Surfer 1,547 Posted January 6, 2021 Oh dear Swindon. Did I just read that the DUP are upset about the new trading arrangements for Northern Ireland and want them suspended? I’m sure that’s nothing to do with Brexit is it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SwindonCanary 455 Posted January 6, 2021 Brexit: No risk to NI's place in UK, says Sammy Wilson - BBC News Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Surfer 1,547 Posted January 6, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, SwindonCanary said: Brexit: No risk to NI's place in UK, says Sammy Wilson - BBC News That was December, it is now January and reality has hit. Edited January 6, 2021 by Surfer Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SwindonCanary 455 Posted January 6, 2021 (edited) 5 hours ago, Surfer said: That was December, it is now January and reality has hit. Brexit: Arlene Foster sees 'gateway of opportunity' in UK-EU trade deal - BBC News 3 days ago Covid-19: Tories bow to the inevitable and back Boris Johnson’s new restrictions (irishtimes.com) 1hour ago reality has hit 😉 Edited January 6, 2021 by SwindonCanary Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Well b back 3,190 Posted January 6, 2021 Watch out there’s a thief about https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-55566526 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bill 1,788 Posted January 7, 2021 As I have pointed out elsewhere Rightys do not like democracy "Although it is a registered party, the Brexit party is structured as a company, with Farage and the party chair, Richard Tice, having near-total control. Those who have paid the party’s £25 joining fee become “registered supporters” rather than members, with no say over policy or other matters." https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/nov/12/nigel-farage-faces-backlash-from-betrayed-brexit-party-candidates so let's see if this latest incarnation is, as before, nothing more than a front for a money making scheme - set up to defraud the slow witted Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
horsefly 4,287 Posted January 7, 2021 I wonder if Nige will invite his best mate Trump over to add political kudos to his latest venture? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Well b back 3,190 Posted January 7, 2021 4 hours ago, horsefly said: I wonder if Nige will invite his best mate Trump over to add political kudos to his latest venture? I don’t follow him but it was being reported that last night he was hurriedly taking down his backing and support of what Trump was doing from Twitter. If they were your principals Nigel you were fully aware of what could happen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bill 1,788 Posted January 7, 2021 4 hours ago, horsefly said: I wonder if Nige will invite his best mate Trump over to add political kudos to his latest venture? Given the nature of the scam, I think he would be better advised by Bernie Madoff 😏 as to last night, it should have the one positive of ensuring Trump is brought to justice Twitter and Facebook should ensure that he remains blocked, and police chiefs etc should be strongly reminded who will be in power in less than a fortnights time and that their actions over that period will be judged when moving forward Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yellow Fever 3,747 Posted January 7, 2021 25 minutes ago, Well b back said: I don’t follow him but it was being reported that last night he was hurriedly taking down his backing and support of what Trump was doing from Twitter. If they were your principals Nigel you were fully aware of what could happen. Cut from the same cloth I'm afraid - s h i t stirrers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Haus 259 Posted January 7, 2021 Ugh, Missus being made redundant today because of Brexit. Her job is going to Germany. Someone tell me how this is supposed to be positive again ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
horsefly 4,287 Posted January 7, 2021 4 minutes ago, Haus said: Ugh, Missus being made redundant today because of Brexit. Her job is going to Germany. Someone tell me how this is supposed to be positive again ? Really sorry to hear that. I've yet to see anyone respond to the challenge to point out a single positive benefit of Brexit to an individual. When a Tory MP Brexiteer was asked on LBC last week to name one, he responded that the gain in sovereignty was not the sort of benefit that could be described in terms of a gain for an individual. So that was worth it then. Again sorry to hear of your wife's predicament. I wonder what the Brexiteers here would to say to her to explain the point and worth of her sacrifice. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SwindonCanary 455 Posted January 7, 2021 2 hours ago, horsefly said: Again sorry to hear of your wife's predicament. I wonder what the Brexiteers here would to say to her to explain the point and worth of her sacrifice. I too am sorry she's lost her job but Brexit is about losing some things and gaining loads Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Well b back 3,190 Posted January 7, 2021 Hopefully a gain won’t be lots of un filled vacancies on farms. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SwindonCanary 455 Posted January 7, 2021 (edited) In our first year outside of the EU, Britain drew a record amount of venture capital investment in tech - outweighing the rest of Europe combined. Hey Remoaners, where's that economic Armageddon you promised? leave EU Tweeted this. Edited January 7, 2021 by SwindonCanary Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Well b back 3,190 Posted January 7, 2021 Fisherman worried about their jobs, what next https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cornwall-55563678 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bill 1,788 Posted January 7, 2021 "Lorry drivers in Kent have been handed more than £32,000 in fines in the first week after the Brexit transition period ended, after some hauliers were caught entering the UK without the necessary new documentation and others tried to skip the queue. Meanwhile, UK retailers such as John Lewis and Fortnum & Mason have been forced to suspend shipping their products to the EU, while continental customers of other brands have reported being hit with additional post-Brexit charges." "Customers in Europe buying products ranging from furniture to pet food from UK companies are receiving unexpected bills for VAT and customs duty or finding household names have stopped shipping to the continent, as post-Brexit trading rules bite." "Northern Ireland is facing disruptions to its food supply because suppliers in Great Britain are unaware of the Brexit-related paperwork needed to send goods to the region, business leaders have said. Trucks are arriving at GB ports with incorrect or absent documentation that delays their passage across the Irish Sea, they told MPs on Wednesday." So within days we see that the claims of frictionless, and tariff free, trade were no more than the rest of the Brexit lies were. Blatant lies. UK firms will discover they are being priced out of the EU market, and EU hauliers will follow up with their stated position of avoiding driving to the UK. Decades of removing restrictions, costs and delays have been chucked overboard as the UK goes from an open country for trade to one that sees North Korea as it's role model trade wise. A backward and inward looking country that clings to some long forgotten dogma. And this is merely the beginning......... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sonyc 5,491 Posted January 7, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Bill said: So within days we see that the claims of frictionless, and tariff free, trade were no more than the rest of the Brexit lies were. Blatant lies. UK firms will discover they are being priced out of the EU market, and EU hauliers will follow up with their stated position of avoiding driving to the UK. Decades of removing restrictions, costs and delays have been chucked overboard as the UK goes from an open country for trade to one that sees North Korea as it's role model trade wise. A backward and inward looking country that clings to some long forgotten dogma. And this is merely the beginning...... Sadly, this is inevitable. And as you suggest, it's just the start. Brexit supporters believe in a kind of empire myth and not hard economic reality. For every such reality there will be casualties (just like Haus' wife). It's a sad affair. Lives changed. For the worse. This isn't even about the politics, of taking sides, just a stone cold reality. Edited January 7, 2021 by sonyc Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bill 1,788 Posted January 7, 2021 The trade lost by UK companies will not be regained - many of whom are small companies selling specialist UK goods What is already happening,a s explained by the FT, is "The agreement, secured on Christmas Eve and which came into force on January 1, will require an estimated 215m extra customs declarations every year." The biggest factor for many smaller UK companies is the range of “non-tariff barriers” that confronts them as a result of the UK becoming a so-called “third country” operating outside the EU’s common regulatory umbrella. Ms Loughran said that as a result of booking the business in the EU the company will pay more tax there and employ fewer people in the UK, having already cut its UK warehouse staff headcount by one-third. " So tax that previously was paid to the UK will now go to an EU country, just as the jobs will. And this is not the nonsense from some brexit liar, but the cold harsh reality as laid out by the Financial Times https://www.ft.com/content/fbca627a-3d08-413f-b7e1-226a95b09d68 For those wanting to know further what a complete sell out the 'deal' was, then read the article from the FT Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Surfer 1,547 Posted January 7, 2021 The correct answer was always stay in the single market, leave the political union. But no, our Brexit friends knew better and could never accept that we "remain shackled" to France and Germany and 20 other irrelevant scraps of territory. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BigFish 1,986 Posted January 7, 2021 8 minutes ago, Surfer said: The correct answer was always stay in the single market, leave the political union. But no, our Brexit friends knew better and could never accept that we "remain shackled" to France and Germany and 20 other irrelevant scraps of territory. Yep, already causing big problems to the UK's major retailers with European branches. Seems like the Brexwits forgot the rules of origin mean that tariffs apply when they move stock abroad. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bill 1,788 Posted January 7, 2021 There is, and was not, a political union What there was, was countries recognising that to ensure a process of better and easier trade, standardisation had to be agreed and adhered to across the board The wealthy saw that as maintaining costly levels if wages and safety - costly to them that is. So they portrayed those regulations as being 'political'. They never were that. What we are already seeing with less than a week gone, and trade at a seasonal low is disruption and extra cost. Problems that will only increase as the levels of trade pick up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
keelansgrandad 6,679 Posted January 7, 2021 But Swindon can salute Captain Pugwash every evening as the sun sets over the yard arm. Beggar jobs. At least they will be British unemployed. Its all about patriotism. And that doesn't lead to problems does it. Anyway, the EU was stolen from us. The difference in votes by the end of the four and a half years was reversed because they were all dead voters. And if they weren't, they are now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
A Load of Squit 5,128 Posted January 7, 2021 1 hour ago, SwindonCanary said: In our first year outside of the EU, Britain drew a record amount of venture capital investment in tech - outweighing the rest of Europe combined. Hey Remoaners, where's that economic Armageddon you promised? leave EU Tweeted this. Leave.EU decide not to leave the EU. 😀 https://www.irishtimes.com/business/technology/pro-brexit-campaign-leave-eu-relocates-to-waterford-1.4452308 Pro-Brexit campaign Leave.EU relocates to Waterford Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bill 1,788 Posted January 7, 2021 I did actually put that up a while back, as "Brexit campaign group Leave.eu has moved its internet registration to the Republic of Ireland in order to be able to keep its .eu suffix after the UK quit the European Union." Yet another of the 'elite' putting two fingers up to the thickos Rees-Mogg, Redwood, Lawson and numerous others who see the benefits of remaining in the EU for themselves, but tell the thickos they should put up with the downsides still, it does need reminding how the thick brexiteers have been taken for mugs...again Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SwindonCanary 455 Posted January 7, 2021 Boris has asked 250 business leaders if they want any EU's laws changed that would help them Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
keelansgrandad 6,679 Posted January 7, 2021 13 minutes ago, SwindonCanary said: Boris has asked 250 business leaders if they want any EU's laws changed that would help them Especially workers rights 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rock The Boat 1,325 Posted January 7, 2021 Brexit tech boom as UK attracts $15bn investment in 2020 7 January 2021 Share In its first year after formally leaving the European Union, the UK attracted more venture capital funding than the rest of Europe combined. The new figures, drawn from Dealroom research, show a record $15bn investment in British tech firms creating seven new “unicorns” worth more than a billion a piece. The firms deal in a diverse range of businesses including e-commerce, cloud communications, and green energy. This figure outweighs the investment seen across the rest of the continent combined, and leaves Britain with more unicorn firms than Germany, the Netherlands, and France put together. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bill 1,788 Posted January 7, 2021 8 minutes ago, keelansgrandad said: Especially workers rights mouse brain lying yet again - if they are EU laws then how come they apply, if the UK is supposedly an 'independent' country the truth is this halfwit is merely beating out some nonsense for a nonsense source, hoping it will somehow make brexit seem less of a total fck up for the UK economy than it is for those interested in the correct story 'Mr Johnson asked business groups and top executives to come up with ideas about how to change regulations in the UK to support future economic growth' https://www.ft.com/content/e2e5e8a9-f02d-4951-b175-06d25dcb23fc Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bill 1,788 Posted January 7, 2021 7 minutes ago, Rock The Boat said: Brexit tech boom as UK attracts $15bn investment in 2020 7 January 2021 Sharen its first year after formally leaving the European Union, the UK attracted more venture capital funding than the rest of Europe combined. The new figures, drawn from Dealroom research, show a record $15bn investment in British tech firms creating seven new “unicorns” worth more than a billion a piece. The firms del in a diverse range of businesses including e-commerce, cloud communications, and green energy. This figure outweighs the investment seen across the rest of the continent combined, and leaves Britain with more unicorn firms than Germany, the Netherlands, and France put together. whereas "The $15bn total compares with the previous record of $14.8bn in 2019." perhaps hand crank or mouse brain could explain why the increase in 2020 was almost negligible Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
