horsefly 4,279 Posted May 4, 2021 1 hour ago, SwindonCanary said: who going to tell me we had the same in the EU £1bn UK-India trade deals will create 6,000 UK jobs, says PM - BBC News 52 minutes ago, SwindonCanary said: Well at lease you didn't say the EU had a better deal 🙂 Oh dear! you're back with your usual inability to get things right: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/india-trade-deal-brexit-johnson-eu-b1841373.html Brexit: EU steals march in race for India trade deal as Johnson announces ‘enhanced partnership’ Brussels and Delhi tipped to open talks on free trade agreement within days – while UK admits ‘shared intent to begin work’ only. So, clearly the UK are behind the EU in India's priorities for a free trade deal. Who can blame them when you consider the difference in the size of the markets on offer. Anyone listening to Liz Truss' pathetic efforts on radio 4 this morning shouldn't get their hopes too high for the autumn. In particular those brexiteers who voted out to keep the "damn" immigrants out have much to fear. It is well known that the Indian government have made it very clear that any prospect for a deal depends fundamentally upon a massive increase in the number of Indian citizens having a right to emigrate to the UK. Truss clearly knows this will outrage her supporters so she ludicrously avoided mention of the "I" word and attempted to replace it with the hilarious euphemism, "mobility chapter". So, rather than admit that a FTA with India will involve an agreement to allow effective freedom of movement of Indian citizens to the UK, she prefers to talk instead of negotiating a "mobility chapter" as part of the deal. Just like the deals with Australia and Japan, any Indian deal will result in increased immigration into the UK of individuals from those countries (except in India's case the numbers will be far higher). Personally, this concerns me not a jot; however, I suspect many brexiteers will be somewhat suprised and upset to learn just how much immigration these post-brexit deals allow. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
horsefly 4,279 Posted May 4, 2021 On 03/05/2021 at 07:23, Herman said: She's from Suffolk. haha! indeed! One would have thought that any true Norfolk man would recognise that Suffolk twang wouldn't one? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herman 9,710 Posted May 4, 2021 9 hours ago, SwindonCanary said: who going to tell me we had the same in the EU £1bn UK-India trade deals will create 6,000 UK jobs, says PM - BBC News https://tradingeconomics.com/united-kingdom/exports/india 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herman 9,710 Posted May 4, 2021 It's depressing how easy it is to find this information. They just can't be bothered. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
(Hoola)Han Solo 324 Posted May 4, 2021 52 minutes ago, SwindonCanary said: How is that a positive from Brexit? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SwindonCanary 455 Posted May 4, 2021 1 hour ago, (Hoola)Han Solo said: How is that a positive from Brexit? How's all your negative Brexit comments get on here ? I know loads of you lot are against Boris so must be supporting Labour I'm just pointing out that you lot are wrong once again like Brexit Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
horsefly 4,279 Posted May 4, 2021 1 minute ago, SwindonCanary said: I'm just pointing out that you lot are wrong once again like Brexit You got the last part of that clause right, well done! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
keelansgrandad 6,679 Posted May 4, 2021 2 hours ago, SwindonCanary said: And? Is 27 nearly 40? Or is 32 nearly 40? We have discussed Labours problems (on the right topic) for weeks so its not much of a shock. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
horsefly 4,279 Posted May 4, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, SwindonCanary said: You just don't get it do you? Growth from an absolutely sh*te position is pretty meaningless. How about you respond at last to the figures I posted some time ago about the 96% decline in sales to the EU suffered by the Dairy Industry, and the loss of £1.1 bn in sales in the 3 months since January. Edited May 4, 2021 by horsefly Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rock The Boat 1,324 Posted May 5, 2021 7 hours ago, Herman said: https://tradingeconomics.com/united-kingdom/exports/india This is for goods only, what about services? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herman 9,710 Posted May 5, 2021 (edited) As some of us have to work today I'll leave it as something for you and Swindo to do.👍 Edited May 5, 2021 by Herman Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
(Hoola)Han Solo 324 Posted May 5, 2021 (edited) 11 hours ago, SwindonCanary said: How's all your negative Brexit comments get on here ? I know loads of you lot are against Boris so must be supporting Labour I'm just pointing out that you lot are wrong once again like Brexit They’re not negative for the sake of it. They’re what’s happening in the real world. Not everybody is a mindless fool like you who has been brainwashed by the Boris cult. You’re basically a sheep mate. Edited May 5, 2021 by (Hoola)Han Solo Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SwindonCanary 455 Posted May 5, 2021 48 minutes ago, (Hoola)Han Solo said: They’re not negative for the sake of it. They’re what’s happening in the real world. Not everybody is a mindless fool like you who has been brainwashed by the Boris cult. You’re basically a sheep mate. just pointing out that it's a positive Brexit thread, as you had a go at me for putting up how poor Labour were. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
horsefly 4,279 Posted May 5, 2021 2 minutes ago, SwindonCanary said: just pointing out that it's a positive Brexit thread, as you had a go at me for putting up how poor Labour were. You have been challenged many, many times to come up with the name of a UK company or industry that claims to have benefited from brexit. We have pointed out the thousands that flood the internet claiming to have lost out because of brexit. For example, you have still said nothing about the £1.1bn lost by the dairy industry since January. So, since you keep banging on about it, I'm looking forward to your "positive" list of companies that have said they have benefited from brexit Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SwindonCanary 455 Posted May 5, 2021 And you never mention how well the EU are doing but I don't worry about it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
horsefly 4,279 Posted May 5, 2021 7 minutes ago, SwindonCanary said: And you never mention how well the EU are doing but I don't worry about it Only a fool would not be worried when his country's main market for exports (circa 50%) is suffering losses because of decisions his own country made. The EU didn't choose brexit you buffoon. Are you really trying to claim that it's ok that brexit has seriously screwed up UK industry because it also screwed up the EU too? Is this some perverse variant on the normal "win-win" aim of a standard trade deal? Are we now pursuing a "lose-lose" strategy? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SwindonCanary 455 Posted May 5, 2021 still not giving the EU any credit Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Well b back 3,186 Posted May 5, 2021 44 minutes ago, SwindonCanary said: still not giving the EU any credit Despite the fact you and Johnson told us how bad the EU vaccine roll out was going, ( which had nothing to do with Brexit ) neither of you seem to want to talk about it anymore ? Without telling Johnson’s do you have any reason for that ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
horsefly 4,279 Posted May 5, 2021 1 hour ago, SwindonCanary said: still not giving the EU any credit Thanks to brexit the Dutch seem to be doing nicely at the UK's expense: This was happening two years prior to our departure from the EU https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/feb/09/brexit-uk-companies-discuss-moving-to-netherlands https://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/brexit-no-deal-uk-netherlands-company-relocation-a9080666.html Reports from this year: https://www.theneweuropean.co.uk/brexit-news/europe-news/firms-choose-netherlands-over-britain-due-to-brexit-7564056 https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/jan/30/uk-firms-plan-to-shift-across-channel-after-brexit-chaos https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jan/26/brexit-dutch-warehouse-boom-as-uk-firms-forced-to-invest-abroad Logistics and warehousing companies in the Netherlands are being inundated with requests from British businesses looking to rent warehouse space, as the country experiences a Brexit boom in investment and jobs. Thousands of small businesses have been plunged into crisis by the UK’s departure from the EU, with exports to the continent collapsing because of delays at ports, increased shipping costs, and the sudden addition of VAT, customs duties, and in some cases tariffs, on shipments sent from the UK to customers within the bloc. An absolute killer': small UK firms struggle with Brexit VAT rules Many have been left with no option but to invest in distribution networks within the EU, and the Dutch logistics industry is reaping the rewards. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SwindonCanary 455 Posted May 5, 2021 Anyone knowing Billy on here always know the he likes to have the last word. Even if it is nonsense Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Creative Midfielder 1,985 Posted May 5, 2021 18 minutes ago, SwindonCanary said: Anyone knowing Billy on here always know the he likes to have the last word. Even if it is nonsense Everyone on here knows that nonsense is your stock in trade. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SwindonCanary 455 Posted May 5, 2021 22 minutes ago, Creative Midfielder said: Everyone on here knows that nonsense is your stock in trade. Same as you Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
A Load of Squit 5,119 Posted May 5, 2021 https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-05-05/london-emerges-from-lockdown-harder-hit-than-much-of-the-u-k The financial district also is suffering from Brexit, which ended the automatic right of banks to do business on the continent. More than 440 financial firms have moved some of their operations into the EU, resulting in about 7,400 job relocations and a 900 billion-pound ($1.2 trillion) shift of assets. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
horsefly 4,279 Posted May 5, 2021 1 hour ago, SwindonCanary said: Anyone knowing Billy on here always know the he likes to have the last word. Even if it is nonsense For God sake do stop this ridiculous Billy nonsense. It's plain to see that your playground name calling is a very poorly disguised attempt to distract from the fact you have no answer to the links I have provided. Just grow up you sad child. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Creative Midfielder 1,985 Posted May 5, 2021 48 minutes ago, SwindonCanary said: Same as you Never really left the playground, have you? I suppose that is one possible explanation for the continuous stream of childish and un/misinformed rubbish that you post........ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jools 584 Posted May 5, 2021 6 hours ago, Herman said: As some of us have to work today. New job? 🙃 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rock The Boat 1,324 Posted May 5, 2021 2 hours ago, horsefly said: Thanks to brexit the Dutch seem to be doing nicely at the UK's expense: This was happening two years prior to our departure from the EU https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/feb/09/brexit-uk-companies-discuss-moving-to-netherlands https://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/brexit-no-deal-uk-netherlands-company-relocation-a9080666.html Reports from this year: https://www.theneweuropean.co.uk/brexit-news/europe-news/firms-choose-netherlands-over-britain-due-to-brexit-7564056 https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/jan/30/uk-firms-plan-to-shift-across-channel-after-brexit-chaos https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jan/26/brexit-dutch-warehouse-boom-as-uk-firms-forced-to-invest-abroad Logistics and warehousing companies in the Netherlands are being inundated with requests from British businesses looking to rent warehouse space, as the country experiences a Brexit boom in investment and jobs. Thousands of small businesses have been plunged into crisis by the UK’s departure from the EU, with exports to the continent collapsing because of delays at ports, increased shipping costs, and the sudden addition of VAT, customs duties, and in some cases tariffs, on shipments sent from the UK to customers within the bloc. An absolute killer': small UK firms struggle with Brexit VAT rules Many have been left with no option but to invest in distribution networks within the EU, and the Dutch logistics industry is reaping the rewards. This is b0ll0x. The Dutch are reaping the reward of French stupidity at Calais trying to make British exporters lives as difficult as possible. As a result companies are moving operations away from France to Holland. As was predicted a long time ago and as I said would happen if the French behaved like the idiots they are. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rock The Boat 1,324 Posted May 5, 2021 55 minutes ago, A Load of Squit said: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-05-05/london-emerges-from-lockdown-harder-hit-than-much-of-the-u-k The financial district also is suffering from Brexit, which ended the automatic right of banks to do business on the continent. More than 440 financial firms have moved some of their operations into the EU, resulting in about 7,400 job relocations and a 900 billion-pound ($1.2 trillion) shift of assets. Correct. About 7000 jobs have moved. The project fear prediction was hundreds of thousands of jobs would move. Why were the predictions so wrong, can you tell us? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites