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7 hours ago, horsefly said:

What is it about contract law that you don't understand? Boris signed this deal and the deal contained the requirement for these checks. The reality is that the EU hasn't even applied all the checks the deal actually requires. The true regime of customs checks is far more onerous. When will you happy-clapping brexiteers get it through your thick skulls that this is what you voted for. It's YOU and your ignorant fellow brexiteers that are responsible for this, NOT the EU. You were told time and again that this would be the outcome of voting for brexit but you chose to ram your fingers in your ears and hum Rule Britannia to drown out the truth. Welcome to the shi*t storm that you created.

This has nothing at all to do with contract law. It's a treaty not a contract. You really shouldn't get involved in discussions outside your rather limited lane.

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8 hours ago, Rock The Boat said:

This has nothing at all to do with contract law. It's a treaty not a contract. You really shouldn't get involved in discussions outside your rather limited lane.

"Treaty, a binding formal agreement, contract, or other written instrument that establishes obligations between two or more subjects."

 

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14 hours ago, SwindonCanary said:

more closer to home, trade between the EU AND GIB 

Oh @SwindonCanary you are priceless, I seriously have to question whether this is a parody account trying to show just how stupid Brexiteers can be, it is certainly working.

Trade between Gibralter & the EU is smooth because de facto Gibraltar REMAINED within the EU. It is in the CU and the SM and, cherry on the cake, joined Schengen. After three centuries Johnson effectively gave Gibraltar away to get his deal over the line. You must be so proud of what you voted for.

Obviously this created a border between GB/UK with checks, paperwork etc

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Brexit successes a little upsetting ? The UK economy is growing faster than the EU and is forecast to continue to do so, and our vaccination program has put the EU to shame. This week we will see an increasingly confident Boris Johnson leading calls at the G7 summit in Cornwall to get the world vaccinated against Covid by the end of next year and Chancellor Rishi Sunak basking in international congratulations for brokering the Big Tech tax deal. Expectations are also rising for autumn's UN climate change conference in Glasgow. And British trade deals with other countries continue to be struck with impressive regularity.

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5 minutes ago, SwindonCanary said:

Brexit successes a little upsetting ? The UK economy is growing faster than the EU and is forecast to continue to do so, and our vaccination program has put the EU to shame. This week we will see an increasingly confident Boris Johnson leading calls at the G7 summit in Cornwall to get the world vaccinated against Covid by the end of next year and Chancellor Rishi Sunak basking in international congratulations for brokering the Big Tech tax deal. Expectations are also rising for autumn's UN climate change conference in Glasgow. And British trade deals with other countries continue to be struck with impressive regularity.

😂😂 I'm afraid that if you can only repeat propaganda from the most deceitful government this country has ever had then you really are wasting everybody's time in posting at all.

BF makes an interesting point -  even if you are trying to portray just how stupid Brexiteers are, I think you are starting to overcook it a bit 🤣

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54 minutes ago, SwindonCanary said:

Tell me what's wrong with that statement, does it not feel good that Britain is doing well ?

It would, if it was true, but it is largely made up guff from Patrick O'Flynn in the Daily Express.

Some made up guff from the Express

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6 minutes ago, SwindonCanary said:

tell me what's wrong with it ?

Why on earth should we when:

a) We already have

b) You never take any notice of our replies even when you are presented with facts that are easily verifiable.

c) There would be no need (well less need ) to continually correct your stupidity if you read a real newspaper, or looked at other sources rather than believing anything and everything in a propaganda rag for RWNJs like the Express.

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5 minutes ago, SwindonCanary said:

tell me what's wrong with it ?

For a start Sunak opposed the tech tax arrangements, until Biden kicked Johnson's **** over it. Johnson leads no one globally, the US administration hold him in contempt and the UK has to suck it up because he is so desparate for a deal, any deal with anyone at any cost.

What price sovereignity, eh?

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1 minute ago, SwindonCanary said:

So how come Boris was praised for his work in the G7

By whom, the Express, Patrick O'Flynn? 🤣🤣🤣

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10 hours ago, Rock The Boat said:

This has nothing at all to do with contract law. It's a treaty not a contract. You really shouldn't get involved in discussions outside your rather limited lane.

