on, stumbling from one crisis to the next.

Other than the super rich, who are immune to all this, the rest of us of going to keep getting poorer whilst we also see our public services degrade further - not a pretty picture but one we are definitely locked into for the next 3-4 years and most likely even longer.   😠😠

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5 hours ago, SwindonCanary said:

So you think bar workers are paid a good wage ?  I'd like to see you live off it.

I don’t but anyone that voted for Brexit did as Jools constantly tells us as did Farage British jobs for Brits. Now because of your hatred of Europeans there are no EU workers to take the jobs and like you say Brits were never going to take them, so I have no idea why Farage said they would.

You have just exposed another blatant lie so thank you.

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Who the **** drinks in Wetherspoons anyway? Just to get a cheaper pint? I like to savour my beer and I don't mind paying more for a better place to drink it in. Our local Wetherspoons is just a place for the Alkies to get a drink at 8am. They tend to leave the cooked breakfast they ordered with it.

Tim Martin is another gob****e who pretends he is a caring licensee. In fact, he has a load of booze barns.

And he isn't going to pay any more than he has to despite all his rantings that the UK will be a better place for workers after Brexit.

 

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38 minutes ago, Well b back said:

I don’t but anyone that voted for Brexit did as Jools constantly tells us as did Farage British jobs for Brits. Now because of your hatred of Europeans there are no EU workers to take the jobs and like you say Brits were never going to take them, so I have no idea why Farage said they would.

You have just exposed another blatant lie so thank you.

I don't hate Europeans I hate the EU 

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26 minutes ago, SwindonCanary said:

I don't hate Europeans I hate the EU 

So it wasn’t EU workers that went home ( nurses as well ). Did you actually understand this was what Farage was telling you ? Claiming the jobs you wouldn’t take but you expected other Brits to take. 
You voted for it, you go and do it because the British are not interested unlike the lies you spun.

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