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7 hours ago, Barbe bleu said:

Fair enough but this sensible middle ground will have cost an extra £18 billion+ after five years without necessarily greatly improving healthcare.

It will mean cuts elsewhere or some drastic tax rises. 

Its a personal choice and there is every reason to think that tax rises are over due, especially in certain areas but let's not pretend its small numbers.

 

Well the triple lock can go. Tax from big tech will need to be properly enforced. Reverse brexit. Offshore tax avoidance will need to be stopped. Re-evaluation of the council tax codes. Excessive pay for heads of companies needs to be looked at with progressive tax hikes.

And if people don't want to pay a decent livable wage then how about looking at things like proper rent control or affordable public transport. More progressive ways of making people's lives a bit easier rather than simply stagnating workers wages like the last ten years of austerity have done.

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On 04/03/2021 at 14:00, PurpleCanary said:

If the UK keeps on breaking the agreement over the border in the Irish Sea it could yet end up with the No-Deal Brexit it just about managed to avoid first time around.

There was what looked to me like a naive leader in The Guardian, blaming Frost for this and painting him as a loose cannon whom Johnson needed to muzzle. Whereas I suspect Johnson has been planning all along to break the agreement to get rid of the border in the Irish Sea, and Frost knows or assumes that and is acting accordingly. Given all we know about Johnson it would actually be a surprise - and quite possibly a first in his life - if he intended to keep his word.

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45 minutes ago, PurpleCanary said:

There was what looked to me like a naive leader in The Guardian, blaming Frost for this and painting him as a loose cannon whom Johnson needed to muzzle. Whereas I suspect Johnson has been planning all along to break the agreement to get rid of the border in the Irish Sea, and Frost knows or assumes that and is acting accordingly. Given all we know about Johnson it would actually be a surprise - and quite possibly a first in his life - if he intended to keep his word.

Exactly. Johnson is just waiting for memories to fade slightly and the Irish Sea will be totally forgotten. He has adopted the Trump stance of promising all and delivering nothing interspersed with plenty of lying.

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Maurice Crouch Growers are having to trash 50m daffodils because of brexit. Who would have thought they couldn't get the staff in to pick them now they can't employ EU workers.(BBC news report)

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3 minutes ago, Herman said:

When Brexit mouthpieces turn on Brexit you know it isn't going well.

Fishing farce: Boris's deal leaves UK fishermen with LESS quota than before Brexit.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1404552/brexit-fishing-news-latest-uk-fishermen-eu-quota-boris-johnson-trade-deal

Oh dear Herman, you seem to have forgotten that Morrison's now own a trawler. Obviously that transforms the UK fishing industry back to its mighty best. Rule Britannia!

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50 minutes ago, horsefly said:

Oh dear Herman, you seem to have forgotten that Morrison's now own a trawler. Obviously that transforms the UK fishing industry back to its mighty best. Rule Britannia!

It's just awaiting a paint job :

 

 

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https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/uk-statistics-authority-rebukes-gove-over-brexit-figures/ar-BB1ejFU9?ocid=msedgntp

UK Statistics Authority rebukes Gove over Brexit figures

"The Cabinet Office run by Michael Gove has been officially reprimanded by the UK Statistics Authority for using unpublished and unverifiable data in an attempt to deny that Brexit had caused a massive fall in volumes of trade through British ports."

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5 hours ago, MooreMarriot said:

It's just awaiting a paint job :

 

 

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Is that HMS Brexit!

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1 minute ago, Herman said:

Don't cry those tears...

 

Haha! I wonder if Jools can get his money back?

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2 minutes ago, Herman said:

Don't cry those tears...

 

Yes his EU pension kicks in now so those 17 years of tossing it off and doing nothing positive for 🇬🇧 is done!

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Just now, horsefly said:

Haha! I wonder if Jools can get his money back?

He'll just put any losses on one of his client's bills.😀

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2 minutes ago, Indy said:

Yes his EU pension kicks in now so those 17 years of tossing it off and doing nothing positive for 🇬🇧 is done!

He's simply a parasite. Sucked the life out of this country, got paid handsomely for doing nothing and now he is off to rinse some other mugs. Dreadful human being.

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5 minutes ago, Indy said:

Is that HMS Brexit!

Indeed! sister ship to the Titanic

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1 minute ago, Herman said:

Dreadful human being.

"human being"???????? a bit ambitious there Herman

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God bless, Sir Nigel of Farage -- He achieved what he set out to do -- Can't think of many politicians who can boast that...

