horsefly 4,263 Posted March 26, 2021 Even the Express can't avoid the brexit truth all of the time: https://www.msn.com/en-gb/money/other/britain-lost-significant-access-to-eu-policing-information-after-brexit-agreement-report/ar-BB1eZ9pq?ocid=msedgntp Britain lost ‘significant' access to EU policing information after Brexit agreement-report It highlights that the UK will no longer have access to the Schengen Information System (SIS II), used extensively, pre-Brexit, by UK law enforcement agencies to obtain real-time information about the movement of criminals, missing persons and objects of interest. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BigFish 1,975 Posted March 26, 2021 4 hours ago, SwindonCanary said: Plan end of strict EU competition rules! UK shipbuilding set for major post-Brexit boost - YouTube Misleading guff from the US, which even admits that EU rules DID NOT require competitive tendering for warships. Admit it, you got it wrong again. Pathetic, really. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
paul moy 235 Posted March 26, 2021 13 hours ago, Jools said: Good news for 'Keelansgrandpapa' in Cornwall 👇 Of course one will never hear it mentioned in/on the Lefty Guardian or BBC, but it's a fact that if one has something to sell and there's a market that wants to buy it, a workaround some bureaucratic t0sser with a clip board can always be found 🙃 Just shows that all will be sorted in time and what a waste of space the EU is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SwindonCanary 455 Posted March 26, 2021 Plan end of strict EU competition rules! UK shipbuilding set for major post-Brexit boost - YouTube Public tendering rules in the EU - Your Europe (europa.eu) Brexit: what does it mean for public procurement? | Travers Smith Brexit: the end of public procurement rules or business as usual? (twobirds.com) What has the EU done for the UK? | Financial Times (ft.com) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BigFish 1,975 Posted March 26, 2021 (edited) 17 minutes ago, SwindonCanary said: Plan end of strict EU competition rules! UK shipbuilding set for major post-Brexit boost - YouTube Public tendering rules in the EU - Your Europe (europa.eu) Brexit: what does it mean for public procurement? | Travers Smith Brexit: the end of public procurement rules or business as usual? (twobirds.com) What has the EU done for the UK? | Financial Times (ft.com) You just don't understand any of this, do you? Defence spending was always exempt from EU Procurement regulation for reasons of national security. All the UK government had to do was declare a particular purchase security related and they could let the contract to whomever they wished. It is they just chose not to. There is no Brexit windfall here, it is all lies, except perhaps in South Korea. You got it wrong again. Edited March 26, 2021 by BigFish 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
keelansgrandad 6,679 Posted March 26, 2021 1 hour ago, paul moy said: Just shows that all will be sorted in time and what a waste of space the EU is. So a ferry is going to berth in a Cornish port to pick up some shellfish. Well that makes Brexit so worthwhile. How is that improving trade? We used to send shellfish in the normal way. Now, a small amount is actually getting sent by a ferry going out of its way to pick it up. And that is success? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bill 1,788 Posted March 26, 2021 20 minutes ago, keelansgrandad said: So a ferry is going to berth in a Cornish port to pick up some shellfish. that still does not change the strict new regulations the UK has imposed upon itself by becoming a third country so you can have all the transport types available to mankind, but if the regulations are there, then it is pointless Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yellow Fever 3,690 Posted March 26, 2021 23 minutes ago, keelansgrandad said: So a ferry is going to berth in a Cornish port to pick up some shellfish. Well that makes Brexit so worthwhile. How is that improving trade? We used to send shellfish in the normal way. Now, a small amount is actually getting sent by a ferry going out of its way to pick it up. And that is success? It's all very good but how does it help the paperwork and regulations - they still have to be met whether the ferry goes from Newlyn or Dover. Perhaps the UK boats could land their catch at Roscoff directly and cut out the middlemen as the Scotch are doing in Denmark 😉. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bill 1,788 Posted March 26, 2021 more Brexit stupidity "At least 10 EU countries will no longer extradite their nationals to face prosecution in the UK because of Brexit, the government has admitted. In correspondence with the House of Lords EU Committee, it said Croatia, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Latvia, Poland, Slovakia, Slovenia and Sweden will be “invoking constitutional rules as reason not to extradite their own nationals to the UK”. A letter from the Home Office said it amounted to “an absolute bar on the extradition of own nationals” to the UK. Additionally, Austria and the Czech Republic will only extradite their own nationals to Britain with their consent. at least the UK can now send those naughty asylum seekers straight back err, no - thanks to more Brexit stupidity "When the Brexit transition period expires on 31 December, the government will lose the right to transfer refugees and migrants to the EU country in which they arrived, a cornerstone of the European asylum system known as the Dublin regulation." So, hop on a rubber dinghy, land in the UK and thanks to Brexit it will be nigh on impossible to be returned to Europe - hence the numbers coming over Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bill 1,788 Posted March 26, 2021 9 minutes ago, Yellow Fever said: It's all very good but how does it help the paperwork and regulations - they still have to be met whether the ferry goes from Newlyn or Dover. Perhaps the UK boats could land their catch at Roscoff directly and cut out the middlemen as the Scotch are doing in Denmark 😉 UK boats had been landing their catch directly into Europe, however as a third country the regulations are now those that apply to a non EI country - far stricter and regulations that the UK voted to implement when it was a member. The problem being that much of the regulation not only costs far more, but is time consuming....something that is a huge disadvantage to the sale value if shellfish Of course the UK could have benefitted from having a UK MEP who spoke up for UK fishing. It had Farage, a lazt shyster who only turned up to ONE meeting of the Fisheries committee (of which he was a member) - over 40 he skived off. At every point the blame lies solely with brexiteers - who in the blind rush to demonstrate their stupidity have left the UK facing a continuos loss of trade, income and jobs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
paul moy 235 Posted March 26, 2021 44 minutes ago, keelansgrandad said: So a ferry is going to berth in a Cornish port to pick up some shellfish. Well that makes Brexit so worthwhile. How is that improving trade? We used to send shellfish in the normal way. Now, a small amount is actually getting sent by a ferry going out of its way to pick it up. And that is success? Typical remoaner reply. Life is not all about trade with the rip-off protectionist EUSSR ..... it is about raising our standard of living and quality of life based on our own decisions, and not being preyed upon and eaten alive by dictatorial parasites to the tune of multi-billions annually. . There will also be ferries bringing us cheap quality fresh produce from Africa btw and avoiding bundles of EU red tape and imports. 🤗 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
horsefly 4,263 Posted March 26, 2021 32 minutes ago, Bill said: that still does not change the strict new regulations the UK has imposed upon itself by becoming a third country so you can have all the transport types available to mankind, but if the regulations are there, then it is pointless Exactly! The existence of various forms of transport has never been the issue. The problem is the existence of onerous forms of red tape and the massive increase in costs that brexit delivered to fishing businesses on Jan 1st. Just par for the course for the RWNJs to completely miss the point and celebrate yet another own goal. So very dumb! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
horsefly 4,263 Posted March 26, 2021 (edited) 8 minutes ago, paul moy said: Typical remoaner reply. Life is not all about trade with the rip-off protectionist EUSSR ..... it is about raising our standard of living and quality of life based on our own decisions, and not being preyed upon and eaten alive by dictatorial parasites to the tune of multi-billions annually. . There will also be ferries bringing us cheap quality fresh produce from Africa btw and avoiding bundles of EU red tape and imports. 🤗 The fake economist speaks, the rest of us fall about laughing at his crass stupidity. Proof that xenophobia really does rot the brain. (btw, most of us prefer our fresh produce to be of good quality, not "cheap quality", no surprise your standards are so low). Edited March 26, 2021 by horsefly Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BigFish 1,975 Posted March 26, 2021 (edited) Moyo is completely missing the point again. The problem is not imports, because UK Border Force is in such chaos that UK has taken back control of our borders by opening them completely. The problem is exports, which have largely collpased for "Global Britain", especially fish which was apparently key before we left and now is on the brink of total meltdown. Edited March 26, 2021 by BigFish Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bill 1,788 Posted March 26, 2021 7 minutes ago, paul moy said: Typical remoaner reply. Life is not all about trade with the rip-off protectionist EUSSR ..... it is about raising our standard of living and quality of life based on our own decisions, and not being preyed upon and eaten alive by dictatorial parasites to the tune of multi-billions annually. . There will also be ferries bringing us cheap quality fresh produce from Africa btw and avoiding bundles of EU red tape and imports. 🤗 I've seen a weathercock * in force ten gales keep to more fixed position than Jools bring back RTB, would be my suggestion (if he is not stuck in the A11 roadworks. that is 😂) * co ck being the operative word in his case Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bill 1,788 Posted March 26, 2021 10 minutes ago, horsefly said: Exactly! The existence of various forms of transport has never been the issue. The problem is the existence of onerous forms of red tape and the massive increase in costs that brexit delivered to fishing businesses on Jan 1st. Just par for the course for the RWNJs to completely miss the point and celebrate yet another own goal. So very dumb! actually it is the Jools/Moy/RTB thing trying to wrest the crown from Swindo I wouldn't take his shy te too seriously as I am sure he doesn't either , hence his constant about turns and contradictions nothing more than a pound shop troll who still seems able to fool a good number on here 🙄 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bill 1,788 Posted March 26, 2021 22 minutes ago, BigFish said: the concern there is that the animal production cannot simply be switched off and stored as with. say. whiskey the UK is currently stuck with over 100,000 pigs that can no longer be exported due to the cost, yet still require costly feed - perhaps those brave new deals might include muslim countries 🤪 so how do UK farmers make the necessary long term decisions when they don't know if they will be able to sell their produce, and with brexit aiming towards a lowering of food standards will they be able to compete against cheap, low quality produce ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
horsefly 4,263 Posted March 26, 2021 (edited) 34 minutes ago, BigFish said: Absolutely shocking! But don't worry at least Liz has got the Pork markets issue sorted: Errr... maybe not! Edited March 26, 2021 by horsefly 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bill 1,788 Posted March 26, 2021 a clueless Tory politician an irritating puppet Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SwindonCanary 455 Posted March 26, 2021 https://youtu.be/AmzJr05tdfc 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
A Load of Squit 5,066 Posted March 26, 2021 7 minutes ago, SwindonCanary said: https://youtu.be/AmzJr05tdfc He's just another RWNJ with a Youtube channel. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bill 1,788 Posted March 26, 2021 2 hours ago, A Load of Squit said: He's just another RWNJ with a Youtube channel. just shows how much money there is to be made from peddling lies to thick people (ask Farage) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SwindonCanary 455 Posted March 26, 2021 bill & load of Squit are just showing how ignorant they can be Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
keelansgrandad 6,679 Posted March 26, 2021 5 hours ago, SwindonCanary said: https://youtu.be/AmzJr05tdfc Putting Britain back on the map again. What a pathetic attitude. Why can't we just be us and happy to exist. Oh no, lets get back to the old Empire days. An Empire we had to get rid of because we couldn't afford one. We don't need to be a World power anymore. There are more important internal matters than that stupid ethos. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SwindonCanary 455 Posted March 26, 2021 Not so much an Empire, more doing our bit to improve Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BigFish 1,975 Posted March 26, 2021 6 hours ago, SwindonCanary said: https://youtu.be/AmzJr05tdfc Another shouty gammon with a YouTube making up lies. If this is typical of where you get your information from @SwindonCanary, it is no wonder you are wrong on almost every subject. Pretty pathetic really 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SwindonCanary 455 Posted March 26, 2021 I like some people on the web better than some supporters on here ! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herman 9,585 Posted March 27, 2021 No toxic fried chicken for a while. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
A Load of Squit 5,066 Posted March 27, 2021 7 hours ago, SwindonCanary said: I like some people on the web better than some supporters on here ! Well if you like it so much why don't you go and live there. 😀 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites