The Positive Brexit Thread

[Surfer 1,547]

And proud of it. Looking forward to the imminent end of the RWNJ lunacy here in the US, soon to be followed by a reset in British politics too towards a degree of sanity. 

[SwindonCanary 455]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBznMmWco7A&ab_channel=REPUPDATE

 

[A Load of Squit 5,162]

12 minutes ago, Jools said:

Boris first used the slogan at the end of June --- Faisal Islam on the 29th of September states Sleepy first used the slogan two months previously in July --- If you check a calendar you'll probably be surprised to see that June comes before July. 

That's the thing about asking a question in the first tweet of many, the answer appears in the subsequent tweets.

As the BBC's economics editor pointed out in a Twitter thread that everyone from Justin Trudeau to Keir Starmer has used this exact phrasing in very recent speeches and tweets.

Another epic fail from Jools.

[Jools 584]

7 minutes ago, A Load of Squit said:

That's the thing about asking a question in the first tweet of many, the answer appears in the subsequent tweets.

As the BBC's economics editor pointed out in a Twitter thread that everyone from Justin Trudeau to Keir Starmer has used this exact phrasing in very recent speeches and tweets.

Another epic fail from Jools.

Serfdom claims Boris should thank Sleepy for using a slogan that Boris used before Sleepy and somehow in your world that makes for an epic fail on my behalf?

You really are a pathetic nonentity.

Edited October 7, 2020 by Jools

[NFN FC 1,123]

But we've already established the Japanese had used it way before those two 

[How I Wrote Elastic Man 1,187]

2 hours ago, Jools said:

UK/EU border

I disagree, Broadstairs -- It's been obvious for nigh on five years that the EU would never give the UK a satisfactory deal.

Establishment Remainiacs are making a mountain out of a worm thread where delays at the UK/EU border are concerned and as you've stated yourself we export minimally to the EU -- In fact, only 0.7% of all UK businesses export goods to the EU:

 

• That’s only 2.8% of all employers – and yet they’re dominating the EU trade deal debate

A link will do rather than having to scroll past all that, thanks 

What are the lorry parks, customs officials and Kent passports for then?

Why did it take hours on end a few weeks back to  reach Dover when there were enhanced checks? And the same a few years back when French passport control had issues?

Is the traffic suddenly going to stop?

And what's the issue with 2.8% of employers exporting to the EU when the 0.12% of GDP fishing industry, or whatever the tiny figure is, is dominating the trade talks?

[PurpleCanary 5,558]

6 minutes ago, How I Wrote Elastic Man said:

A link will do rather than having to scroll past all that, thanks 

What are the lorry parks, customs officials and Kent passports for then?

Why did it take hours on end a few weeks back to  reach Dover when there were enhanced checks? And the same a few years back when French passport control had issues?

Is the traffic suddenly going to stop?

And what's the issue with 2.8% of employers exporting to the EU when the 0.12% of GDP fishing industry, or whatever the tiny figure is, is dominating the trade talks?

it is one of those uncontexted figures Brexiters love to use. The more relevant figures would be the number of workers employed by those companies that export to and import from the EU and for the number of workers employed in other companies whose continued existence is inextricably linked to that first set of companies.

[BigFish 1,986]

Basically what @Jools and Brexit Facts 4EU are telling us is when negotiating a trade deal with the EU, trade isn't important????????? It is such a small propotion of the economy that it is irrelevent. You have to wonder why they are making such a big song and dance about it?

[MooreMarriot 310]

"Exclusive: 99.3% of all UK businesses do NOT export to the EU"

 

 At the start of 2019 there were 5.82 million small businesses (with 0 to 49 employees), 99.3% of the total business. So you see where the gin sodden wrecks at Facts4EU got their number from. No surprise to learn my local village hairdresser or fish and chip shop and millions like them do not export to the EU . Meanwhile in the real world  , In 2019 UK exports to the EU were £300 billion (43% of all UK exports).

[SwindonCanary 455]

I don't mind where it comes from Boris has taken it on board and backed it with a speech. 

[Herman 9,759]

Personally I am tired of three word slogans. They are meaningless and only designed for people who can't be bothered with detail.

[Herman 9,759]

Strong and stable. Failure.

Brexit means brexit. Meant nothing. Failure.

Get brexit done. Well we left the EU but still no closer to getting it done fully. Partial success.

Hands face space. WTF?

What were the other doozies?

[SwindonCanary 455]

you obviously did not listen to his speech, that went with it. 

Edited October 7, 2020 by SwindonCanary

[NFN FC 1,123]

17 minutes ago, SwindonCanary said:

you obviously did not listen to his speech, that went with it. 

We all know BoJo is good for his word, right? 

[Jools 584]

1 hour ago, BigFish said:

Basically what @Jools and Brexit Facts 4EU are telling us is when negotiating a trade deal with the EU, trade isn't important????????? It is such a small propotion of the economy that it is irrelevent. You have to wonder why they are making such a big song and dance about it?

Well, small-fry, earlier today the WTO agreed that the UK will be able to join the Agreement on Government Procurement (GPA) as an independent Party from 1 January 2021,  which means British businesses will have guaranteed access to global public procurement contracts worth over £1.3 trillion a year.

£1.3 trillion per year, small-fry...

The argument regarding Brexit and the economy is all you Remainiacs ever had --- Surely the time has come for you to wind your necks in and look at the positives of our leaving the EU?

[SwindonCanary 455]

30 minutes ago, NFN FC said:

We all know BoJo is good for his word, right? 

you obviously did not listen to his speech, that went with it. 

[BigFish 1,986]

4 minutes ago, Jools said:

Well, small-fry, earlier today the WTO agreed that the UK will be able to join the Agreement on Government Procurement (GPA) as an independent Party from 1 January 2021,  which means British businesses will have guaranteed access to global public procurement contracts worth over £1.3 trillion a year.

£1.3 trillion per year, small-fry...

The argument regarding Brexit and the economy is all you Remainiacs ever had --- Surely the time has come for you to wind your necks in and look at the positives of our leaving the EU?

And what difference does this make? What is the value to the UK economy?

I don't expect you to answer, because you don't know.

All very good quoting the entire market size, a market the UK already had access to, because it gives you a big number to get excited about. Makes zero difference.

Just another epic Jools fail.

[BigFish 1,986]

1 hour ago, SwindonCanary said:

I don't mind where it comes from Boris has taken it on board and backed it with a speech. 

What he say, something about floating windmills?

[Jools 584]

2 minutes ago, BigFish said:

And what difference does this make? What is the value to the UK economy?

I don't expect you to answer, because you don't know.

All very good quoting the entire market size, a market the UK already had access to, because it gives you a big number to get excited about. Makes zero difference.

Just another epic Jools fail.

😮 Nay! It's a market the EU has mainly prohibited us from you cretinous pleb!

Christ alive, the same tripe for arguments from four years ago isn't making you look terribly smart, small-fry.

 

[BigFish 1,986]

4 minutes ago, Jools said:

😮 Nay! It's a market the EU has mainly prohibited us from you cretinous pleb!

Christ alive, the same tripe for arguments from four years ago isn't making you look terribly smart, small-fry.

Of course they haven't, this market has been available to the UK for 24 years!

[NFN FC 1,123]

22 minutes ago, SwindonCanary said:

you obviously did not listen to his speech, that went with it. 

Why is that obvious? I did listen to the speech, I just don't trust a word of it. 

[BigFish 1,986]

16 minutes ago, Jools said:

😮 Nay! It's a market the EU has mainly prohibited us from you cretinous pleb!

Christ alive, the same tripe for arguments from four years ago isn't making you look terribly smart, small-fry.

 

Read and weep @Jools, read and weep......https://www.wto.org/english/tratop_e/gproc_e/memobs_e.htm#parties.

Parties

Most parties have been bound by the Agreement since its entry into force. Some acceded to the Agreement at a later date, as shown below. The table also shows the date of entry into force of the revised GPA for each party.

Parties	Date of entry into force/accession
	GPA 1994	Revised GPA
Armenia	15 Sep 2011	6 June 2015
Australia	5 May 2019	5 May 2019
Canada	1 Jan 1996	6 Apr 2014
European Union with regard to its 27 member states and the United Kingdom:		6 Apr 2014
Austria, Belgium, Denmark, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Ireland, Italy, Luxemburg, the Netherlands, Portugal, Spain, Sweden and the United Kingdom	1 Jan 1996

 

 

 

Edited October 7, 2020 by BigFish

[Jools 584]

1 minute ago, BigFish said:

Of course they haven't, this market has been available to the UK for 24 years!

Nay, small-fry, the EU have laws/regs/rules that have prevented us from doing deals on trade in the world market.

You should know that, ffs.

[Jools 584]

2 minutes ago, BigFish said:

Read and weap @Jools, read and weap......https://www.wto.org/english/tratop_e/gproc_e/memobs_e.htm#parties.

Parties

Most parties have been bound by the Agreement since its entry into force. Some acceded to the Agreement at a later date, as shown below. The table also shows the date of entry into force of the revised GPA for each party.

Parties	Date of entry into force/accession
	GPA 1994	Revised GPA
Armenia	15 Sep 2011	6 June 2015
Australia	5 May 2019	5 May 2019
Canada	1 Jan 1996	6 Apr 2014
European Union with regard to its 27 member states and the United Kingdom:		6 Apr 2014
Austria, Belgium, Denmark, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Ireland, Italy, Luxemburg, the Netherlands, Portugal, Spain, Sweden and the United Kingdom	1 Jan 1996

 

 

 

 

Goodnight, small-fry.

[BigFish 1,986]

1 minute ago, Jools said:

Nay, small-fry, the EU have laws/regs/rules that have prevented us from doing deals on trade in the world market.

You should know that, ffs.

@Jools, admit it, you thought it was a big deal that the UK entered into an agreement that it was already signed up to and had been for 24 years. You thought this would worth £1.3 trillion when in fact it was worth zero

[Surfer 1,547]

Dang it Big Fish. I was just about to put that one in the "positive" column for Brexit.... 

... I guess we'll just have to wait a bit longer. Or rename this thread instead ? 

 

[Herman 9,759]

7 hours ago, BigFish said:

What he say, something about floating windmills?

A lady on the radio suggests that he has actually become Don Quixote. 

[SwindonCanary 455]

8 hours ago, NFN FC said:

Why is that obvious? I did listen to the speech, I just don't trust a word of it. 

BELIEVE !

[NFN FC 1,123]

7 minutes ago, SwindonCanary said:

BELIEVE !

Believe what exactly? 

[SwindonCanary 455]

He did not stand there and talk for nearly a hour to tell fibs. Believe in what he had to say.