The Positive Brexit Thread

[PurpleCanary 5,558]

1 hour ago, Yellow Fever said:

Administrators...Hedge funds...

There was an interview with a man at a Trump rally who claimed he was making four times as much money with the orange buffoon  as president than under Obama. The interviewer was sceptical and asked what his job was. Debt collector came the answer...

[SwindonCanary 455]

point out any points you'd like me to answer,  as far as I can see she's a remouner who's having a go

[horsefly 4,300]

4 minutes ago, SwindonCanary said:

point out any points you'd like me to answer,  as far as I can see she's a remouner who's having a go

Christ almighty! You really are the the thickest person on this site SHE VOTED FOR BREXIT you moron. She lists many things that make her job impossible as a result of Brexit. As  the fool who says Brexit is working you need to say what she has got wrong. So state clearly what she has got wrong.

[SwindonCanary 455]

12 minutes ago, horsefly said:

So state clearly what she has got wrong

She changed her mind 

[horsefly 4,300]

2 minutes ago, SwindonCanary said:

She changed her mind 

So you can't say anything to her, in other words you admit Brexit is exactly the disaster she has described. What a lying bunch of failures you and your fellow Brexiteers are.

[SwindonCanary 455]

She admits to having voted ‘leave’ because she was sick of employment and health and safety rules originating from Brussels.

but it's clear she did not follow the governments pages on their site, so that's the trouble paperwork not filled in the correct way

Edited February 1, 2021 by SwindonCanary

[BroadstairsR 2,164]

I rarely get involved in this conversation because I have little respect for it.

But, why look a gift horse in the mouth?

It's all so suddenly become the ultimate political fantasy after four years of insults and ignorance. The sudden realisation that exposes you 'opponents' for exactly what they stand for.

In sum, it's the way we should judge the behaviour of the European Commission over the last few days.

For us Eurosceptics this has been surely the teachable moment. We told you that the EU was a bureaucratic nightmare, a protectionist racket, a mercantile scam and now we have evidence.

Making a drama out of a crisis was the whole point of the Commission's tactics. A drama which detracts  from the underlying scandal, which is the Commission's total mismanagement of it's vaccine procurement programme.

The Commission chose the path of confrontation because that is the way they roll. 

The infamous Guy De Verhofstadt has reacted by admiring the EU as an "Empire," a protectionist tent, and is unruffled.

For a start, this assumes that no one inside the tent gets pissed on, which is clearly untrue. For instance, the Republic of Ireland, an ultra-loyal member of both the EU and Eurozone, wasn’t even informed (let alone consulted) about the decision to invoke Article 16.

The real difference between being outside and inside the tent is how you get pissed on. Outside, the main threat is trade policy — which is exactly the weapon being used by the EU against the UK in regard to vaccines. But inside the tent, you can get hosed-down in other ways. For instance, last year the European Commission acquired the power to borrow hundreds of billions of Euros from the money markets — for the purpose of protecting the Eurozone from the impact of the Covid crisis. If the UK had voted to Remain, we’d have been on the hook for that colossal debt — despite staying out of the single currency.

With Mutti on her way out we should be  especially concerned about an EU in which Emmanuel Macron is then hoping to be the leading light. Last week, it wasn’t just the European Commission who showed us who they were — we also saw the true qualities of the Anglophobic, brexit-hating, federalist French President on full display. His absurd claims about the efficacy of the Oxford AstraZeneca vaccine are a warning sign that should not be ignored. The same goes for the opinion poll that showed Marine Le Pen running him close in a run-off vote for President. Yes, that’s the candidate of the far Right within four percentage points of leading the EU’s second largest economy. Meanwhile her ideological soulmate, Matteo Salvini, is in poll position to become the next Prime Minister of Italy (the EU’s third largest economy). 

We therefore cannot assume that the EU of the future will be like the EU of the present. The EU of last week was just a glimpse of how  bad things could get, assuming they could get any worse.

