The Positive Brexit Thread

[SwindonCanary 455]

like the full hotels, full of asylum seekers claiming it ?

Edited October 20, 2021 by SwindonCanary

[Herman 9,698]

4 minutes ago, SwindonCanary said:

like the full hotels full of asylum seekers claiming it ?

Do you have any evidence of this or did you simply read it on fakebook? 

[sonyc 5,482]

15 minutes ago, SwindonCanary said:

like the full hotels full of asylum seekers claiming it ?

The government pays local authorities to house them. Very often in hotels Swindon. Refugees (with legal status) awaiting resettlement. People often confuse asylum seekers and refugees. There is a crossover (asylum seekers await a decision on their status). 

Edit: I suppose if you have such a colonial past then sometimes you often hold responsibilities in the future Swindon. The world you've conquered often comes back to you. It's the way it's always been.  Likewise if you are a responsible country you take a share. Some countries have taken in more refugees comparatively. 163k people are seeking asylum in Sweden and we have 31k. Germany has accepted 128k. France and Spain are not far behind. 

Easy to look up. Look at the facts.

Edited October 20, 2021 by sonyc

[horsefly 4,273]

5 minutes ago, SwindonCanary said:

like the full hotels full of asylum seekers claiming it ?

That makes no sense, try again. Hotels don't claim asylum whether they are full or empty.

[SwindonCanary 455]

31 minutes ago, horsefly said:

That makes no sense, try again. Hotels don't claim asylum whether they are full or empty.

try to keep up, just think about it 

Edited October 20, 2021 by SwindonCanary

[BigFish 1,986]

4.3 Landing cards

On 5 August 2017, the Home Office launched the ‘Consultation on Home Office’s Immigration Statistics - arrivals data’, on ending the requirement for non-EEA passengers to present a paper landing card on arrival into the UK from 1 October 2017. The consultation set out the statistical implications of the change and closed on 2 September 2017. The government confirmed in the Spring Statement 2019 that to coincide with the ePassport gates expansion, the government would begin to abolish landing cards for non-EEA travellers. On 20 May 2019, it removed the need for all non-EEA travellers to fill in landing cards upon arrival in the UK and expanded the use of ePassport gates to seven more countries. The government’s response to the consultation was published in May 2019. As anticipated in the original consultation, ahead of new electronic data sources being developed, the withdrawal of landing cards has resulted in a temporary loss to the passenger arrivals data broken down by nationality and reason for travel. The last set of published data on non-EEA nationals arriving in the UK (based on Landing Cards), cover the period 2004 to 2018) are available in ‘Immigration statistics, year ending June 2019 second edition’. Data on the total number of passenger arrivals will continue to be available as this comes from a different source.

So, @SwindonCanary the government has taken back control of our borders by..........removing the controls, incredible! Furthermore they don't actually know how many people are coming to the Uk or where they are from.

Well done Brexiteers another winner. Now Swindo **** off you ****

[SwindonCanary 455]

3 minutes ago, BigFish said:

20 May 2019

up to date ?

[horsefly 4,273]

34 minutes ago, SwindonCanary said:

try to keep up, just think about it 

When you write in coherent sentences that conform to the rules of English grammar then perhaps you can make such a request.

[SwindonCanary 455]

Like the hotels, full of asylum seekers claiming it ?

[Herman 9,698]

You're a grown adult, with children, Swindo.

[TheGunnShow 5,909]

Regarding Poland and EU law, this might help. Especially the Background section. Back-door authoritarianism by the current Polish regime in an equally insidious way to Orban and his cronies.

Independence of Polish judges (europa.eu)

[Well b back 3,180]

4 hours ago, SwindonCanary said:

CONROLLED  immigration when we need it !

We certainly were CONNED by Nige and his lying turkeys.

[SwindonCanary 455]

1 hour ago, Well b back said:

We certainly were CONNED by Nige and his lying turkeys.

 

2 hours ago, Herman said:

You're a grown adult, with children, Swindo.

Are all of you unable to complete a word  ?

[Herman 9,698]

This man writes for the Mail. No wonder people are so ill informed.

 

[SwindonCanary 455]

UK agrees free trade deal with New Zealand - BBC News

[Herman 9,698]

"The New Zealand deal itself is unlikely to boost UK growth, according to the government's own estimates."

Not a bad exchange for £400billion worth of genuine free trade.

 

Edited October 21, 2021 by Herman

[MooreMarriot 305]

7 hours ago, SwindonCanary said:

UK agrees free trade deal with New Zealand - BBC News

British farmers warn of 'huge downsides' to PM's New Zealand trade deal.

https://www.itv.com/news/2021-10-20/british-farmers-warn-of-huge-downsides-to-pms-new-zealand-trade-deal

 

[horsefly 4,273]

So yet another "free trade" deal that actually screws over an important sector of farming in this country. Sheep farmers already live on the edge of economic survival, and this will be the final nail in the coffin for most of them. How sadly ironic that the country hosting Cop26 announces a trade deal that will replace home produced lamb with that from 11,427 miles away. The phrase "You couldn't make it up!" is used with depressing frequency about virtually everything this government does.

[SwindonCanary 455]

maybe you are not old enough to remember the days when we got New Zealand lamb very cheap 

[sonyc 5,482]

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/uk-new-zealand-strike-trade-25260728#

I would be inclined to believe the President of the National Farmers Union, Minette Batters on this matter and not Truss or Johnson.

"World beating" is again Johnson 'Trumpspeak'

Edited October 21, 2021 by sonyc

[horsefly 4,273]

55 minutes ago, SwindonCanary said:

maybe you are not old enough to remember the days when we got New Zealand lamb very cheap 

I don't want "cheap" lamb that has an enormous carbon footprint having travelled nearely 12,000 miles. I don't want "cheap" lamb that has travelled nearly 12,000 miles putting farmers in this country out of business. Even this government has admitted that the NZ deal will have no positive effect on the UK's GDP. There is a reason why Australian and NZ farmers are overjoyed at this government's pi*ss-poor trade deals and our farmers (beef, lamb, sugarbeet) are appalled. I thought you claimed brexit was a patriotic idea, please explain how it is patriotic to benefit the farmers of foreign countries at the cost to the livelihoods of UK farmers.

[SwindonCanary 455]

You can't see what the Government  Is trying to do, bring wages up and make things we buy cheaper 

[horsefly 4,273]

1 minute ago, SwindonCanary said:

You can't see what the Government  Is trying to do, bring wages up and make things we buy cheaper 

You really are quite immune to reason and anything that questions the propoganda of your favourite RWNJs. I asked you to explain how it is patriotic to benefit the farmers of foreign countries and destroy the livelihoods of our own farmers. 

[SwindonCanary 455]

it's you that is quite immune to everything this Government is trying to do, sure they have made some mistakes but they try very hard to make this country  a success

[horsefly 4,273]

6 minutes ago, SwindonCanary said:

it's you that is quite immune to everything this Government is trying to do, sure they have made some mistakes but they try very hard to make this country  a success

As ever, you are so naive you can't see how pathetic that answer is. You can't cite a single thing that has been a success resulting from brexit. If you honestly think that negotiating trade deals with Japan, Australia, and New Zealand that even the government's own figures prove significantly benefit those countries over the UK, then you are truly more befuddled than a gnat in a centrifuge

[SwindonCanary 455]

you can't see anything good that's happened since Brexit 

[A Load of Squit 5,111]

44 minutes ago, SwindonCanary said:

You can't see what the Government  Is trying to do, bring wages up and make things we buy cheaper 

Is it possible to pay people more and then sell goods cheaper? Who absorbs the increase in the companies costs?

 

[horsefly 4,273]

8 minutes ago, SwindonCanary said:

you can't see anything good that's happened since Brexit 

Because there ISN'T anything good that has happened since brexit you buffoon. Why do you think you are unable to tell us anything good that has happened as a result of brexit but the rest of us are able to cite brexit disasters on a daily basis? 

[horsefly 4,273]

From the DAILY EXPRESS

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/cars/news/broken-industry-lorry-drivers-are-laughing-at-being-welcomed-to-uk-for-christmas/ar-AAPKOoa?ocid=msedgntp

‘Broken industry' Lorry drivers are 'laughing' at being welcomed to UK for Christmas

[Creative Midfielder 1,985]

2 hours ago, SwindonCanary said:

You can't see what the Government  Is trying to do, bring wages up and make things we buy cheaper 

You are clearly getting more desperate and even more stupid - didn't think that was possible but there you go, proving me wrong again

The Government is not 'trying' to do either of those things - the Government's incompetence and negligence has created shortages all over our economy and only after the shortages became crises did Johnson dream up his narrative for the simple minded that this was actually part of a government policy to increase wages but somehow, he forgot to mention it until he noticed that nobody could buy any petrol.

In actual fact the wage rises are pretty patchy but in the long term are a good thing but they will lead directly to us all paying more and not less for the things we buy - I would have thought even you would be capable of grasping that.

I think it is also worth pointing out that Johnson's oven ready deal deliberately introduced additional overheads and delays to businesses which will also lead inevitably to price rises as it is impossible for businesses to simply absorb these additional costs without passing at least some ontot customers. Johnson knew this when he signed the deal but as usual he lied about it.

The only way that wages can go up and prices down is to have a huge boost in productively and yet the UK's record on productively relative to our European competitors is very poor indeed and has been for many years - Johnson's government, and their Tory predecessors have known about this issue for the last ten years and done absolutely nothing about it, so you are, as usual, talking total cr@p.