Oh dear, you really are thick aren't you! Last time you made this utterly stupid comment I linked several articles that pointed out that for legal purposes treaties are treated as legally binding CONTRACTS. I should have realised you are too thick to read anything more challenging than a Peter and Jane Ladybird book. Sadly they don't do one on contract law and treaties so your mind-numbing ignorance will inevitably continue. 

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18 minutes ago, SwindonCanary said:

So how come Boris was praised for his work in the G7

It doesn't start until the 11th June, what has he done to earn praise?

 

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 he was praised for his work on the virus and championing free and fair trade and renewed calls to end all spending on oil and gas.

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10 minutes ago, SwindonCanary said:

 he was praised for his work on the virus and championing free and fair trade and renewed calls to end all spending on oil and gas.

By whom?

 

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6 hours ago, A Load of Squit said:

"Treaty, a binding formal agreement, contract, or other written instrument that establishes obligations between two or more subjects."

 

The difference between treaty and contract

 is that treaty is (international law) a binding agreement concluded by subjects of international law, namely states and international organizations while contract is an agreement between two or more parties, to perform a specific job or work order, often temporary or of fixed duration and usually governed by a written agreement.

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22 minutes ago, Rock The Boat said:

The difference between treaty and contract

 is that treaty is (international law) a binding agreement concluded by subjects of international law, namely states and international organizations while contract is an agreement between two or more parties, to perform a specific job or work order, often temporary or of fixed duration and usually governed by a written agreement.

Jesus, is that the best definition you can find? (no link or reference of course). It is not only tediously superficial, but also entirely irrelevant to my point that FOR LEGAL PURPOSES TREATIES ARE TREATED AS CONTRACTS. 

I suggest you go back and read the links I posted when you first spouted this BS. Thicko!

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On 24/12/2020 at 14:56, SwindonCanary said:

Here is the government's statement: "Everything that the British public was promised during the 2016 referendum and in the general election last year is delivered by this deal."

"We have taken back control of our money, borders, laws, trade and our fishing waters

"The deal is fantastic news for families and businesses in every part of the UK.

"We have signed the first free trade agreement based on zero tariffs and zero quotas that has ever been achieved with the EU.

"The deal is the biggest bilateral trade deal signed by either side, covering trade worth £668bn in 2019.

"The deal also guarantees that we are no longer in the lunar pull of the EU, we are not bound by EU rules, there is no role for the European Court of Justice and all of our key red lines about returning sovereignty have been achieved.

"It means that we will have full political and economic independence on 1st January 2021."

"A points-based immigration system will put us in full control of who enters the UK and free movement will end.

"We have delivered this great deal for the entire United Kingdom in record time, and under extremely challenging conditions, which protects the integrity of our internal market and Northern Ireland’s place within it.

"We have got Brexit done and we can now take full advantage of the fantastic opportunities available to us as an independent trading nation, striking trade deals with other partners around the world."

 

13 minutes ago, SwindonCanary said:

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17 minutes ago, SwindonCanary said:

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So we left with a compromise that was not purist.

So what the **** was it? 

Another LIE.

You are lied to virtually everyday Swindon and even someone as "purist" as you cannot be fooled all of the time.

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3 hours ago, SwindonCanary said:

 he was praised for his work on the virus and championing free and fair trade and renewed calls to end all spending on oil and gas.

What work on the Virus? It was Hancock according to Cummings. Boris didn't go to the meetings half the time.

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34 minutes ago, SwindonCanary said:

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Almost too funny not to think this is meant to be understood as satire. So, let's translate what has been said into straight language:

"We signed the NI protocol, which required that we have to do customs checks on various products. However, we didn't think the EU would actually expect us to do the checks that we agreed to do."

Imagine you complained to a builder that he hasn't done the work you contracted him to do and he replied, "Yes I signed the contract to do X but I didn't think for one minute you would then expect me to do X".

That's what we've got, a government of shysters and cowboys. And the whole world is looking on to see just how untrustworthy this government is in fulfilling its obligations. Looking forward to Frost and Boris' appearance on Rogue Traders.

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43 minutes ago, keelansgrandad said:

So we left with a compromise that was not purist.

So what the **** was it? 

Another LIE.

You are lied to virtually everyday Swindon and even someone as "purist" as you cannot be fooled all of the time.

Oh Yes he can .....

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Meanwhile... taking back control : means we won't let Parliament express its will because we (Boris and cabal) know better.

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