 

 

 

 

Edited February 1, 2021 by BroadstairsR

[BroadstairsR 2,164]

Furthermore, and let's put the boot in, before getting back to anecdotes about bureaucratic hold-ups at poor little Dover (whilst ignoring the appeal of the impending Asia/Pacific/ Australasia agreement,) or bemoaning the fate of the elitist and expensive (not for the off-spring of the checkout worker or the taxi driver that's for sure,) narrow (not in the interests of our Asian and Caribbean youth who wish to explore their roots,) Erasmus scheme.

 We can even bemoan the fate of Scottish seed potato growers if need be.

 

"Consider the speech given by Guy Verhofstadt — not a man shy of showing us who he is — to the 2019 Lib Dem party conference:

“The world of tomorrow is not a world order based on nation states or countries. It is a world order that is based on empires… The world of tomorrow is a world of empires in which we Europeans, and you British, can only defend your interests, your way of life, by doing it together, in a European framework and in the European Union.”

An imperial mindset would certainly explain why the Commission acted in the way it did. Empires aren’t famous for asking nicely."

I like Guy de Verhofstadt very much. He plays the pantomime villain in the same way that Nigel Farage does. The problem is that he is also as dangerous as Farage, both by his extremism and his influence.

Edited February 1, 2021 by BroadstairsR

[PurpleCanary 5,558]

1 hour ago, A Load of Squit said:

As this is the positive Brexit thread we can safely say that the most positives are for companies and warehouses in the EU. Also there's Nissan who have been given a large chunk of tax payers money.

https://www.ft.com/content/21090acb-23c2-4c1b-a013-7ecddaa18c7a

Brexit one month on: what has changed?

Predictably the mistake, quickly put right, the EU made over vaccines and the Irish Sea border has led to calls for the whole protocol to be eased or even scrappped, because it is damaging businesses in Northern Ireland. Well, yes, of course it is. But it was what Johnson wanted - his great negotiating 'triumph'.

May, in political hock to the Unionists, had got the EU, which wanted the border in the Irish Sea, to agree to a border between the north and the south. So Johnson, partly to tear up the May deal on the principle that it was her deal, and partly to show what a great negotiator he was, gave the EU what they had wanted all along.

I don't think the EU will cave in on this, since the vaccines mistake was a one-off, and rectified. The basic truth still remains, that there has to be a tightly controlled border between Britain, as a third country, and the single market, of which Northern Ireland is in effect a part.
 

[SwindonCanary 455]

Brexit - GOV.UK (www.gov.uk)

I can tell you now there has been on disruption between BMW MINI UK and the suppliers in Germany as it was all cleared before hand 

 

Edited February 1, 2021 by SwindonCanary

[horsefly 4,300]

35 minutes ago, SwindonCanary said:

She admits to having voted ‘leave’ because she was sick of employment and health and safety rules originating from Brussels.

but it's clear she did not follow the governments pages on their site, so that's the trouble paperwork not filled in the correct way

You're simply a c**t of the first order. Her, and many like her, are about to lose their livelihoods because of the appalling Brexit botch up, and all you can do is write this facetious rubbish. Shameful!

Edited February 1, 2021 by horsefly

[SwindonCanary 455]

21 minutes ago, horsefly said:

You're simply a c**t of the first order. Her, and many like her, are about to lose their livelihoods because of the appalling Brexit botch up, and all you can do is write this facetious rubbish. Shameful!

She'd been doing it for so many years I think she thought it would be easy, there are loads of paperwork to do. 

[BroadstairsR 2,164]

This is not about paperwork, bureaucracy, rotting shellfish, customs delays or even individuals and anecdotes relating to all that. Some will win, some will lose when traditional practises change. That's always the way.

It is about a failing, corrupt, expensive, misguided and bankrupt institution that, thankfully, we are no longer part of. For good or bad.

The joke going around about Ursula Van de Leyen sums it up. Apparently she was elected behind closed doors by just "a handful of votes." She was the only candidate.

She has nevertheless assumed the right to close international borders at a whim. Nobody either side of that border had a say in the matter. Empiricism at it's most dangerous. 

Edited February 1, 2021 by BroadstairsR

[horsefly 4,300]

Just now, SwindonCanary said:

She'd been doing it for so many years I think she thought it would be easy, there are loads of paperwork to do. 

Idiot! There are thousands in exactly the same position. All these people managed to trade perfectly well before brexit and now you want to make the absurd claim that they all share your sub--normal level of intellect.

You clearly haven't got a clue, so all you can come up with is your usual utter nonsense. 

And btw, where is your list of all the companies you claim are saying they are better off after Brexit? 

[SwindonCanary 455]

I can point you out to the ALAN COCKRANE bit in the Telegraph, that's a man who now changed his mind to 'leavIng the EU '

[SwindonCanary 455]

It makes me wonder why there are no lines of lorries at dover as predicted 

[horsefly 4,300]

2 minutes ago, SwindonCanary said:

It makes me wonder why there are no lines of lorries at dover as predicted 

You are so dumb! If you had bothered to read what Mrs Sault said in her interview you would have read the following:

“One company we know in Willenhall has only been able to send one out of a scheduled six trucks out to Europe so far since the start of the year,” she said.

That's 5 out of 6 Lorries missing from their normal throughput you buffoon. And if you bothered to do a tiny amount of research you'll find out that the same pattern in reduced journeys is repeated everywhere. Lorries are not being sent out you fool because  Brexit has resulted in a disastrous decline in exports. And those lorries that are on the road soon find themselves waiting for days in specially made Brexit lorry parks as they wait their turn to endure the massive increase in red tape controls.

Christ! How stupid do you have to be to ignore what is happening right  before your eyes?. 

[BroadstairsR 2,164]

22 minutes ago, SwindonCanary said:

It makes me wonder why there are no lines of lorries at dover as predicted 

This is petty Swindon.

 

So what if there were to be lines at Dover? The whole situation had become out of hand before Brexit. An out of control, monstrous depiction of all that is wrong about everything concerning our disregard for global warming and our regard for profit and even globalisation.

At your very base level hold-ups and delay will hurt the European countries more than us because we have a trade deficit (especially in the stuff carried in lorries,) but that's not the point. 

Free access to the European markets has gradually led to a dependence upon them, even at the expense of our own produce and consumers. We export glorious plate-sized Kent apples to the Middle East at premium cost/profit and import cheaper French ****e. In the meantime the fumes continue to pollute.

Thankfully Brexit will accelerate the trend towards more home production, and not just by farmers.

Edited February 1, 2021 by BroadstairsR

[horsefly 4,300]

20 minutes ago, SwindonCanary said:

I can point you out to the ALAN COCKRANE bit in the Telegraph, that's a man who now changed his mind to 'leavIng the EU '

FFS is that it?  You have nothing to say to Mrs Sault and the thousands like her. And you can't come up with any companies saying they are better off after Brexit (despite your claim that there are loads of them).

You deserve every bit of abuse you receive and much more.

Edited February 1, 2021 by horsefly

[Herman 9,763]

Swindo is bad for mental health. 

[SwindonCanary 455]

1 hour ago, horsefly said:

FFS is that it?  You have nothing to say to Mrs Sault and the thousands like her. And you can't come up with any companies saying they are better off after Brexit (despite your claim that there are loads of them).

You deserve every bit of abuse you receive and much more.

can you think of Nissan ?

[SwindonCanary 455]

New-style driving licences and number plates mark one-year anniversary of Brexit as EU flag is removed

 

01 February 2021/Categories: CILT, Industry News, Active Travel & Travel Planning, Transport Planning, Brexit

 

UK driving licences and number plates have been given a makeover to signify the beginning of a new chapter for the UK.

To mark the UK’s exit from the EU, the EU flag has been removed from all UK driving licences and number plate designs, with the first batches issued from 1 January 2021.

