The Positive Brexit Thread

[kirku 1,332]

13 hours ago, Herman said:

A list of people who are already or will be under the brexit bus. 

Musicians. 

Fishermen. 

Farmers. 

Ex-pats. 

Children. 

Food producers. 

Hauliers. 

Any more to add? 

Furriners?

[SwindonCanary 455]

1 hour ago, horsefly said:

Oh dear bird-brain, let me help you out. Shops previously forced to close due to Covid-19 restrictions reported an increase in sales when they are allowed to open again.

It's up 9% on before the virus ! Who's the bird brain now !

Edited May 21, 2021 by SwindonCanary

[Herman 9,754]

42 minutes ago, kirku said:

Furriners?

Aye, but I think they're quite happy with that one. 

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38 minutes ago, SwindonCanary said:

It's up 9% on before the virus ! Who's the bird brain now !

You of course things are increasing at record highs, they decreased to record lows.

And anyway what on earth does it have to do with Brexit, everywhere else reports this in their COVID news stories except you.

[horsefly 4,297]

52 minutes ago, SwindonCanary said:

It's up 9% on before the virus ! Who's the bird brain now !

You, idiot!

[horsefly 4,297]

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/no-10-fails-to-guarantee-keeping-ban-on-hormone-injected-beef-in-australia-trade-deal/ar-AAKeKfM?ocid=msedgntp

No 10 fails to guarantee keeping ban on hormone-injected beef in Australia trade deal

No 10 has refused to guarantee that a ban on hormone-injected beef will remain in place in the trade deal with Australia, set to be sealed within weeks.

Boris Johnson’s spokesman insisted the UK will not “compromise on our animal welfare or food standards” – but declined, four times, to give an explicit commitment on the use of hormones.

Instead, he said only that food allowed in under future deals will “have to comply with our import requirements”, without setting out what they would be.

The words fell far short of the guarantee given, last year, by both Liz Truss, the trade secretary, and the environment secretary George Eustice – who are now locked in a fierce spat over the Australia deal.

In November, the pair wrote: “Chlorinated chicken and hormone-injected beef are already banned in the UK and we will not negotiate to remove that ban in a trade deal.”

Australia is known to have demanded, as far back as 2018, that Britain accepts hormone-treated beef imports as the price of a symbolic early post-Brexit trade agreement.

The practice is widespread in Australia and the EU has claimed at least one of the hormones used by cattle farmers is carcinogenic – something fiercely disputed by Canberra.

The government has guaranteed that “any changes to existing food safety legislation would require new legislation to be brought before parliament”.

But some MPs remain suspicious that changes could be made using regulations, rather than primary legislation – using so-called ‘Henry VIII powers’ to bypass MPs.

Anne McIntosh, a Conservative peer and campaigner, told The Independent: “The government must honour its commitment to keep the trust of the British people, one million of whom signed the petition calling for such a safeguard.

“That means no entry for any beef from Australia or elsewhere produced with hormones or in other ways does not meet our standards.”

[PurpleCanary 5,557]

16 hours ago, Herman said:

A list of people who are already or will be under the brexit bus. 

Musicians. 

Fishermen. 

Farmers. 

Ex-pats. 

Children. 

Food producers. 

Hauliers. 

Any more to add? 

The NHS.

The UK service industry.

Norwich City Football Club.

Easier to make a list of those not scr*wed by Brexit.

[horsefly 4,297]

7 minutes ago, PurpleCanary said:

The NHS.

The UK service industry.

Norwich City Football Club.

Easier to make a list of those not scr*wed by Brexit.

You're right, here's my list:

All those Tories who moved their businesses to the EU or abroad.

That's it!

Edited May 21, 2021 by horsefly

[kirku 1,332]

"The UK has offered trade deal terms to Australia under which both countries would phase out taxes on imports over 15 years"

This is pathetic

[SwindonCanary 455]

https://youtu.be/3IWzajNbrek

 

[Herman 9,754]

More covid news.⬆️

Put it in the right thread please.

[SwindonCanary 455]

1 hour ago, Herman said:

More covid news.⬆️

Put it in the right thread please.

Getting ratty are we? Don't like a few home truths about your beloved EU or fellow EUrophiles?

I get fed up with your masters constantly trying to do the UK down at every opportunity. Everyone knows that they don't want us to do well so they put obstacles in out way.  

[Herman 9,754]

Not at all Swindo. Here are the basics that show that this "boom" is entirely predictable and has more to do with covid than brexit so it should go into the covid thread.

Shops and businesses shut = no customers,no sales. Incoming money slows down to a trickle.

Shops and businesses open = customers and sales. Incoming money rises to a steady flow.

Here is an example from Australia, using nature as an explainer.

No rain = drought.

Rain = flowing rivers.

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/may/22/after-the-deluge-australias-outback-springs-to-life-as-mighty-rivers-flow-again

Hope this helps you and Mr Heaver.

[horsefly 4,297]

13 minutes ago, SwindonCanary said:

Getting ratty are we? Don't like a few home truths about your beloved EU or fellow EUrophiles?

I get fed up with your masters constantly trying to do the UK down at every opportunity. Everyone knows that they don't want us to do well so they put obstacles in out way.  

Why do you continue to post videos from that drooling buffoon that no sane individual takes seriously. And why can't you get into your thick head that sales obviously surge from a time when you move from lockdown to the removal from lockdown? 5-year-olds can get this, why can't you? And finally, Herman is right, this has F all to do with brexit.

[A Load of Squit 5,161]

Why are we wasting time and valuable TV hours on a Saturday night on the Eurovision Song Contest. We've left the EU. We need a Great British Song Contest hosted by a Great British patriots like Laurence Fox and Stanley Johnson.

Instead we're going to have to suffer the humiliation of Europe ganging up on us 'cos we had the courage to leave their corrupt organisation. The EUSSR can stick their stupid 'bing bong' songs, I'll be listening to Chas and Dave singing about trips to Margate and The Singing Postman reminiscing about his little Miss from Diss.

Let's not forget that the best Eurovision winner ever was a celebration of Wellingtons victory over Napolean, they should've ended it there.

 

 

Edited May 22, 2021 by A Load of Squit

[SwindonCanary 455]

1 hour ago, horsefly said:

Why do you continue to post videos from that drooling buffoon that no sane individual takes seriously. And why can't you get into your thick head that sales obviously surge from a time when you move from lockdown to the removal from lockdown? 5-year-olds can get this, why can't you? And finally, Herman is right, this has F all to do with brexit.

Why do you insist it's because of the virus when I pointed out that it's better than before the virus ?

[horsefly 4,297]

2 minutes ago, SwindonCanary said:

Why do you insist it's because of the virus when I pointed out that it's better than before the virus ?

It's not

[SwindonCanary 455]

[SwindonCanary 455]

[PurpleCanary 5,557]

1 hour ago, A Load of Squit said:

Why are we wasting time and valuable TV hours on a Saturday night on the Eurovision Song Contest. We've left the EU. We need a Great British Song Contest hosted by a Great British patriots like Laurence Fox and Stanley Johnson.

Instead we're going to have to suffer the humiliation of Europe ganging up on us 'cos we had the courage to leave their corrupt organisation. The EUSSR can stick their stupid 'bing bong' songs, I'll be listening to Chas and Dave singing about trips to Margate and The Singing Postman reminiscing about his little Miss from Diss.

Let's not forget that the best Eurovision winner ever was a celebration of Wellingtons victory over Napolean, they should've ended it there.

 

 

True but by a group from a country of mamby-pamby tree-hugging lefties that stayed neutral in both world wars and is in the EU...

PS. Please can posters refrain from pointing out to Swindon yet again how percentage rises and falls work? If he hasn't got it by now he never will.

Edited May 22, 2021 by PurpleCanary

[keelansgrandad 6,679]

13 minutes ago, SwindonCanary said:

Dear oh dear. Oh dear oh dear. I would ask you to work it out with a pencil but shudder to think what you might do.

[SwindonCanary 455]

37 minutes ago, keelansgrandad said:

Dear oh dear. Oh dear oh dear. I would ask you to work it out with a pencil but shudder to think what you might do.

That's it turn a blind eye to good news = You don't want to hear any.

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2 hours ago, SwindonCanary said:

That's it turn a blind eye to good news = You don't want to hear any.

OMG

It is to do with COVID full stop. America are expanding at a much higher rate, due to COVID recovery, or are you telling us they left the EU as well.

[keelansgrandad 6,679]

2 hours ago, SwindonCanary said:

That's it turn a blind eye to good news = You don't want to hear any.

Of course its good news. But it just means that with the lifting of restrictions, the economy is clawing its way back to normality, it doesn't mean the boom has anything to do with the Government or Brexit. Its just a natural occurrence.

 

[Rock The Boat 1,329]

On 21/05/2021 at 13:58, horsefly said:

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/no-10-fails-to-guarantee-keeping-ban-on-hormone-injected-beef-in-australia-trade-deal/ar-AAKeKfM?ocid=msedgntp

No 10 fails to guarantee keeping ban on hormone-injected beef in Australia trade deal

No 10 has refused to guarantee that a ban on hormone-injected beef will remain in place in the trade deal with Australia, set to be sealed within weeks.

Boris Johnson’s spokesman insisted the UK will not “compromise on our animal welfare or food standards” – but declined, four times, to give an explicit commitment on the use of hormones.

Instead, he said only that food allowed in under future deals will “have to comply with our import requirements”, without setting out what they would be.

The words fell far short of the guarantee given, last year, by both Liz Truss, the trade secretary, and the environment secretary George Eustice – who are now locked in a fierce spat over the Australia deal.

In November, the pair wrote: “Chlorinated chicken and hormone-injected beef are already banned in the UK and we will not negotiate to remove that ban in a trade deal.”

Australia is known to have demanded, as far back as 2018, that Britain accepts hormone-treated beef imports as the price of a symbolic early post-Brexit trade agreement.

The practice is widespread in Australia and the EU has claimed at least one of the hormones used by cattle farmers is carcinogenic – something fiercely disputed by Canberra.

The government has guaranteed that “any changes to existing food safety legislation would require new legislation to be brought before parliament”.

But some MPs remain suspicious that changes could be made using regulations, rather than primary legislation – using so-called ‘Henry VIII powers’ to bypass MPs.

Anne McIntosh, a Conservative peer and campaigner, told The Independent: “The government must honour its commitment to keep the trust of the British people, one million of whom signed the petition calling for such a safeguard.

“That means no entry for any beef from Australia or elsewhere produced with hormones or in other ways does not meet our standards.”

So all those quotes from the Government that hormone-fed beef are not part of the trade deal and still the Independent finds a way to write an article to obfuscate the picture. Let's be 100% clear, Australian hormone-treated beef is excluded from the trade deal.

Before this deal 91% of beef imported to the UK came from the EU and only 1% from Australia. Yet somehow NFU leaders (and not the farmers themselves) maintain that tariff-free beef is fine from the EU but not from Australia.

The NFU are like the CBI, both are pro-remain organisations whose members are chiefly pro-leave. Similar to the Labour party whose leaders are pro-remain yet whose supporters among the Red Wall are pro-leavers. It's the Labour party, NFU and the CBI who need to make the adjustments. The OZ-UK trade deal in Red Wall areas has 87% approval ratings.

Australia could hardly be closer in commercial practices, legal norms, accountancy systems, political institutions, regulatory standards, professional qualifications, wage levels or sentimental links to the UK. Their seasonal cycle is the exact opposite to the UK's which is a benefit when trading in agricultural produce. It is a great deal for Scotland, too, with all tariffs on whisky removed.

 

[Herman 9,754]

"The OZ-UK trade deal in Red Wall areas has 87% approval ratings."

This poll was taken by the IFT, which has Daniel Hannan as its head and is filled with partisan, brexit headbangers. It's as honest as you.

"Before this deal 91% of beef imported to the UK came from the EU and only 1% from Australia. Yet somehow NFU leaders (and not the farmers themselves) maintain that tariff-free beef is fine from the EU but not from Australia."

It's the scale of Australian farms that is the problem. We have herds in the hundreds. They have herds well into the thousands. They can produce meat at a far cheaper price that would make our farmers unsustainable.

 

[horsefly 4,297]

50 minutes ago, Rock The Boat said:

So all those quotes from the Government that hormone-fed beef are not part of the trade deal and still the Independent finds a way to write an article to obfuscate the picture. Let's be 100% clear, Australian hormone-treated beef is excluded from the trade deal.

Before this deal 91% of beef imported to the UK came from the EU and only 1% from Australia. Yet somehow NFU leaders (and not the farmers themselves) maintain that tariff-free beef is fine from the EU but not from Australia.

The NFU are like the CBI, both are pro-remain organisations whose members are chiefly pro-leave. Similar to the Labour party whose leaders are pro-remain yet whose supporters among the Red Wall are pro-leavers. It's the Labour party, NFU and the CBI who need to make the adjustments. The OZ-UK trade deal in Red Wall areas has 87% approval ratings.

Australia could hardly be closer in commercial practices, legal norms, accountancy systems, political institutions, regulatory standards, professional qualifications, wage levels or sentimental links to the UK. Their seasonal cycle is the exact opposite to the UK's which is a benefit when trading in agricultural produce. It is a great deal for Scotland, too, with all tariffs on whisky removed.

 

More tosh from the degenerate moron

[Van wink 2,994]

Nil Points 😂

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29 minutes ago, Van wink said:

Nil Points 😂

Did Nigel and Boris do a duet ?

[Van wink 2,994]

21 minutes ago, Well b back said:

Did Nigel and Boris do a duet ?

It was a trio with Angela