The Positive Brexit Thread

[sonyc 5,492]

40 minutes ago, horsefly said:

Posters may recall that before the pandemic kicked off the Telegraph published a leaked email from a top advisor to Cummings and Johnson which argued that the government should give up on supporting the agriculture industry as we could source all the UK's food needs from overseas. It looks like Truss has taken that advice to heart and is determined to drive farmers off the land and flood the market with inferior substandard food from abroad. That would conveniently leave plenty of our countryside open to be destroyed with vast housing estates developed by Tory Party donors. 

Indeed Horsefly.

And...I believe there is a bigger picture and I posted a link a good while back, maybe even a year ago. The risks are neatly summarised here. Much of this has been trailed here before but No.2 ("race to the bottom") is most pertinent. Big bucks to be made and huge investment opportunities. That's what this so-called "one nation" Tory party are after.

https://www.soilassociation.org/causes-campaigns/top-10-risks-from-a-uk-us-trade-deal/

Edited May 19, 2021 by sonyc

[horsefly 4,287]

The utter stupidity of john Redwood never ceases to amaze:

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/don-t-need-eu-tory-mp-vows-to-boycott-european-holidays-after-trade-deal-chaos/ar-BB1gTutS?ocid=msedgntp

Mixing up the regulations required by the disastrous brexit deal (that he supported) with the relaxation of covid regulations concerning european travel, is about as dumb as it gets. Not only that, one sure way of guaranteeing that the EU will continue strict enforcement of the NI protocol is for Redwood to promise he will not visit the EU if they do so.

[Herman 9,717]

The head of the NFU has just been on radio. An interesting and not simply a negative view of a trade deal but a lot of her hopes rely on Johnson not breaking his word. There goes farming in other words. 

 

Edited May 19, 2021 by Herman

[A Load of Squit 5,135]

4 minutes ago, horsefly said:

The utter stupidity of john Redwood never ceases to amaze:

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/don-t-need-eu-tory-mp-vows-to-boycott-european-holidays-after-trade-deal-chaos/ar-BB1gTutS?ocid=msedgntp

Mixing up the regulations required by the disastrous brexit deal (that he supported) with the relaxation of covid regulations concerning european travel, is about as dumb as it gets. Not only that, one sure way of guaranteeing that the EU will continue strict enforcement of the NI protocol is for Redwood to promise he will not visit the EU if they do so.

They're trying to punish us for leaving by making us go to their Covid ravaged countries and when we get there they will insist we consume their phyto sanitary certified food and drink. Then they'll drug us and drain our Covid free blood from our bodies and replace it with EU infected blood. 

This is all true as I read it on brexitfacts4u.com and EUrbastards.co.uk. 😀

 

[horsefly 4,287]

Blimey! Tory Peter Bone gets something right at last:

 

Edited May 19, 2021 by horsefly

[Yellow Fever 3,749]

If I decide to formally retire can George please send me the £50K or £100K. I'll send a SAE to save a few pennies.

Utterly, utterly crass.

Edited May 19, 2021 by Yellow Fever

[SwindonCanary 455]

https://youtu.be/hBZYLax0z98

 

[A Load of Squit 5,135]

8 minutes ago, SwindonCanary said:

https://youtu.be/hBZYLax0z98

 

These are the people who reply to this nonsense.

"WHY WHY are we still talking to them?. Tell them to shove their deal where the son don't shine."

"Even if we have to dig a tunnel, just let us escape."

"As not got the balls to upset his little friends from the EU. But let the UK suffer"

"Don't need to implement a force majeur, the Act of Union precedes and outranks the WA."

RWNJ's and Swindon thinks we should be pleased he's associated with them. 🤣

[SwindonCanary 455]

https://youtu.be/NkpKuBywLoQ

 

[horsefly 4,287]

https://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/poll-more-than-half-of-scots-believe-boris-johnson-is-corrupt-3213286

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/apr/24/four-out-of-10-voters-think-the-conservatives-are-untrustworthy-says-poll

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/boris-johnson-sleaze-poll-dishonesty-b1844203.html

[Herman 9,717]

Big sugar rears its ugly head again. (Part of a good thread explaining how an Australian deal would not be good for Truss.)

 

[horsefly 4,287]

55 minutes ago, Herman said:

Big sugar rears its ugly head again. (Part of a good thread explaining how an Australian deal would not be good for Truss.)

 

Johnson's comments yesterday about how the countryside should not be "pickled in aspic" were something of a giveaway regarding this government's intentions towards its agricultural and rural inheritance. In essence, fu*ck the farmers, they're just sitting on billions of pounds of potential prime real estate ripe for development by Tory donors. Allow foreign factory farms to flood our market with sub-standard tariff-free produce and you yield up vast swathes of the UK countryside to turn into housing estates. Truss has proved herself to be a scruple-free zone on many occasions, and I'm sure Boris has promised her a cosy seat in the Lords as reward for her ideological commitment to the cause. I suspect a few seats are already being warmed on the boards of a few house building companies in anticipation.

