The Positive Brexit Thread

[Rock The Boat 1,325]

On 15/06/2021 at 05:47, Surfer said:

Don’t be so pedantic. 

A treaty is a commercial or other agreement between two or more parties and its signature binds you to its terms or pay the consequences of breaking them. 

A contract is a commercial or other agreement between two or more parties and its signature binds you to its terms or pay the consequences of breaking them. 

De jure different, de facto absolutely the same. 

Sorry this is not pedantic when the OP talks about contract law when discussing a treaty. Contract law does not apply therefore everything he says is misinformed

[Rock The Boat 1,325]

6 hours ago, horsefly said:

The Australian government has been far more forthcoming with some of the details of the deal. I don't suppose for one minute this has anything to do with the prospect that Australia benefits much more from the deal than the UK. Anyway, it looks like it's a big brexit bye-bye to the beef farmers of the UK. Boris thanks you very much for the gigantic posters you erected in your fields telling us to "Vote Leave", he's just a little surprised you didn't realise that "Vote Leave" included you leaving your farms. 

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/money/other/why-the-uk-australia-trade-deal-could-have-startling-wider-implications/ar-AAL4uPS?ocid=msedgntp

According to numbers released by the Australian government (as I say, the UK has provided very little thus far), the quotas on Australian beef imports into the UK will go up from just under 5,000 tonnes at present to a whopping 35,000 tonnes immediately after the deal is signed, before increasing in the following years and then melting away entirely.

The increase for sheep meat is also large, if not sevenfold, up from just over 15,000 tonnes to 25,000 tonnes.

That's Irish farmers fkd. Should have listened to wiser voices. 

[horsefly 4,287]

2 minutes ago, Rock The Boat said:

That's Irish farmers fkd. Should have listened to wiser voices. 

No! it's UK farmers fu*cked. 

[sonyc 5,491]

5 hours ago, Herman said:

I was expecting more brexitty crowing about the Australian deal. Do you think it is starting to dawn on them? 

Johnson just stated in today's PM questions that people should not be criticizing Australia farming standards.... Ah... right. 

The reality (rather than this outrageous statement) is much different. I think the RSPCA know better.

 

[Herman 9,713]

... and anyone that says it doesn't do Australians any harm obviously hasn't met one. 😉

[Yellow Fever 3,747]

Have the Brexiteers finally reached Australia in the hole they keep digging for themselves ?

[horsefly 4,287]

I see their mice farmers have done well lately.

[keelansgrandad 6,679]

Truss says we will not be importing any hormone fed beef.

Lets wait and see what turns up shall we.

[Creative Midfielder 1,985]

27 minutes ago, keelansgrandad said:

Truss says we will not be importing any hormone fed beef.

........well she would say that, wouldn't she?   😂

[horsefly 4,287]

6 hours ago, Rock The Boat said:

Sorry this is not pedantic when the OP talks about contract law when discussing a treaty. Contract law does not apply therefore everything he says is misinformed

Oh dear, oh dear! Digging a deeper hole for yourself every time you post doesn't mean you can bury the fact that you are as thick as shi*te. A breach of treaty agreements is treated exactly the same as a breach of contract, which is exactly why the EU has threatened to take the UK to the European court of justice if it doesn't abide by its obligations. Trying pathetically to trade on a semantic difference between the words "treaty" and "contract" makes not the slightest difference to the substantive legal issues involved, as any first-year law student could tell you. What a shame you were too intellectually challenged to qualify for a place at university, you might have been forced to think before you opened your racist, misogynist, homophobic, paedophile apologising gob.

[Herman 9,713]

Alf Stewart says huzzar.

 

[horsefly 4,287]

11 minutes ago, Herman said:

Alf Stewart says huzzar.

 

Indeed! Watching Truss' pathetic efforts to defend the deal by claiming the Aussies will be sending vitually all their produce to their near neighbours rather than the UK, was truly embarrassing. How very odd, if that is true, that the Aussies should insist on a massive increase in the quota for tariff free beef exports (and other produce, and ultimately unlimited exports) for the deal to be done. Such blatant lying is insulting both, to farmers and the UK public generally.

[Indy 3,283]

So six months on, are we able to directly quote anything positive yet? Or are we still in this “take the pain period, before we start to see the benefits” time?

As for the Aussie deal, it opens up restaurants to be able to buy cheap Australian products substandard to what we are used to and put more pressure on our own farming community! I certainly won’t be buying any meat products labelled Australian.

[SwindonCanary 455]

25 minutes ago, Indy said:

So six months on, are we able to directly quote anything positive yet? Or are we still in this “take the pain period, before we start to see the benefits” time?

As for the Aussie deal, it opens up restaurants to be able to buy cheap Australian products substandard to what we are used to and put more pressure on our own farming community! I certainly won’t be buying any meat products labelled Australian.

Yes, there are some benefits to Brexit (businesslive.co.za)

5 positive things to come out of Brexit - Financial Director

Edited June 17, 2021 by SwindonCanary

[horsefly 4,287]

4 minutes ago, SwindonCanary said:

Yes, there are some benefits to Brexit (businesslive.co.za)

Interesting that the article is dated October 2020 before brexit happened. Anything after the deal was signed?

Also it's about time you told us how you have personally benefitted from brexit. You have been asked this question for many weeks and have yet to give us one example.

Edited June 17, 2021 by horsefly

[SwindonCanary 455]

https://www.financialdirector.co.uk/2017/03/17/5-positive-things-to-come-out-of-brexit/

[A Load of Squit 5,128]

2 minutes ago, SwindonCanary said:

https://www.financialdirector.co.uk/2017/03/17/5-positive-things-to-come-out-of-brexit/

That one is from 2017. 🤣

[kirku 1,332]

There is currently a "catastrophic" HGV driver shortage that is very close to impacting on all food supply chains. Tesco had "crisis talks" with ministers yesterday and there have been calls for the army to help deliver food. This has been worsened by a huge shortage of trained warehouse staff. This is hitting schools as we speak, and that's before the hospitality sector have fully reopened and during the quieter summer months.

This is a direct result of Brexit but has been compounded by CV19.

Remember the empty shelves last year? The supply chain was largely unaffected but the shortage was due to demand side panic buying. Now imagine what those shelves might look like if consumers are panic buying because of supply chain issues?

It's not good. At all.

[A Load of Squit 5,128]

10 minutes ago, kirku said:

There is currently a "catastrophic" HGV driver shortage that is very close to impacting on all food supply chains. Tesco had "crisis talks" with ministers yesterday and there have been calls for the army to help deliver food. This has been worsened by a huge shortage of trained warehouse staff. This is hitting schools as we speak, and that's before the hospitality sector have fully reopened and during the quieter summer months.

This is a direct result of Brexit but has been compounded by CV19.

Remember the empty shelves last year? The supply chain was largely unaffected but the shortage was due to demand side panic buying. Now imagine what those shelves might look like if consumers are panic buying because of supply chain issues?

It's not good. At all.

It'll all sorted by fair dinkum Aussie truck drivers delivering Tim Tams all over the UK.

No worries, mate.

[horsefly 4,287]

35 minutes ago, SwindonCanary said:

Yes, there are some benefits to Brexit (businesslive.co.za)

Just read it through which is clearly something you didn't do. Here are their claims:

1. The UK will have more power to shape its regulatory environment and cut taxes. (we have always had control over our tax rates)

2. The right tax regime would make the UK a lot more attractive as a base to export into the EU (As if the EU are stupid enough to allow that to happen)

3. In emerging industries, such as genetically modified foods and genome technology, Britain can take a more permissive approach than the EU (In other words, allow UK consumers to become experimental guinea pigs for "Frankenstein" food)

4. In aviation, Britain would have the ability to cut air passenger duty on the return leg of domestic flights (Undermine our already failing attempts to meet climate change targets)

5. Brexit could also boost the market for initial public offerings by removing the €8m EU ceiling on the amount companies can raise from individual investors without having to issue a prospectus, said Andrew Chapman, head of investment banking at Peel Hunt. “The UK government could look to raise that threshold so that we have a much more liquid and free-moving market,” he said. (Make the UK even more attractive to criminal foreign money launderers than it already is)

6. The UK will control its fishing waters post-Brexit and British fishing firms will be able to expand their catch. Though it accounts for only 0.12% of Britain’s economy and employs 24,000 people, the industry is symbolic after membership of Europe’s single market precipitated its demise. (Hahahahahaha! I think we are all aware of how that has worked out. Sadly, for actual fishermen this is not a laughing matter)

I could go on pointing out the utter bilge this article contains, but I think you get its drift by now.

[kirku 1,332]

13 minutes ago, A Load of Squit said:

It'll all sorted by fair dinkum Aussie truck drivers delivering Tim Tams all over the UK.

No worries, mate.

Not another shrimp on the barbie...

[A Load of Squit 5,128]

3 minutes ago, kirku said:

Not another shrimp on the barbie...

They'll be happy British shrimp.

[horsefly 4,287]

Suits our ambition for a shrimp economy.

[A Load of Squit 5,128]

On 14/06/2021 at 23:07, SwindonCanary said:

it will grow and grow !

The viewing figures have halved since the opening night.

[horsefly 4,287]

1 minute ago, A Load of Squit said:

The viewing figures have halved since the opening night.

There's a hundred still watching? Blimey! Got to admire their grit (clearly potential SAS candidates, no torturer will get them to spill the beans)

[keelansgrandad 6,679]

What a miracle.

No Government is prepared to tell us the outcome or benefit of any of these deals yet were certain that Brexit would be perfect and gave us the facts and figures why

[BigFish 1,986]

15 minutes ago, keelansgrandad said:

What a miracle.

No Government is prepared to tell us the outcome or benefit of any of these deals yet were certain that Brexit would be perfect and gave us the facts and figures why

Thats a bit unfair @keelansgrandad, according to the Gov's own figures the Aussie deal will make us all 1p per week better off in ten years time.

[Well b back 3,190]

Come on Nigel, you told us Brits would be forming massive queues for the jobs, but you never told us you bigger plan was to make us all vegans.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-57512243

[SwindonCanary 455]

Brexit: Have Remainers gone quiet too? | The New European

[Creative Midfielder 1,985]

10 minutes ago, SwindonCanary said:

Brexit: Have Remainers gone quiet too? | The New European

😂 Not in Leeds they haven't, https://www.leedsforeurope.org/how-to-fight-brexit - there's a protest in the centre of town a week today at 4pm if you'd like to pop along 😂

I realise that travelling this far north would probably give you a nose bleed but it might surprise you to get a brief taste of reality rather than the total cr@p you spend your time looking at online.