Herman 9,717 Posted December 16, 2019 Fwar, fwar, wiff-waff, bwar, b b b bwaaaaarrrrr!!! (Ruffle hair, say something racist (a few more elderly votes.)) Oh Boris, he's such a card. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rock The Boat 1,326 Posted December 16, 2019 18 minutes ago, Jools said: Imagine Angela Rayner at the despatch box after a put-down by Boris - "Am I bovvered? Do I look bovvered?" 🤣 Hahahaha Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rock The Boat 1,326 Posted December 16, 2019 It's going to be such a fun five years ahead. Boris at the despatch box is going to wipe out which ever Labour clown wins the short straw. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Icecream Snow 761 Posted December 17, 2019 (edited) Trying to watch this is torture. If she's the heir apparent she comes across more like a club rep in Magaluf than a potential Prime Minister. Edited December 17, 2019 by Icecream Snow 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Icecream Snow 761 Posted December 17, 2019 (edited) [double post] Edited December 17, 2019 by Icecream Snow double post Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kick it off 1,948 Posted December 17, 2019 (edited) So Boris' first act as elected PM is to remove the protections on workers rights from the EU withdrawal bill. I'm sure the working class voters who turned their backs on Labour to put Boris in power are delighted that Boris is using their votes to strip them of their rights and future protections. It was all so difficult to predict as well, I mean who on Earth saw that coming... 😐 Like I said, the turkeys voted for Christmas again 🦃 Edited December 17, 2019 by kick it off Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herman 9,717 Posted December 17, 2019 A big part of me now thinks sod them. They deserve all they get. It will affect me a bit but I am reasonably insulated from oncoming harm. I now have more work than I ever had thanks to brexiters willingness to make it harder to trade with Europe, my sectors main competitors being the Netherlands and France.I am reasonably indispensible at work being the only one that can do my specific job (I won't tell them that it is easier than I make out😉). I also have a couple of potential routes out if things get too stupid and some assets and savings that can cushion any fall for a while. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herman 9,717 Posted December 17, 2019 ...and no deal is back on the table. I sure that'll please the dribblers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rock The Boat 1,326 Posted December 17, 2019 2 minutes ago, Herman said: ...and no deal is back on the table. I sure that'll please the dribblers. And so it should be Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SwindonCanary 455 Posted December 17, 2019 A master stroke from Boris Johnson. "No Deal is better than a bad deal". There is no need to talk for years over a deal, 364 days is quite enough. so all you saying it's going to take years are wrong again. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2019-50818134 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herman 9,717 Posted December 17, 2019 3 and half years and you haven't learned a thing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SwindonCanary 455 Posted December 17, 2019 It will be completed by the end of 2020. are you arguing that ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herman 9,717 Posted December 17, 2019 No. It will get done but the belief that we will still hold any cards is one of life's mysteries. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SwindonCanary 455 Posted December 17, 2019 We don't have all the cards but we have enough to get a deal done ! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hoola Han Solo 448 Posted December 17, 2019 19 minutes ago, SwindonCanary said: We don't have all the cards but we have enough to get a deal done ! Yippee, a s hite deal but you don’t care as you’re only a racist nutjob. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SwindonCanary 455 Posted December 17, 2019 (edited) Lost an argument and go back to name calling. We are leaving the EU ! 👍 Edited December 17, 2019 by SwindonCanary Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Van wink 2,994 Posted December 17, 2019 2 minutes ago, SwindonCanary said: Loose an argument and go back to name calling. We are leaving the EU ! 👍 Will you be doing your coundown to the end of January Swindon? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SwindonCanary 455 Posted December 17, 2019 Don't think so, it was just to annoy remainers, but that battle has been won. and I've got a smug smile on my face, as it shows the rest of the country feels the same. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PurpleCanary 5,554 Posted December 17, 2019 I think care needs to be taken with terminology when talking about the possibility of the UK still crashing out without a deal. As I understand it, provided Parliament passes the necessary legislation, then the UK will leave on January 31 2020 with a Withdrawal Deal, on the money, where the border is, and citizens' rights. What could still happened is that the transition period, currently scheduled to end on December 31 2020, does end then and without a post-Brexit trade deal having been negotiated. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herman 9,717 Posted December 17, 2019 28 minutes ago, SwindonCanary said: We don't have all the cards but we have enough to get a deal done ! With an arbitrary time limit Johnson will have to sign any deal the EU gives us or drive us off the same cliff we approached many times before. The proof will be in the details. Luckily a lot of people are not too bothered with details.🤣 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BigFish 1,986 Posted December 17, 2019 9 minutes ago, PurpleCanary said: I think care needs to be taken with terminology when talking about the possibility of the UK still crashing out without a deal. As I understand it, provided Parliament passes the necessary legislation, then the UK will leave on January 31 2020 with a Withdrawal Deal, on the money, where the border is, and citizens' rights. What could still happened is that the transition period, currently scheduled to end on December 31 2020, does end then and without a post-Brexit trade deal having been negotiated. My understanding too, @PurpleCanary. Johnson is going to work tirelessly to ensure that on the 1st February the EU gets everything they asked for in a WA, including the NI/GB border he said no British PM could agree too. So in 2020 the UK has no cards to play. It will be good to see what the EU's negotiating mandate is, because that is the deal he will agree. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BigFish 1,986 Posted December 17, 2019 1 minute ago, SHRIMPER said: Old enough and with enough life experience to spot a FVCKWIT and a LIAR when I see one. You fit both categories to a T. Not hard, in this case Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SwindonCanary 455 Posted December 17, 2019 12 minutes ago, SHRIMPER said: Old enough and with enough life experience to spot a FVCKWIT and a LIAR when I see one. You fit both categories to a T. You don't come across as being old enough ! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Creative Midfielder 1,985 Posted December 17, 2019 15 hours ago, kick it off said: Dan Jarvis would be a very sensible choice to bridge the divide - Northern seat, mayor of Sheffield, Nottingham born, former military man and very competent and coherent. Credible and electable. Very understated manner but I think that would sit well with the Northern voters who don't like all the circus antics of parliament. Clive Lewis, Rayner, Lisa Nandy or Keir Starmer would also be solid choices. Jess Phillips would be a shot in the dark. She's more of a loose cannon - might work, equally might just explode in their face. I like her but not sure how she comes across to the electorate en masse. Long-Bailey would be an horrific choice. Absolutely the worst choice they could make. It'll be Long-Bailey then no doubt For me Starmer or Cooper are the only two that could be seriously considered as potential leaders although Purple may well be right that they will go for the younger generation, even after seeing how well that worked out for the Lib Dems! If they do go for one of the youngsters they really are fishing in a talentless pool - Dan Jarvis looked to have the makings but seems to have wanted to become invisible for the last three years and succeeded pretty well, Long-Bailey as you rightly say would be an incredible and horrific choice, so....... If they had one iota of commonsense they would have tried (long ago) to persuade Ed Balls to come back, although I can't imagine that he'd be interested even if they did. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ricardo 7,349 Posted December 17, 2019 3 minutes ago, Creative Midfielder said: If they had one iota of commonsense Therein lies the problem. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Creative Midfielder 1,985 Posted December 17, 2019 5 minutes ago, ricardo said: Therein lies the problem. Can't argue with you there 😀 Still for both of us I assume it's a purely academic issue, bit like speculating who the next Ipswich manager might be! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites