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3 minutes ago, paul moy said:

Another boost for independent Brexit Britain and future electric car battery production.  Key battery component  lithium deposits found in Cornwall 🤗

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1396748/brexit-news-boris-johnson-business-global-britain-british-lithium-cornwall-mining

Nothing to do with Brexit. Its just a natural resource that they've been looking at developing for a few years. Its very local to KG !

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Yup, just another deflection from reality by the right wing newspapers. Just like Patels reported anger at BLM, threat to fine universities and high speed rail’s nonesense of a tunnel to Northern Island, desperate attempts to  shift ficus from the real impact of Brexit 

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48 minutes ago, paul moy said:

Another boost for independent Brexit Britain and future electric car battery production.  Key battery component  lithium deposits found in Cornwall 🤗

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1396748/brexit-news-boris-johnson-business-global-britain-british-lithium-cornwall-mining

So it is thought at best, we can produce a third of our needs in an effort to keep foreign car manufacturers in the U.K. When you consider how much Australia and Chile produce, we will never be world beating, and having read the article in The Times, which included 'Last month The Times reported that the Brexit deal agreed with the EU meant that the UK would be forced to build its own battery “gigafactories” in order to avoid damaging tariffs', it would appear to be more damage limitation.

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2 hours ago, Yellow Fever said:

Nothing to do with Brexit. Its just a natural resource that they've been looking at developing for a few years. Its very local to KG !

This isn't news to us YF. It has been going on for two or three years. And it has caused a lot of fuss during that time.

One of the problem areas is the £1M grant awarded by the Government. Yes it may well provide some local jobs but the land is owned by a Canadian Mineral Rights Company and the drilling company is owned by a Norwegian multi billionaire.

If the lithium is that important, why has the Government handed everything over to non British? Its a private company that will answer to its investors first and foremost.

The forecast is for 21000 tonnes which compared to Chiles 8M tonnes is quite laughable. 

And the impact on the environment is drastic. The lithium is mined by pumping water in and out of the ground and letting it evaporate in huge pools or lakes to leave the lithium behind. It takes 500,000 gallons of water to extract 1 tonne of lithium. 105,000 million gallons of water!

So you can tell Moy that as far as it is concerned, it will make very little difference to the supply of lithium as Chile has guaranteed it will make enough available even if the country dies of thirst.

Any profit from the mining will go to Canada and Norway.

And I will be living on Lake Lithium in Redruth.

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But you forget all those Brexiteers 'oop north' who will now be able to use their untaxed wealth in off shore funds to invest in this project

Along with Cornish fishermen, who will soon reap the financial benefits of brexit to invest in this latter day gold rush.

So the message is to, brexiteers, use your new found Brexit wealth to grab what you can, before naughty foreign types make off with huge parts of the UK, on the cheap

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53 minutes ago, Rock The Boat said:

That's good to see

But how much of the imported products can the local producers cover?

It's possible to grow or produce many products in many places, for example Iceland used to grow its own bananas commercially, but haven't done so for decades as they are easier and cheaper to import, especially once the import tariffs were cut 

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5 hours ago, paul moy said:

Processed meats have always been a cancer issue.   Just cut down on them and stop panicking........  😂

Im not panicking you ****  I just feel like I dont want to be forced to eat unlabelled carcinogenic **** because you were too thick to see through nigel ****ing farage. Thats not panic, just frustration

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3 minutes ago, kick it off said:

Im not panicking you ****  I just feel like I dont want to be forced to eat unlabelled carcinogenic **** because you were too thick to see through nigel ****ing farage. Thats not panic, just frustration

The concern there is the demand from the US that country of origin labelling removed - consumers won't know where their food is from. That being one if the aims of brexit.

It won’t be a case of consumers avoiding the chickens in the chiller glowing, with a suitable for brexiteers only label, but consumers dealing with processed foods where there is no traceability. Schools, hospitals and care homes etc where the pressure is on sourcing the cheapest. who will not be aware of what they are serving up. Likewise EU countries will not know either, so will ensure checks are at the tightest...increasing costs for UK producers.

So far, despite the nonsense from Liz Truss, the UK has not signed any really important deals. Those with the larger markets, who will be able to dictate terms to the UK. We have not seen how they will certainly want to loosen the UK's previous strict food safety regulations now the UK is out of the EU

 

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3 hours ago, keelansgrandad said:

This isn't news to us YF. It has been going on for two or three years. And it has caused a lot of fuss during that time.

One of the problem areas is the £1M grant awarded by the Government. Yes it may well provide some local jobs but the land is owned by a Canadian Mineral Rights Company and the drilling company is owned by a Norwegian multi billionaire.

If the lithium is that important, why has the Government handed everything over to non British? Its a private company that will answer to its investors first and foremost.

The forecast is for 21000 tonnes which compared to Chiles 8M tonnes is quite laughable. 

And the impact on the environment is drastic. The lithium is mined by pumping water in and out of the ground and letting it evaporate in huge pools or lakes to leave the lithium behind. It takes 500,000 gallons of water to extract 1 tonne of lithium. 105,000 million gallons of water!

So you can tell Moy that as far as it is concerned, it will make very little difference to the supply of lithium as Chile has guaranteed it will make enough available even if the country dies of thirst.

Any profit from the mining will go to Canada and Norway.

And I will be living on Lake Lithium in Redruth.

Yes KG - I actually know your area a little better than most would guess (CSM) and had followed this for a few years. It has as we all know absolutely nothing to do with Brexit.

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19 hours ago, Yellow Fever said:

Yes KG - I actually know your area a little better than most would guess (CSM) and had followed this for a few years. It has as we all know absolutely nothing to do with Brexit.

When were you at CSM? Its changed a lot over the years.

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28 minutes ago, keelansgrandad said:

When were you at CSM? Its changed a lot over the years.

Another life - No is the short answer but the longer is rather different. I had a place, sponsorship (RTZ) but my parents thought better of it in apartheid SA 1970s! I went a different route. Oddly in recent years i've been a regular to Imperial SoM on other matters (but not holes in ground).

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42 minutes ago, Herman said:

 

That's exactly what is happening. Businesses always do what they need to do. Someone posted a very similar map last autumn predicting what would transpire.

Those are quite long journeys but taking out road freight through England and the variation in time reduces ...plus no taxes, customs, paper work etc. As bosses of an exporting/importing business we'd all do it.

What might be interesting in the next 5 years is Scotland (and who knows, maybe a strengthening Welsh drive for independence).

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56 minutes ago, Herman said:

 

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/brexit-news-live-tories-dismiss-hallucinogenic-irish-sea-tunnel-plan-as-irish-french-trade-routes-boom/ar-BB1dGLlR?ocid=msedgntp

"new figures showed a boom in direct trade from the Republic of Ireland and France. Continental freight traffic between Irish and French ports was up 447 per cent in January, as businesses seek to avoid red tape disruption in the UK."

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https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/liz-truss-is-refusing-to-answer-questions-about-trading-crisis-sparked-by-brexit-parties-protest/ar-BB1dHAxr?ocid=msedgdhp

Liz Truss is refusing to answer questions about trading crisis sparked by Brexit, parties protest

 

Liz Truss is refusing to answer questions about the cross-Channel trading crisis sparked by Brexit, says a stinging attack by six opposition parties.

The International Trade Secretary has “transferred” all enquiries about the plight facing firms to other departments, they say – despite it being her job to promote exports overseas.

A hard-hitting letter accuses Ms Truss of trying “shirk responsibility for the failures of your colleagues elsewhere in government”.

And it protests: “Most extraordinary of all, you are refusing to answer questions about the serious crisis affecting UK shellfish and fish exporters, and about the future of inward investment in Northern Ireland.

“At a time when British exporters are crying out for the government to acknowledge and address the problems they are facing in the wake of Brexit, the Secretary of State for International Trade cannot simply put their head in the sand and pretend that these issues are not their concern.”

 

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On 14/02/2021 at 20:14, kick it off said:

Im not panicking you ****  I just feel like I dont want to be forced to eat unlabelled carcinogenic **** because you were too thick to see through nigel ****ing farage. Thats not panic, just frustration

Try to stay calm and rational as I educate you 😊

EU bacon is carcinogenic as EU rules insist on nitrites in processed meats. The ignorance of remourners is astounding 😂 :   

https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1397661/EU-news-food-standards-cancer-claim-book-Guillaume-Coudray-EU-documents

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What are you educating us in, racism ? How to lie ? How to anti vax ? How to hate the young members of our society or how to hate Europeans, or maybe even your specialist subject the economy.

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2 hours ago, Well b back said:

What are you educating us in, racism ? How to lie ? How to anti vax ? How to hate the young members of our society or how to hate Europeans, or maybe even your specialist subject the economy.

In your woke little mind their are no grey areas.......  life is not all black and white   ... and it is not all love or hate   .... it is not all jabs or none   😎

I just had th Astra jab so your logic is rather flawed  🤣  keep on trolling !!  🤗😎

 

 

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Funny how the right wing press invents a new word to mean non-racist and how fast it takes off. Well done racist people. 🤨

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5 hours ago, paul moy said:

Try to stay calm and rational as I educate you 😊

EU bacon is carcinogenic as EU rules insist on nitrites in processed meats. The ignorance of remourners is astounding 😂 :   

https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1397661/EU-news-food-standards-cancer-claim-book-Guillaume-Coudray-EU-documents

Oh dear! it seems your claim that the EU "insists on nitrites in processed meats" doesn't quite pan out, according to the very author you cite. The author says the EU forces nitrites to be added to bacon and then goes on to say the following:

 “The European Food Safety Authority never stops going on about the dangers of botulism posed by nitrite-free alternatives. They say nitrites are ‘essential’. But their head office is in Parma, Italy, the Mecca of nitrite-free meat curing. The Parma Ham Consortium decided in 1993 to ban nitrites.

“The 150 Parma ham producers make 9 million hams every year and in 27 years there has not been a single case of botulism detected.

“Nitrite-free alternatives are now widely available. Britain’s biggest bacon brand is completely nitrite-free. Britain and Parma have shown it can be done.

So the EU didn't insist that Parma ham producers use nitrites, nor Britain's biggest bacon brand.

 

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21 minutes ago, horsefly said:

Oh dear! it seems your claim that the EU "insists on nitrites in processed meats" doesn't quite pan out, according to the very author you cite. The author says the EU forces nitrites to be added to bacon and then goes on to say the following:

 “The European Food Safety Authority never stops going on about the dangers of botulism posed by nitrite-free alternatives. They say nitrites are ‘essential’. But their head office is in Parma, Italy, the Mecca of nitrite-free meat curing. The Parma Ham Consortium decided in 1993 to ban nitrites.

“The 150 Parma ham producers make 9 million hams every year and in 27 years there has not been a single case of botulism detected.

“Nitrite-free alternatives are now widely available. Britain’s biggest bacon brand is completely nitrite-free. Britain and Parma have shown it can be done.

So the EU didn't insist that Parma ham producers use nitrites, nor Britains biggest bacon brand.

 

Sorry but you are just falling for EU spin. Next you'll be claiming the UK could have had blue passports all along, could have limited freedom of movement, and could have blocked Turkey's admission to the bloc.

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48 minutes ago, paul moy said:

In your woke little mind their are no grey areas.......  life is not all black and white   ... and it is not all love or hate   .... it is not all jabs or none   😎

I just had th Astra jab so your logic is rather flawed  🤣  keep on trolling !!  🤗😎

 

 

Wtf are you running on about now

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