The Positive Brexit Thread

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2 hours ago, SwindonCanary said:

EU NIGHTMARE: Give free trade deal to nations who want to leave bloc, Boris told

A STRONG majority of people in Britain say the UK should offer a free trade partnership to other countries that want to leave the European Union.

You said it was The EU causing the problems and hatred, clearly another load of your boring s****

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The EU's mysterious missing lobbyists: why haven't firms been more active arguing against protectionism? (theconversation.com)

[Herman 9,758]

At least we have control of our borders.

 

[Herman 9,758]

On 21/04/2021 at 16:34, ricardo said:

Boris went in with his studs showing and the whole scheme fell apart😂

 

[SwindonCanary 455]

What is the point of the EU? Every member state has its own national Government. Why are their taxpayers forced to pay for an unnecessary extra layer of Government, which is incompetent, ineffective and corrupt and whose open border policies have destroyed Europe, and cost European taxpayers billions?

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13 minutes ago, SwindonCanary said:

What is the point of the EU? Every member state has its own national Government. Why are their taxpayers forced to pay for an unnecessary extra layer of Government, which is incompetent, ineffective and corrupt and whose open border policies have destroyed Europe, and cost European taxpayers billions?

As you pointed out the other day in a link there was major corruption by UKIP EU MPS, are you saying that’s ok ?

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50 minutes ago, Herman said:

 

I really struggle to have much sympathy with the Cornish fishermen here (apart from the far more sensible ones that voted Remain). 

Yes they were lied to  - and allowed themselves to be lied to along with many others. Stupid is as stupid does.

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17 hours ago, SwindonCanary said:

EU NIGHTMARE: Give free trade deal to nations who want to leave bloc, Boris told

A STRONG majority of people in Britain say the UK should offer a free trade partnership to other countries that want to leave the European Union.

Two very obvious problems with this. First there aren't any EU countries that want to leave the EU (as is backed up by all the popular opinion polls in those countries). Second, they will have seen just how "successful" our free trade deal with the EU has been.

Finally, could you explain why you find it impossible to provide links to this stuff you cut and paste?

[horsefly 4,298]

1 hour ago, SwindonCanary said:

What is the point of the EU? Every member state has its own national Government. Why are their taxpayers forced to pay for an unnecessary extra layer of Government, which is incompetent, ineffective and corrupt and whose open border policies have destroyed Europe, and cost European taxpayers billions?

Jesus! And you claim to be some kind of economic genius. But perhaps you can try to read and understand the following:

https://ec.europa.eu/trade/policy/eu-position-in-world-trade/

• The EU is the largest economy in the world. Although growth is projected to be slow, the EU remains the largest economy in the world with a GDP per head of €25 000 for its 500 million consumers.
• The EU is the world's largest trading block. The EU is the world’s largest trader of manufactured goods and services.
• The EU ranks first in both inbound and outbound international investments
• The EU is the top trading partner for 80 countries. By comparison the US is the top trading partner for a little over 20 countries.
• The EU is the most open to developing countries. Fuels excluded, the EU imports more from developing countries than the USA, Canada, Japan and China put together.

The EU benefits from being one of the most open economies in the world and remains committed to free trade.

• The average applied tariff for goods imported into the EU is very low. More than 70% of imports enter the EU at zero or reduced tariffs.
• The EU’s services markets are highly open and we have arguably the most open investment regime in the world.
• The EU has not reacted to the crisis by closing markets. However some the EU’s trading partners have not been so restrained as the EU has highlighted in the Trade and Investment Barriers Report.
• In fact the EU has retained its capacity to conclude and implement trade agreements. The recent Free Trade Agreements with South Korea and with Singapore are examples of this and the EU has an ambitious agenda of trade agreements in the pipeline.

The fact that the Office for Budget Responsibilty predicts at least a 4% decline in GDP as a result of brexit should tell you everything you need to know about the financial advantages of belonging in the EU. But of course a financial guru like yourself is clearly aware that an investment of cash into an organisation that yields far greater financial gains on that investment is always a sound deal. It would be insulting to suggest that you would think otherwise wouldn't it?

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54 minutes ago, horsefly said:

Jesus! And you claim to be some kind of economic genius. But perhaps you can try to read and understand the following:

https://ec.europa.eu/trade/policy/eu-position-in-world-trade/

• The EU is the largest economy in the world. Although growth is projected to be slow, the EU remains the largest economy in the world with a GDP per head of €25 000 for its 500 million consumers.
• The EU is the world's largest trading block. The EU is the world’s largest trader of manufactured goods and services.
• The EU ranks first in both inbound and outbound international investments
• The EU is the top trading partner for 80 countries. By comparison the US is the top trading partner for a little over 20 countries.
• The EU is the most open to developing countries. Fuels excluded, the EU imports more from developing countries than the USA, Canada, Japan and China put together.

The EU benefits from being one of the most open economies in the world and remains committed to free trade.

• The average applied tariff for goods imported into the EU is very low. More than 70% of imports enter the EU at zero or reduced tariffs.
• The EU’s services markets are highly open and we have arguably the most open investment regime in the world.
• The EU has not reacted to the crisis by closing markets. However some the EU’s trading partners have not been so restrained as the EU has highlighted in the Trade and Investment Barriers Report.
• In fact the EU has retained its capacity to conclude and implement trade agreements. The recent Free Trade Agreements with South Korea and with Singapore are examples of this and the EU has an ambitious agenda of trade agreements in the pipeline.