Edited May 20, 2021 by horsefly

[kirku 1,332]

3 hours ago, horsefly said:

Johnson's comments yesterday about how the countryside should not be "pickled in aspic" were something of a giveaway regarding this government's intentions towards its agricultural and rural inheritance. In essence, fu*ck the farmers, they're just sitting on billions of pounds of potential prime real estate ripe for development by Tory donors. Allow foreign factory farms to flood our market with sub-standard tariff-free produce and you yield up vast swathes of the UK countryside to turn into housing estates. Truss has proved herself to be a scruple-free zone on many occasions, and I'm sure Boris has promised her a cosy seat in the Lords as reward for her ideological commitment to the cause. I suspect a few seats are already being warmed on the boards of a few house building companies in anticipation.

Yes and those who like to rant on about the "blitz spirit" (despite not being alive for it) are happily cheerleading a party who would seemingly be happy to trash even the vague notion of food security...

[keelansgrandad 6,679]

Standard Tory answer, they're all at it.

[A Load of Squit 5,135]

 

https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/gkn-automotive-confirms-erdington-plant-20632622

"A Birmingham automotive factory is set to close with the loss of more than 500 jobs"

"In January staff had been told of the closure plan with work to be transferred to Europe."

[A Load of Squit 5,135]

This is shocking, 13% of Conservative voters in red wall constituencies have some intelligence. Who knew it was so high?

 

[horsefly 4,287]

It just gets worse:

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/brexit-news-live-uk-didn-t-get-deal-it-wanted-for-ni-frost-admits-as-britain-desperate-over-trade-talks/ar-AAKbqPj?ocid=msedgntp

The UK did not secure the Brexit deal it wanted for Northern Ireland, the former chief negotiatior David Frost has admitted.

Speaking toThe Spectator, the minister blamed the pressure the government faced in late 2019 for the disappointing result.

His words paint a different picture from Boris Johnson’s assurances in November 2019 that Northern Ireland had “a great deal”.

In other Brexit-related news, an expert has accused the government of appearing “desperate” in its attempts to strike free trade deals.

David Henig, the co-founder of the UK Trade Forum, told the BBC Radio 4’s Today programme that a deal with Australia will set a precedent for future ones with other major agricultural exporters like New Zealand and the US.

He suggested it was not “the smartest of moves” for the UK to strive for a deal by the G7 Summit on 11 June, as this gives Australia a stronger bargaining position.

“We are desperate to get those deals - that’s the modus operandi of this government. We need to hope they are going to be the right deals and balance all the different interests,” Mr Henig said.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/rspca-farmers-brexit-australia-mulesing-b1850143.html

The RSPCA is up in arms over Boris Johnson’s plans for a free-trade deal with Australia that would mean the UK buying the produce of practices considered too cruel to be carried out in Britain.

The animal-welfare charity is warning giving the country tariff-free access to the UK would “betray the public, farmers and animals” and could set back animal welfare by decades.

[kirku 1,332]

[SwindonCanary 455]

[Herman 9,717]

4 hours ago, A Load of Squit said:

This is shocking, 13% of Conservative voters in red wall constituencies have some intelligence. Who knew it was so high?

 

The IFT.😀

Just seen who is the President. And look at the rest of the headbangers.

https://www.ifreetrade.org/about

[keelansgrandad 6,679]

1 hour ago, SwindonCanary said:

She is right. If we want to challenge this bunch of crooks, we have to attack them, not keep agreeing with them.

[SwindonCanary 455]

[Well b back 3,190]

1 hour ago, SwindonCanary said:

Thanks again for another COVID story

[Herman 9,717]

A list of people who are already or will be under the brexit bus. 

Musicians. 

Fishermen. 

Farmers. 

Ex-pats. 

Children. 

Food producers. 

Hauliers. 

Any more to add? 

[Herman 9,717]

Well done brexiters.

‘Era of being a UK-based concert artist is pretty much over’ – musicians share their Brexit realities.

https://www.classicfm.com/music-news/era-uk-concert-musician-over-brexit-touring-stories/

[SwindonCanary 455]

1. Retailers enjoyed a surge in spending as shoppers flocked to UK high streets following the easing of restrictions

[A Load of Squit 5,135]

9 minutes ago, SwindonCanary said:

1. Retailers enjoyed a surge in spending as shoppers flocked to UK high streets following the easing of restrictions

That's another Covid story.

[Well b back 3,190]

22 minutes ago, SwindonCanary said:

1. Retailers enjoyed a surge in spending as shoppers flocked to UK high streets following the easing of restrictions

Yet another COVID story. It states also that people are going out buying new clothes for their trips out as restrictions are eased. Maybe you think they are all buying Union Jack dresses and suits ( ala Spice Girls ) to celebrate no longer being part of the EU. 

[Herman 9,717]

What everyone predicted is actually happening. Well done Swindo. 😀

[horsefly 4,287]

1 hour ago, SwindonCanary said:

1. Retailers enjoyed a surge in spending as shoppers flocked to UK high streets following the easing of restrictions

Oh dear bird-brain, let me help you out. Shops previously forced to close due to Covid-19 restrictions reported an increase in sales when they are allowed to open again.