dj11 377 Posted January 18, 2021 (edited) Johnson has always made promises with no intention of keeping them, and not just in politics. I believe he still plans to break the rules he signed up to, but because the EU don’t trust him, especially after threatening to break the law over the WA, they did him up like a kipper( pun intended), and that makes it very difficult for him. Edited January 18, 2021 by dj11 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SwindonCanary 455 Posted January 18, 2021 (edited) 20 minutes ago, BigFish said: If there is a fishing industry left My uncle who lives off fishing is doing the same as usual at the moment, it has not come to a holt. Edited January 18, 2021 by SwindonCanary Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BigFish 1,975 Posted January 18, 2021 Just now, SwindonCanary said: My uncle who lives of fishing is doing the same as usual at the moment, it has not come to a holt. Typical Brexiteer, as long as it doesn't impact them or theirs they don't care how many livelihoods are destroyed by their selfish actions. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yellow Fever 3,690 Posted January 18, 2021 All I can see if this is what Raab calls a 'good' deal for fishing then heaven help us for the 'not so good' parts of the deal. Of course - If we can now rip up all the worker protection, little redundancy pay, hire-'em fire-'em, 2 weeks paid holiday i.e. move to a dynamic US system it will work (and yes the fisherman / farmers can either compete on a global market or go bust - subsidy? What's that?) - that is at least consistent with what we've done. Let's get on with it then in those red wall seats - what - not what we voted for - too late dumbos. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dj11 377 Posted January 18, 2021 13 minutes ago, SwindonCanary said: My uncle who lives of fishing is doing the same as usual at the moment, it has not come to a holt. I am sorry, but this reply clearly shows that he is a troll, and I am surprised you still converse with him. If everyone ignored his over the top comments, he would go away. I think you should all try it. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Well b back 3,140 Posted January 18, 2021 57 minutes ago, SwindonCanary said: So you think the EU is playing fair ? With the greatest of respect why would they ?. We voted to leave and go it on our own, why would you expect them to put our interests before theirs ? Think of how bad it would have been had we not done a deal. Like we were told by Boris and Farage we could do it all ourself, reality has dawned on Europe, that if ( as in sheep ) Spain can provide why do they need the U.K. Why do they want to buy week old fresh fish and seafood from us ? It might be British but if nobody wants to buy it, it does not really matter. What you are really saying is as time moves on they will need us less and less, let’s hope the plus however many jobs there were going to be in the U.K. don’t become the same figure as a minus. As far as I see Boris and Farage must have known the EU could make it difficult for us to trade, but never mentioned it, so they must have a plan you would think ? Again after reading the comments of the likes of Moy I can see many leave votes were racially motivated, with sheer hatred, especially towards the French, with not a lot to do with the economics. I suspect the tables are now turned and they dislike us just as much. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Well b back 3,140 Posted January 18, 2021 A genuine question, yesterday when our Tesco delivery arrived all the fruit was unavailable. My wife therefore went to the supermarket to purchase some. After visiting 3 she managed to get some pears and apples in Aldi. Does anyone know if this is just lots of circumstances or is this to do with Europe ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bill 1,788 Posted January 18, 2021 6 minutes ago, Well b back said: A genuine question, yesterday when our Tesco delivery arrived all the fruit was unavailable. My wife therefore went to the supermarket to purchase some. After visiting 3 she managed to get some pears and apples in Aldi. Does anyone know if this is just lots of circumstances or is this to do with Europe ? It is down to tge EU not 'playing fair' 😅 They are sticking to the rules the, err ..................UK agreed to when it was a member, and signed up to in the 'deal' Sainsburys seem to be out if fruit by mid afternoon, while Aldi have been refilling late in the evening - something I have not seen in the fruit aisle before Of course this could all be coincidence, the failings in so many other areas of trade and supply could just be 'fake new's * and our betters' were not lying to us at all * insert numerous sheep bleating Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Well b back 3,140 Posted January 18, 2021 4 minutes ago, Bill said: It is down to tge EU not 'playing fair' 😅 They are sticking to the rules the, err ..................UK agreed to when it was a member, and signed up to in the 'deal' Sainsburys seem to be out if fruit by mid afternoon, while Aldi have been refilling late in the evening - something I have not seen in the fruit aisle before Of course this could all be coincidence, the failings in so many other areas of trade and supply could just be 'fake new's * and our betters' were not lying to us at all * insert numerous sheep bleating Thanks Bill Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
keelansgrandad 6,679 Posted January 18, 2021 1 hour ago, SwindonCanary said: My uncle who lives off fishing is doing the same as usual at the moment, it has not come to a holt. He lives in the Phillipines 1 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Well b back 3,140 Posted January 18, 2021 1 hour ago, Herman said: Fishermen driving their trucks to Westminster. 😂 Video for you https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-55706114 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
A Load of Squit 5,066 Posted January 18, 2021 1 hour ago, SwindonCanary said: My uncle who lives off fishing is doing the same as usual at the moment, it has not come to a holt. Why is he still working at his age, you've retired so the generation above you should've retired a while ago. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yellow Fever 3,690 Posted January 18, 2021 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Well b back said: Video for you https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-55706114 This is pertinent point - Mark Moore, manager of the Dartmouth Crab Company, said his business and others were protesting to "raise awareness" of the impact of new border checks. He told BBC Radio Five Live his company had faced delays of up to eight and a half hours when delivering produce into the European Union. He added that the situation was "especially difficult" for the shellfish sector, where goods were at risk of going off before reaching customers. "It's not about the increased documentation per se," he said. "We have taken that on board, and we ourselves - and I know many others - have had no issues with producing the actual paperwork." "It's the volume required and the timeframe in which to produce it, which doesn't lend itself to live shellfish and fish generally." In short their business isn't now viable selling to the EU from outside the SM or without a deal at least similar to Norway (inside the SM). Who would of guessed that ? Edited January 18, 2021 by Yellow Fever 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
How I Wrote Elastic Man 1,167 Posted January 18, 2021 19 minutes ago, Well b back said: Video for you https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-55706114 They have just interviewed industry leader, Ella Guru Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herman 9,585 Posted January 18, 2021 36 minutes ago, Well b back said: Video for you https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-55706114 It’s been less than three weeks since we left. I wonder who will be next to kick off. Odds on the car industry. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yellow Fever 3,690 Posted January 18, 2021 2 minutes ago, Herman said: It’s been less than three weeks since we left. I wonder who will be next to kick off. Odds on the car industry. Waiting for the English Lamb season.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bill 1,788 Posted January 18, 2021 3 minutes ago, Yellow Fever said: Waiting for the English Lamb season.... It has certainly affected the gammon industry, as I have never seen it so quiet 😏 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bill 1,788 Posted January 18, 2021 14 minutes ago, Herman said: It’s been less than three weeks since we left. I wonder who will be next to kick off. Odds on the car industry. The brexit bounce ? https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-55702243 'Soaring shipping costs are likely to cause a bounce in the cost of trampolines in the UK this summer' Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herman 9,585 Posted January 18, 2021 14 minutes ago, Yellow Fever said: Waiting for the English Lamb season.... When does that start? Early February? The bedding plant season starts soon too. Expect empty garden centres. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yellow Fever 3,690 Posted January 18, 2021 8 minutes ago, Herman said: When does that start? Early February? The bedding plant season starts soon too. Expect empty garden centres. I will say it - Led by the nose like lambs to the slaughter.... Baaaa Baaah. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bill 1,788 Posted January 18, 2021 2 minutes ago, Herman said: When does that start? Early February? The bedding plant season starts soon too. Expect empty garden centres. That is the birthing of lambs, not the sale However there is a good report below which explains why the UK was in the EU in that respect - and why it could spell disaster for UK lamb exports to the EU Expect the serious bleating to start when the subsidy junkies finally grasp the implications of Brexit https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-55209329 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bill 1,788 Posted January 18, 2021 13 minutes ago, Herman said: The bedding plant season starts soon too. Expect empty garden centres. a report in the problems was put up in September (below) - which demonstrates that these problems were not only known about but well publicised way before 1st January and out was blatant lying by Johnson to suggest that some sort of deal could remove them and it was blatant stupidity from brexiteers who chose to ignore so many experts in their industry - yet believe the one habitual liar. Johnson https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-54210558 perhaps the thickos could tell us why they thought these folk were not speaking the truth Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herman 9,585 Posted January 18, 2021 Cheers for those. Pretty bleak outlook all round. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bill 1,788 Posted January 18, 2021 6 minutes ago, Herman said: Cheers for those. Pretty bleak outlook all round. What you have overlooked is the benefit to te UK in all of this (plants) The UK can simply build the same nursery infrastructure and produce these plants - after all the former is a few days work and the latter a few hours growth Set up in the Fens and you will also have an abundance of workers ..... assuming East Europeans are still allowed to move to the UK to work And by Spring 2023 or so Brexit types who visit garden centres will be able to buy all the bedding plants they want........ .......as long as they are quick 😂 Brexit - teaching thick people that their actions have consequences Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
paul moy 235 Posted January 18, 2021 Echo chamber at work again I see ......... 🙃 Remoaners proved wrong again as the UK went its own way with the vaccine and is at the forefront in the world: " Now, millions of Britons are being given the Oxford AstraZeneca vaccine (alongside the much more expensive Pfizer one). Yet the EU has still not approved it for use, and, in general, its vaccine strategy has been lumbering and over-bureaucratic compared with ours. Last spring, the Observer ran a story, based on a letter sent to them by various academics and lawyers attacking our Government's decision to go it alone, with the headline, 'Brexit means coronavirus vaccine will be slower to reach the UK'. In July, when the Health Secretary Matt Hancock announced definitively that the UK would be buying and regulating Covid vaccines outside the EU's system, the Guardian reflected the outrage of some Labour and Lib Dem MPs with the headline 'UK plan to shun EU vaccine scheme 'unforgiveable' say critics'. They now look ridiculous. Thanks to the astute purchasing policy of the UK's Vaccine Taskforce, headed by one of Britain's most successful investors in bio-technology, Kate Bingham, we have got many more doses per capita, and more quickly, than the citizens of the EU. And thanks to the extraordinary efforts of our own Medicines and Healthcare Products Regulatory Agency to streamline its processes but without taking a single shortcut, approval for the Pfizer vaccine came more quickly than it did from the EU medical regulator. (That would have been even more delayed, but for belated outrage by German politicians, since it was actually invented by German scientists.) As for the remark by the Belgian deputy prime minister, Petra De Sutter, that the UK is 'vaccinating people with vaccines that do not have the same standard as the ones we use', that untruth was just sour grapes. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-9158151/DOMINIC-LAWSON-Amazing-true-leading-world-fight-against-virus.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SwindonCanary 455 Posted January 18, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, keelansgrandad said: He lives in the Phillipines Cornwall as you do. and it''s the Philippines ! Edited January 18, 2021 by SwindonCanary Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
keelansgrandad 6,679 Posted January 18, 2021 18 minutes ago, SwindonCanary said: Cornwall as you do. and it''s the Philippines ! And it's has a SINGLE QUOTE😂😂😂😂 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bill 1,788 Posted January 18, 2021 22 minutes ago, keelansgrandad said: And it's has a SINGLE QUOTE😂😂😂😂 if he is anything to do with Swindo, I would expect his actual name to be Phillip P enis seen here Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SwindonCanary 455 Posted January 18, 2021 (edited) 34 minutes ago, Bill said: Phillip P enis it's the Philippines I've only visited it 3 times Edited January 18, 2021 by SwindonCanary Share this post Link to post Share on other sites