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Farage said about misunderstanding about the RNLI saying 'he wasn't attacking anybody who works on those boats, all he was asking was why aren't the border force doing it'

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23 minutes ago, sonyc said:

It is clear beyond all doubt that Brexit has been the death knell for this factory and has accelerated a decision to close the plant.

so why did they shut down the factory's in the EU ?

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20 minutes ago, SwindonCanary said:

so why did they shut down the factory's in the EU ?

Surely that isn't the point. Maybe the Swindon plant would have stayed open if we were in the EU?

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42 minutes ago, SwindonCanary said:

Farage said about misunderstanding about the RNLI saying 'he wasn't attacking anybody who works on those boats, all he was asking was why aren't the border force doing it'

He said "the RNLI are being used as a taxi service for illegal trafficking gangs", he then said ""And that it’s a problem because the people who give money to the RNLI are asking themselves ‘do I really want to give money for this?’” (we found out the answer to that one was a resounding "YES!"). 

The RNLI has said it’s part of it’s legal duty under international maritime law to continue to respond to coastguard call outs regardless of people’s reasons for being in the water.

 

The only misunderstanding is that you've misunderstood his weasel words as a valid statement.

 

 

 

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49 minutes ago, SwindonCanary said:

so why did they shut down the factory's in the EU ?

Belgium only makes parts and makes up a very small market. European 'green' taxes don't help either plus Honda are reviewing their whole strategy (electrification, the US market particularly). Uncertainty in the EU especially has played into this strategic decision. Here is a recent quote from Politico:

"Without guaranteed tariff-free access to the EU, carmakers with U.K. production facilities risk far higher costs and administration in exporting their output. Over half the vehicles built in the U.K. last year were exported to the EU27"

My point was that Brexit has accelerated a decision. With so much uncertainty, this manufacturer has decided to act. Japanese manufacturers rarely move their whole plants. 

Secondly, I responded to your post because I felt you had underplayed the human impact of the decision and closure, making out it was a kind of good news with redundancy payouts and a chance to buy a cheap car. I think that view grossly under-estimates the life-changing consequences and longer term fears. ...we think so differently about things happening in the world.

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50 minutes ago, SwindonCanary said:

Farage said about misunderstanding about the RNLI saying 'he wasn't attacking anybody who works on those boats, all he was asking was why aren't the border force doing it'

Rubbish! I posted his tweet above so there is no way he can get away with trying to alter what he said because it went down so badly with the public. He said the RNLI was "providing a taxi service for illegal trafficking gangs". Either condemn what he said or shame your ancestors' good name. The RNLI have been very clear in their condemnation, so why are you attempting to defend the indefensible? Do you despise the RNLI and your ancestors so much that you would rather keep your tongue firmly rammed up Farage's butt than criticise a word he says? How pathetic!

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3 minutes ago, Herman said:

Not entirely unexpected but worrying nonetheless.

 

Indeed it was completely expected. Even before brexit happened the government admitted that it would cost the country billions and take more than a decade to return us to anything comparable to where would have been had we remained in the EU. Now that the reality of brexit is proving to be even more damaging than predicted (The disasters happening to the financial and legal services unfolding at the moment were not "expected") we're clearly in for a hellish time ahead. Well done brexitards for bequeathing your children and grandchildren a seriously impoverished future.

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24 minutes ago, A Load of Squit said:

The RNLI has said it’s part of it’s legal duty under international maritime law to continue to respond to coastguard call outs regardless of people’s reasons for being in the water.

This! One hundred times over.

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1 hour ago, A Load of Squit said:

 

The RNLI has said it’s part of it’s legal duty under international maritime law to continue to respond to coastguard call outs regardless of people’s reasons for being in the water.

 

55 minutes ago, Daz Sparks said:

This! One hundred times over.

Indeed! This fundamental pinciple of the RNLI is known to everyone, which is why Farage's words are so disgusting. He knew exactly what he was saying, but the greasy slab of gammon completely misread how the public would respond. Lies and anti-immigrant hate speech may well have got him brexit votes, but combining that with an attack on the RNLI didn't quite go down as well as he thought it would. His attempt at more nasty populism didn't turn out to be very popular. 

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2 hours ago, keelansgrandad said:

Surely that isn't the point. Maybe the Swindon plant would have stayed open if we were in the EU?

NO THEY DID IT TO ALL EU COUNTRY'S 

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17 minutes ago, SwindonCanary said:

An absurd take from The Ars*ehole. Germany and the Netherlands are also in discussions, so that's hardly a triumph for "Brexit Britain". I wonder how many millions they will want as a bribe this time? Nissan screwed the UK taxpayer for over £120m, so no doubt they will want a lot more than that. 

I particularly love the fact that they included the following:

"It follows news last week that automotive giant Nissan was creating a 400 more jobs in the UK"

forgetting to mention that Honda closed its factory in Swindon this week with a loss of 3000 jobs. Can you do the maths Swindle? (I doubt it).

It's also interesting to note they use the phrase "Brexit Britain" and not "Brexit UK". Seems The Ars*ehole have already decided Northern Ireland is a victim of the big brexit bollox.

 

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40 minutes ago, SwindonCanary said:

NO THEY DID IT TO ALL EU COUNTRY'S 

Why do you hate punctuation so much?

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1 minute ago, horsefly said:

Why do you hate punctuation so much?

😀

My punctuation can struggle sometimes but that...... 

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1 minute ago, Herman said:

😀

My punctuation can struggle sometimes but that...... 

Indeed! We all have our moments, but Swindle seems to make it a badge of honour to assault every rule of grammar on a daily basis.

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5 minutes ago, A Load of Squit said:

A huge boost for Brexit Britain. Company to build the worlds biggest data warehouse in the UK. 😀

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/boris-johnson-tories-government-conservatives-lies-new-website-peter-oborne-163933546.html

A website wants to track and trace Boris Johnson's 'numerous lies'

 

All the more exquisite given Oborne is very much an old-fashioned right-winger, just like Max Hastings, another of his breed. They both worked with Johnson and both recognise a lying spiv "completely unsuitable to govern" when they see one.

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Regarding Rivan … from Sky News :An electric vehicle (EV) manufacturer backed by Amazon and Ford is in talks with ministers about building a giant factory in the UK that could include a big state support package.

Funny how those last 4 words were left out of the link Swindon provided …. more bribes to cover up the Brexit economic catastrophe.

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On 29/07/2021 at 22:40, PurpleCanary said:

When I lived in the UK I frequently gave money to the RNLI. It being a worthy organisation. I would like to thank the immoral imbeciles who are attacking it for providing a reminder that I must revive that practice.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/jul/31/what-if-i-help-you-and-then-a-whole-bunch-of-other-drowning-people-come-along

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"Brexit is beginning to take its toll. Trade with the EU is suffering and foreign investment is heading south. Neither trend is temporary and both harm the government’s stated aim of “levelling up” regions that until now have depended on overseas trade to create well-paid jobs."

"There are just too many independent reports examining the UK’s trade figures that are reaching the same conclusion: Brexit is bad for exporters. And not just today and tomorrow, but for a very long time."

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2021/jul/31/its-not-covid-thats-damaging-british-trade-its-brexit

An observation that is all to clear, as the burden of increased regulation, red tape and cost from Brexit eat away at the commercial viability of UK commerce. Inward investment is all too often foreign investors buying up UK assets/ tech development on the cheap as a weak pound makes them vulnerable.

 

 

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5 hours ago, Herman said:

Not entirely unexpected but worrying nonetheless.

 

Wales is heading towards a new era of austerity after losing £375m a year in EU economic aid because of Brexit, the nation’s economy minister has said. Vaughan Gething told the Financial Times that while much funding from Brussels would end this financial year following the UK’s departure from the EU, the government in London had yet to allocate replacement support as promised. “The Welsh government has to look at the reduced sum of money and make our budgets balance,” Gething said. “The chancellor said there won’t be a return to austerity. Actually, if money disappears . . . you could find yourselves having to make choices that look very similar to the choices I was having to make as a minister when austerity was at its height.”

 

All three UK devolved administrations face significant cuts to their incomes after Brexit last year ended the flow of EU money. Prime Minister Boris Johnson has promised to match the shortfall in EU funding for Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland after Brexit. EU structural funds ended in December 2020 but some programmes are continuing with unspent money. The government plans to replace the EU money with a Shared Prosperity Fund worth £1.5bn annually but has yet to outline how it will work.


A pilot scheme and precursor for the SPF, the Community Renewal Fund, worth £220m and which covers all UK regions, is in place for the current financial year, but Wales expects to receive just £10m. “There is a huge drop in one year,” said Gething. Previously, European money paid for more than 5,000 apprenticeships a year and almost half of the £181m Wales Business Fund, led by the Development Bank for Wales, which supports small businesses. In Northern Ireland, finance minister Conor Murphy in March said he had spent £42.5m of the region’s budget to fund economic development programmes formerly paid for by the EU.

 

While Belfast can claim the money back from Brussels in arrears, the UK’s replacement fund still “falls far short of” its EU predecessor, he told parliament. Northern Ireland continues to receive some EU money through the €1bn Peace Plus project to “promote peace and prosperity in Ireland”. Multiyear projects approved before 2021 can claim back money from Brussels for another three years. The Welsh, Scottish and Northern Ireland governments previously had a central role in allocating EU funds, but under legislation passed by Westminster last year the UK government can now bypass regional government’s despite spending in policy areas being devolved since 1999. The three nations issued a joint rebuke in March, warning that bypassing devolved administrations “harms the effectiveness of these funds, will duplicate resources, and risks value for money and the achievement of better, fairer outcomes which our communities and people deserve”.

 

Before Brexit, Wales was the biggest recipient of EU funds, receiving twice as much as Scotland and four times as much as Northern Ireland. The three will jointly receive £800m over four years from the £4.8bn Levelling Up Fund. Gething said: “We had an agreement on how we wanted to . . . use that [EU] money to support the economy, skills and innovation. What is the strategy and purpose behind the current UK government approach? It is hard to see one. “Local authorities are bidding against each other but regional working requires collaboration. Wales has less say over less money.”


Richard Lochhead, Scotland’s employment minister, said this month that Edinburgh “urgently” needed clarity from the UK government on how it planned to deliver the replacement funds. The UK government said: “Our Shared Prosperity Fund will help to level up and create opportunity . . . where it is needed most.” “We have been engaging with a wide range of key stakeholders in Wales and across all parts of the UK since 2016, and this has helped identify the opportunities for UKSPF policy, learning lessons from EU funding. “Each nation of the UK will receive as much if not more from our new funds, including the UKSPF, as they would have done had we remained within the European Union.” Financial Times

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13 minutes ago, SwindonCanary said:

We all know it's due to all the EU drivers not coming over here, which in the long run, will give more jobs to the British. 👍

We won't need them by then, everyone will have starved

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Why is he shouting? Is it because he is so dumb he can't detect when someone is taking the pi*ss?

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