The fact that the Office for Budget Responsibilty predicts at least a 4% decline in GDP as a result of brexit should tell you everything you need to know about the financial advantages of belonging in the EU. But of course a financial guru like yourself is clearly aware that an investment of cash into an organisation that yields far greater financial gains on that investment is always a sound deal. It would be insulting to suggest that you would think otherwise wouldn't it?

So why is it so bad ?

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1 hour ago, horsefly said:

Two very obvious problems with this. First there aren't any EU countries that want to leave the EU (as is backed up by all the popular opinion polls in those countries). Second, they will have seen just how "successful" our free trade deal with the EU has been.

Finally, could you explain why you find it impossible to provide links to this stuff you cut and paste?

So why is Macron saying he will not have a referendum because the French would vote to leave ? 

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3 minutes ago, SwindonCanary said:

So why is Macron saying he will not have a referendum because the French would vote to leave ? 

Did he? Do you have any evidence he said that?

 

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19 minutes ago, SwindonCanary said:

So why is Macron saying he will not have a referendum because the French would vote to leave ? 

Have you just told a Johnson ? A Johnson by the way as an example is somebody that tells everybody he is totally against something ie The ESL, but forgets he had meetings 3 days before with Ed Woodward giving his support to the ESL and the English clubs.

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Remember that deal Johnson said was good deal?

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/apr/25/its-a-betrayal-cornish-fishing-vote-turns-against-tories-over-brexit-deal

The deal, he says, is the worst of all worlds. “It’s a complete sellout. It’s a betrayal. The deal we have got is lose-lose. We have got friction at the borders and they [EU fishing boats] have still got access to our waters.” Johnson has lost his support: “I can’t vote Conservative.”

 

[horsefly 4,298]

1 hour ago, SwindonCanary said:

So why is it so bad ?

Why is what "so bad"? I can only assume you mean brexit. We spent years telling you why brexit was a bad idea, only we got it wrong, it's a lot worse than we said.

Edited April 25, 2021 by horsefly

[horsefly 4,298]

1 hour ago, SwindonCanary said:

So why is Macron saying he will not have a referendum because the French would vote to leave ? 

Yet again, no link. I also suggest you take a look at the French opinion polls. They do NOT support leaving. Wbb is right "stop telling Johnsons"!

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1 hour ago, A Load of Squit said:

Did he? Do you have any evidence he said that?

 

In A Shocking Interview, Macron Admits France Would Vote To Leave EU If Referendum Held | Europe Reloaded

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23 minutes ago, horsefly said:

Why is what "so bad"? I can only assume you mean brexit. We spent years telling you why brexit was a bad idea, only we got it wrong, it's a lot worse than we said.

vaccine's ! 

[horsefly 4,298]

Vaccine's what? (And who is this Vaccine anyway? Very strange choice of name)

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42 minutes ago, SwindonCanary said:

In A Shocking Interview, Macron Admits France Would Vote To Leave EU If Referendum Held | Europe Reloaded

So that's a no then.

Another link where you've just read the headline.

 

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28 minutes ago, A Load of Squit said:

So that's a no then.

Another link where you've just read the headline.

 

just google it ! lazy people 

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16 minutes ago, SwindonCanary said:

just google it ! lazy people 

Just read it you lazy person. Macron says something very different.

Marr then pushed the French president, regarded by many as the EU’s new leader, on whether Britain’s decision was a one-off. Quoted by Express, the BBC journalist asked: “If France had had the same referendum, it might have had the same result?”

Macron responded: “Yes, probably, probably. Yes. In a similar context. But we have a very different context in France” 

Edited April 25, 2021 by horsefly

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Oh dear Jools, are you still this thread's greatest cheer leader for joing the CPTPP?

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/money/other/brexit-warning-as-cptpp-s-accession-could-be-similar-to-uk-s-bum-deal-with-europe/ar-BB1g1zKM?ocid=msedgdhp

Brexit warning as CPTPP's accession could be similar to UK's 'bum deal' with Europe

 

In an interview with Express.co.uk, though, Alan Winters, director of the Trade Policy Observatory at the University of Sussex, warned that Britain will have to accept the terms of its membership in CPTPP - without any saying in it.

He explained: "It is a done deal, and it can be a very straightforward done deal in the sense that the CPTPP is not going to negotiate.

"They are going to say 'here we are, you can join, here is where you sign'.

Dear old Nige must be very disappointed by your treachery.

 

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2 hours ago, SwindonCanary said:

In A Shocking Interview, Macron Admits France Would Vote To Leave EU If Referendum Held | Europe Reloaded

So it was a Johnson, you changed the context of what he said, therefore making it a lie and then spread your new context claiming it to be true.

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2 hours ago, SwindonCanary said:

vaccine's ! 

Even Johnson has stopped talking about the vaccine in the same sentence as Europe as he knows his original statements were a Johnson.

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Conservatives have yet again increased their lead over Labour Boris is still more popular than Starmer 

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22 minutes ago, SwindonCanary said:

Conservatives have yet again increased their lead over Labour Boris is still more popular than Starmer 

What’s that got to with Brexit? Stupid Swindo.

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39 minutes ago, SwindonCanary said:

Conservatives have yet again increased their lead over Labour Boris is still more popular than Starmer 

I think you have just told another Johnson, as the weekend polls since Johnson has been called out for telling Johnson’s have closed.

Also Conservative lead is a different poll to Polls between Johnson and Starmer. As I have said many times I will vote Conservative however I will not vote conservative again whilst Johnson is in charge.

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3 hours ago, (Hoola)Han Solo said:

What’s that got to with Brexit?  Swindon.

I  know you lot are labour supporters by the way you keep having a go at Boris