While existing licences and number plates will still be valid, the new versions will be issued to everyone renewing a licence or getting one for the first time.

The new designs coincide with the beginning of a number of agreements recently made between the UK and member states for British drivers, making it easier for Britons to drive in the EU when existing restrictions end.

Thanks to these agreements, UK drivers who hold photocard licences will not need an international driving permit to drive in any of the 27 EU member states, Iceland, Norway, Switzerland or Liechtenstein. UK drivers won’t need to display a GB sticker in most EU countries if their number plate has GB or GB with a Union Flag on it.

Although national restrictions are still in place, and people should not be travelling internationally unless for work or other legally permitted reasons, these new arrangements mean that Britons can easily drive in the EU for years to come
 

Transport Secretary Grant Shapps said: "Changing the designs of our driving licences and number plates is a historic moment for British motorists, and a reassertion of our independence from the EU one year on from our departure.

[horsefly 4,300]

Just now, SwindonCanary said:

can you think of Nissan ?

So you can only come up with ONE multi-national organisation that has been given a huge bribe using taxpayers money merely to stay in the country.  And even they have had to suspend production. You utterly pathetic loser!

[BigFish 1,986]

12 minutes ago, SwindonCanary said:

can you think of Nissan ?

Typical of the increasing desparation of Brexiteers as the lack of good news compares with a mounting stack of jobs lost and businesses ruined.

Good news is now things haven't got worse (although the government has had to pay the Japanese a subsidy to ensure that is the case).

[SwindonCanary 455]

Mini BMW are doing well

[Rock The Boat 1,331]

1 hour ago, BroadstairsR said:

This is not about paperwork, bureaucracy, rotting shellfish, customs delays or even individuals and anecdotes relating to all that. Some will win, some will lose when traditional practises change. That's always the way.

It is about a failing, corrupt, expensive, misguided and bankrupt institution that, thankfully, we are no longer part of. For good or bad.

The joke going around about Ursula Van de Leyen sums it up. Apparently she was elected behind closed doors by just "a handful of votes." She was the only candidate.

She has nevertheless assumed the right to close international borders at a whim. Nobody either side of that border had a say in the matter. Empiricism at it's most dangerous. 

Three excellent posts, BroadstairsR, all worthy of debate. But you will get no response because the only interest on this thread is to shout at Swindon

[SwindonCanary 455]

Has anyone thought of the fact that we are out of the EU we've save thousands of lives in Britain

[Herman 9,763]

 

[BroadstairsR 2,164]

13 minutes ago, Rock The Boat said:

Three excellent posts, BroadstairsR, all worthy of debate. But you will get no response because the only interest on this thread is to shout at Swindon

I had noticed.

 

Also, I gave no cause for insult (a speciality of some). Just presented facts which they seemed to have little answer to.

This thread has spent so long on debating trivia, exchanging insults and digging up facile twitter postings that it is no longer capable of viewing the bigger picture.

An unelected personage assumed the right to close borders in far off lands without the knowledge or consent of the two countries involved. One a member of their own club.

More amazing even than currencies, flags, national anthems, armies and perceived federalism.

 

The whole game show cannot afford the debt piling up. All countries will have these because of Covid , including the UK. At least it will be our debt, our challenge and will not be the concern of others.

 

Edited February 1, 2021 by BroadstairsR

[Jools 584]

4 hours ago, horsefly said:

Bloody remoaner!!! It's only another 500 jobs lost, a mere drop in the ocean compared to all the others that have gone. And just think of all those jobs that have been created like the ones at ...er...uhm...give me a few years something is bound to come along, oh! yes! just remembered they're predicting a big increase in trade for baliffs, and form checkers at the customs borders. Happy days!

Jobs lost, no jobs gained, blah, blah, blah...

Have you forgotten about the Coronavirus and its damage to business, jobs and the economy worldwide?

I expect you're going to blame Brexit for the virus at some point 🙃