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As some of us have to work today I'll leave it as something for you and Swindo to do.👍

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11 hours ago, SwindonCanary said:

How's all your negative Brexit comments get on here ?  I know loads of you lot are against Boris so must be supporting Labour I'm just pointing out  that you lot are wrong once again like Brexit 

They’re not negative for the sake of it. They’re what’s happening in the real world. Not everybody is a mindless fool like you who has been brainwashed by the Boris cult. You’re basically a sheep mate. 

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48 minutes ago, (Hoola)Han Solo said:

They’re not negative for the sake of it. They’re what’s happening in the real world. Not everybody is a mindless fool like you who has been brainwashed by the Boris cult. You’re basically a sheep mate. 

just pointing out that it's a positive Brexit thread,  as you had a go at me for putting up how poor Labour were.

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2 minutes ago, SwindonCanary said:

just pointing out that it's a positive Brexit thread,  as you had a go at me for putting up how poor Labour were.

You have been challenged many, many times to come up with the name of a UK company or industry that claims to have benefited from brexit. We have pointed out the thousands that flood the internet claiming to have lost out because of brexit. For example, you have still said nothing about the £1.1bn lost by the dairy industry since January. So, since you keep banging on about it, I'm looking forward to your "positive" list of companies that have said they have benefited from brexit

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7 minutes ago, SwindonCanary said:

And you never mention how well the EU are doing  but I don't worry about it 

Only a fool would not be worried when his country's main market for exports (circa 50%) is suffering losses because of decisions his own country made. The EU didn't choose brexit you buffoon. Are you really trying to claim that it's ok that brexit has seriously screwed up UK industry because it also screwed up the EU too? Is this some perverse variant on the normal "win-win" aim of a standard trade deal? Are we now pursuing a "lose-lose" strategy?

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44 minutes ago, SwindonCanary said:

still not giving the EU any credit 

Despite the fact you and Johnson told us how bad the EU vaccine roll out was going, ( which had nothing to do with Brexit ) neither of you seem to want to talk about it anymore ? Without telling Johnson’s do you have any reason for that ?

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1 hour ago, SwindonCanary said:

still not giving the EU any credit 

Thanks to brexit the Dutch seem to be doing nicely at the UK's expense:

This was happening two years prior to our departure from the EU

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/feb/09/brexit-uk-companies-discuss-moving-to-netherlands

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/brexit-no-deal-uk-netherlands-company-relocation-a9080666.html

Reports from this year:

https://www.theneweuropean.co.uk/brexit-news/europe-news/firms-choose-netherlands-over-britain-due-to-brexit-7564056

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/jan/30/uk-firms-plan-to-shift-across-channel-after-brexit-chaos

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jan/26/brexit-dutch-warehouse-boom-as-uk-firms-forced-to-invest-abroad

Logistics and warehousing companies in the Netherlands are being inundated with requests from British businesses looking to rent warehouse space, as the country experiences a Brexit boom in investment and jobs.

Thousands of small businesses have been plunged into crisis by the UK’s departure from the EU, with exports to the continent collapsing because of delays at ports, increased shipping costs, and the sudden addition of VAT, customs duties, and in some cases tariffs, on shipments sent from the UK to customers within the bloc.

An absolute killer': small UK firms struggle with Brexit VAT rules

Many have been left with no option but to invest in distribution networks within the EU, and the Dutch logistics industry is reaping the rewards.

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Anyone knowing Billy on here always know the he likes to have the last word. Even if it is nonsense 

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18 minutes ago, SwindonCanary said:

Anyone knowing Billy on here always know the he likes to have the last word. Even if it is nonsense 

Everyone on here knows that nonsense is your stock in trade.

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22 minutes ago, Creative Midfielder said:

Everyone on here knows that nonsense is your stock in trade.

Same as you 

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https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-05-05/london-emerges-from-lockdown-harder-hit-than-much-of-the-u-k

The financial district also is suffering from Brexit, which ended the automatic right of banks to do business on the continent. More than 440 financial firms have moved some of their operations into the EU, resulting in about 7,400 job relocations and a 900 billion-pound ($1.2 trillion) shift of assets.