We Brexiteers owe him a huge debt and I wish him good luck and Godspeed on his next venture, which includes the fight against the educational indoctrination of our kids in schools & universities -- As always a very worthy cause.

 

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3 hours ago, Herman said:

He's simply a parasite. Sucked the life out of this country, got paid handsomely for doing nothing and now he is off to rinse some other mugs. Dreadful human being.

Nay, he's never come close to selling out his principles for the trappings of wealth and pecuniary rewards as others in the political field do.

A certain Lefty billionaire hero of yours still owes every British person a couple of hundred quid for shortening our currency mind..

And we all want interest 😉

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5 hours ago, Jools said:

Nay, he's never come close to selling out his principles for the trappings of wealth and pecuniary rewards as others in the political field do.

A certain Lefty billionaire hero of yours still owes every British person a couple of hundred quid for shortening our currency mind..

And we all want interest 😉

Haha! old gullible gammon head can't admit Nige has fleeced him out of another membership fee for the Deform Party and has now pi*ssed off with the cash. You even have to stump up a great wadge of cash to stand as one of its "politicians" in the sure and certain prospect that you will fail miserably. I wonder what party name he will invent next when he needs another input of "tax" from his patheticaly gullible groupies. No doubt grovelling Jools will be first in the line to tip the contents of his wallet into Farage's back pocket.

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"Nay, he's never come close to selling out his principles for the trappings of wealth and pecuniary rewards as others in the political field do."

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Nothing else to add to that comedy gold.

 

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1 minute ago, Herman said:

"Nay, he's never come close to selling out his principles for the trappings of wealth and pecuniary rewards as others in the political field do."

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Nothing else to add to that comedy gold.

 

Now now Herman, have you not seen the plethora of adverts for his latest noble project in saving the world from those nasty avaricious scum working in the financial services industry? Admittedly, he doesn't point out that what he says is on behalf of a nasty avaricious scumbag financial service company, and admittedly he doesn't tell us what his personally cut is from his participation in this scam, but surely that doesn't count as hypocracy does it? You will be telling me next that he happily took all his pay, expenses and pension while doing sod-all for the country as an MEP. Or that he only attended 1 out of 42 meetings of the EU fishing Committee that he was elected to. What a fine example he isn't.

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6 minutes ago, horsefly said:

Now now Herman, have you not seen the plethora of adverts for his latest noble project in saving the world from those nasty avaricious scum working in the financial services industry? Admittedly, he doesn't point out that what he says is on behalf of a nasty avaricious scumbag financial service company, and admittedly he doesn't tell us what his personally cut is from his participation in this scam, but surely that doesn't count as hypocracy does it? You will be telling me next that he happily took all his pay, expenses and pension while doing sod-all for the country as an MEP. Or that he only attended 1 out of 42 meetings of the EU fishing Committee that he was elected to. What a fine example he isn't.

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I do hope that Jools is on a colossal wind up because if he can't see what Farage actually is then he needs the help of professionals (and their large, well stocked medicine cabinet.)

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Lord David Frost, who negotiated the Brexit trade deal, has said Brussels must "shake off" any lasting "ill will" towards the UK for its decision to leave the European Union. Writing in the Sunday Telegraph, Lord Frost said it was important to "instead build a friendly relationship". His comments come after Prime Minster Boris Johnson unilaterally extended the grace period on Irish Sea border checks. 

 

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There are two statements in that paragraph. The second causes the first.

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1 minute ago, SwindonCanary said:

Lord David Frost, who negotiated the Brexit trade deal, has said Brussels must "shake off" any lasting "ill will" towards the UK for its decision to leave the European Union. Writing in the Sunday Telegraph, Lord Frost said it was important to "instead build a friendly relationship". His comments come after Prime Minster Boris Johnson unilaterally extended the grace period on Irish Sea border checks. 

 

Lord David Frost, who was plain David Frost when he negotiated the terrible Brexit deal should be ashamed that he such a bad job Boris Johnson made him a Lord (Johnson also made an IRA sympathiser a member of the House of Lords).

The EU is operating on the terms of the deal that Frost negotiated, now he has to do a lot of work blaming the people he negotiated with for the problems he created..

 

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19 hours ago, Herman said:

When Brexit mouthpieces turn on Brexit you know it isn't going well.

Fishing farce: Boris's deal leaves UK fishermen with LESS quota than before Brexit.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1404552/brexit-fishing-news-latest-uk-fishermen-eu-quota-boris-johnson-trade-deal

"Chickens coming home to roost" is one of many sayings that pop into my head at this point.

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