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1 hour ago, SwindonCanary said:

Anyone knowing Billy on here always know the he likes to have the last word. Even if it is nonsense 

For God sake do stop this ridiculous Billy nonsense. It's plain to see that your playground name calling is a very poorly disguised attempt to distract from the fact you have no answer to the links I have provided. Just grow up you sad child.

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48 minutes ago, SwindonCanary said:

Same as you 

Never really left the playground, have you?

I suppose that is one possible explanation for the continuous stream of childish and un/misinformed rubbish that you post........

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6 hours ago, Herman said:

As some of us have to work today.

New job? 🙃

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2 hours ago, horsefly said:

Thanks to brexit the Dutch seem to be doing nicely at the UK's expense:

This was happening two years prior to our departure from the EU

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/feb/09/brexit-uk-companies-discuss-moving-to-netherlands

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/brexit-no-deal-uk-netherlands-company-relocation-a9080666.html

Reports from this year:

https://www.theneweuropean.co.uk/brexit-news/europe-news/firms-choose-netherlands-over-britain-due-to-brexit-7564056

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/jan/30/uk-firms-plan-to-shift-across-channel-after-brexit-chaos

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jan/26/brexit-dutch-warehouse-boom-as-uk-firms-forced-to-invest-abroad

Logistics and warehousing companies in the Netherlands are being inundated with requests from British businesses looking to rent warehouse space, as the country experiences a Brexit boom in investment and jobs.

Thousands of small businesses have been plunged into crisis by the UK’s departure from the EU, with exports to the continent collapsing because of delays at ports, increased shipping costs, and the sudden addition of VAT, customs duties, and in some cases tariffs, on shipments sent from the UK to customers within the bloc.

An absolute killer': small UK firms struggle with Brexit VAT rules

Many have been left with no option but to invest in distribution networks within the EU, and the Dutch logistics industry is reaping the rewards.

This is b0ll0x. The Dutch are reaping the reward of French stupidity at Calais trying to make British exporters lives as difficult as possible. As a result companies are moving operations away from France to Holland. As was predicted a long time ago and as I said would happen if the French behaved like the idiots they are. 

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55 minutes ago, A Load of Squit said:

 

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-05-05/london-emerges-from-lockdown-harder-hit-than-much-of-the-u-k

The financial district also is suffering from Brexit, which ended the automatic right of banks to do business on the continent. More than 440 financial firms have moved some of their operations into the EU, resulting in about 7,400 job relocations and a 900 billion-pound ($1.2 trillion) shift of assets.

Correct. About 7000 jobs have moved. The project fear prediction was hundreds of thousands of jobs would move. Why were the predictions so wrong, can you tell us?

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9 minutes ago, Rock The Boat said:

Correct. About 7000 jobs have moved. The project fear prediction was hundreds of thousands of jobs would move. Why were the predictions so wrong, can you tell us?

How about you tell us who said 'hundreds of thousands'?

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1 hour ago, Rock The Boat said:

This is b0ll0x. The Dutch are reaping the reward of French stupidity at Calais trying to make British exporters lives as difficult as possible. As a result companies are moving operations away from France to Holland. As was predicted a long time ago and as I said would happen if the French behaved like the idiots they are. 

No links??? Or are we supposed to accept  the word of the immoral individual who described the young girls sexually assaulted by Epstein as "well paid prostitutes"?

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3 hours ago, Rock The Boat said:

This is b0ll0x. The Dutch are reaping the reward of French stupidity at Calais trying to make British exporters lives as difficult as possible. As a result companies are moving operations away from France to Holland. As was predicted a long time ago and as I said would happen if the French behaved like the idiots they are. 

You really are missing the point.

You wanted to Leave. You got your wish. Then afterwards, you wanted the group you left to bend over backwards to assist you.

That is the typical British John Bull, the French owe us after WWII, attitude that makes me understand why the group of 400M+ thinks us 70M are wingeing Poms.

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4 minutes ago, keelansgrandad said:

You really are missing the point.

You wanted to Leave. You got your wish. Then afterwards, you wanted the group you left to bend over backwards to assist you.

That is the typical British John Bull, the French owe us after WWII, attitude that makes me understand why the group of 400M+ thinks us 70M are wingeing Poms.

I think the realisation that the British aren't exceptional and a special case has really upset the Brexitty British exceptionalists.

 

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The extracts from Barnier's just-published diary are interesting, but most relevant to the here and now is this completely unsurprising example of perfidious Albion:

Right up until the end, Barnier writes, the British team kept the Europeans busy, submitting a final legal text on the fraught subject of fisheries on 23 December last year “stuffed with traps, pseudo-compromises and attempts to backtrack”.

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8 minutes ago, keelansgrandad said:

You really are missing the point.

You wanted to Leave. You got your wish. Then afterwards, you wanted the group you left to bend over backwards to assist you.

That is the typical British John Bull, the French owe us after WWII, attitude that makes me understand why the group of 400M+ thinks us 70M are wingeing Poms.

‘At least the Nazis kept the lights on’: UK blasts France for threat to cut off Jersey’s power

French ministers said they would cut off electricity to the Channel Island unless a row over Brexit fishing licences was resolved

Britain has attacked France for “unacceptable” threats to cut off Jersey’s electricity supplies in a row over Brexit fishing rights with government sources warning that not even the Channel Island’s **** occupiers sank so low. 

Annick Giradin, the French maritime minister,  said on Tuesday that Paris could shut down three undersea cables that provide Jersey with 95 percent of its electricity if the dispute over fishing licences in its waters were not resolved. 

Should France carry out its threat, there appears to be little the UK Government could do to provide alternative means of power. The remaining 5pc of the largest Channel Island’s energy mix is largely on-island diesel generators. 

"At least when the Germans invaded they kept the lights on," a government source said, referring to the five years of occupation during World War Two. 

"The problem is there is no undersea connector to Jersey, so it's not as though we could turn on a switch if they turn one off," another source said.

A third source said that the “surprising and disappointing” French threat was just the latest in a string of confrontations sparked by the EU and its members since Brexit. 

“This is just the latest example of the EU issuing threats as a first resort at any sign of difficulty. They should be using the mechanisms of our new Treaty to solve problems; that is exactly what it is there for.”

The UK-EU trade deal has a series of dispute resolution procedures, which can ultimately lead to the imposition of fines or trade tariffs. 

A government spokesperson said, “To threaten Jersey like this is clearly unacceptable and disproportionate. 

“We are working closely with the EU and Jersey on fisheries access provisions following the end of the Transition Period so trust the French will use the mechanisms of our new treaty to solve problems.”

“We are ready to use these retaliation measures," Ms Girardin told lawmakers in the French parliament on Tuesday. "I am sorry it has come to this. We will do so if we have to."

Jersey is a self-governing British Crown Dependency and, according to Defra, responsible for fishing in its territorial waters but its international relations are the UK’s responsibility. 

The row came after the island implemented new requirements under the terms of the UK-EU trade deal for boats to submit evidence of their past fishing activities in order to receive a licence to carry on operating in Jersey waters.

Jersey's External Relations Minister, Senator Ian Gorst  told the BBC Radio 4 Today programme: "This is not the first threat that the French have made to either Jersey or the United Kingdom since we are into this new deal.”

"It would seem disproportionate to cut off electricity for the sake of needing to provide extra details so that we can refine the licences."

Mr Gorst said the Jersey government was now seeking permission from London and Brussels to speak directly with the French fishermen to resolve the issue.

He said the island was not seeking to bar boats which had historically fished in Jersey waters and said that of the 41 boats which sought licences under the new rules last Friday, all but 17 had provided the evidence required.

No we don't want them to assist us, we merely want them to stop being cnuts.

 

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8 minutes ago, PurpleCanary said:

The extracts from Barnier's just-published diary are interesting, but most relevant to the here and now is this completely unsurprising example of perfidious Albion:

Right up until the end, Barnier writes, the British team kept the Europeans busy, submitting a final legal text on the fraught subject of fisheries on 23 December last year “stuffed with traps, pseudo-compromises and attempts to backtrack”.

I just saw this quote on May and Raab.

 

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1 hour ago, Rock The Boat said:

‘At least the Nazis kept the lights on’: UK blasts France for threat to cut off Jersey’s power

French ministers said they would cut off electricity to the Channel Island unless a row over Brexit fishing licences was resolved

Britain has attacked France for “unacceptable” threats to cut off Jersey’s electricity supplies in a row over Brexit fishing rights with government sources warning that not even the Channel Island’s **** occupiers sank so low. 

Annick Giradin, the French maritime minister,  said on Tuesday that Paris could shut down three undersea cables that provide Jersey with 95 percent of its electricity if the dispute over fishing licences in its waters were not resolved. 

Should France carry out its threat, there appears to be little the UK Government could do to provide alternative means of power. The remaining 5pc of the largest Channel Island’s energy mix is largely on-island diesel generators. 

"At least when the Germans invaded they kept the lights on," a government source said, referring to the five years of occupation during World War Two. 

"The problem is there is no undersea connector to Jersey, so it's not as though we could turn on a switch if they turn one off," another source said.

A third source said that the “surprising and disappointing” French threat was just the latest in a string of confrontations sparked by the EU and its members since Brexit. 

“This is just the latest example of the EU issuing threats as a first resort at any sign of difficulty. They should be using the mechanisms of our new Treaty to solve problems; that is exactly what it is there for.”

The UK-EU trade deal has a series of dispute resolution procedures, which can ultimately lead to the imposition of fines or trade tariffs. 

A government spokesperson said, “To threaten Jersey like this is clearly unacceptable and disproportionate. 

“We are working closely with the EU and Jersey on fisheries access provisions following the end of the Transition Period so trust the French will use the mechanisms of our new treaty to solve problems.”

“We are ready to use these retaliation measures," Ms Girardin told lawmakers in the French parliament on Tuesday. "I am sorry it has come to this. We will do so if we have to."

Jersey is a self-governing British Crown Dependency and, according to Defra, responsible for fishing in its territorial waters but its international relations are the UK’s responsibility. 

The row came after the island implemented new requirements under the terms of the UK-EU trade deal for boats to submit evidence of their past fishing activities in order to receive a licence to carry on operating in Jersey waters.

Jersey's External Relations Minister, Senator Ian Gorst  told the BBC Radio 4 Today programme: "This is not the first threat that the French have made to either Jersey or the United Kingdom since we are into this new deal.”

"It would seem disproportionate to cut off electricity for the sake of needing to provide extra details so that we can refine the licences."

Mr Gorst said the Jersey government was now seeking permission from London and Brussels to speak directly with the French fishermen to resolve the issue.

He said the island was not seeking to bar boats which had historically fished in Jersey waters and said that of the 41 boats which sought licences under the new rules last Friday, all but 17 had provided the evidence required.

No we don't want them to assist us, we merely want them to stop being cnuts.

 

I didn't think it would be our fault. Those dirty foreigners keep threatening us for no reason other than we lie and deceive.

I suppose no power means all those offshore accounts could go missing.

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I'm shocked. Jersey has electricity?!

Anyway, "War with France" is trending on twitter. Good vote winner. 😀

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21 minutes ago, Herman said:

I'm shocked. Jersey has electricity?!

Anyway, "War with France" is trending on twitter. Good vote winner. 😀

Aye, the BBC seem surprised that Boris supports Jersey 🤔 Of course sending two Royal Navy patrol vessels to monitor protestation will do Boris and the conservatives no harm at all tomorrow, no matter how the BBC or fellow Remainiacs try to spin it 🙃

One has to feel a tad sorry for Sir Kneel-alot (I don't) -- He isn't just hopeless & hapless, he's also terminally unlucky 😀

How's the refurbishment costs investigation going? 🤣

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55 minutes ago, Herman said:

I'm shocked. Jersey has electricity?!

My fellow residents on the tiny island of Alderney have told me to tell you to get out more 🙃

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