kick it off 1,927 Posted October 29, 2019 Just now, FenwayFrank said: It’s not just their own future though, it’s a no from me personally On what basis? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Van wink 2,994 Posted October 29, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, ricardo said: 😀 Soubry just said MP's don't want any election After voting 438-20 in favour Yeh thats remoaner logic at its best, definately a democratic deficit Edited October 29, 2019 by Van wink Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mello Yello 2,265 Posted October 29, 2019 1 minute ago, Van wink said: Yeh thats remoaner logic at its best She'll be gone 12th of December..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ricardo 7,239 Posted October 29, 2019 1 minute ago, Van wink said: Yeh thats remoaner logic at its best Sour grapes as the second referendum drifts into irrelevance. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Van wink 2,994 Posted October 29, 2019 1 minute ago, ricardo said: Sour grapes as the second referendum drifts into irrelevance. presumably she'll be voting labour Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herman 9,585 Posted October 29, 2019 4 minutes ago, FenwayFrank said: It’s not just their own future though, it’s a no from me personally In that logic why should people over 80 or so get to vote? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Van wink 2,994 Posted October 29, 2019 2 minutes ago, Mello Yello said: She'll be gone 12th of December..... Ha ha Len raises his head, been missing you Len, did you forget your log in? 😀 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mello Yello 2,265 Posted October 29, 2019 I'm Spartabillicus!....... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Van wink 2,994 Posted October 29, 2019 Just now, Herman said: In that logic why should people over 80 or so get to vote? They shouldn't, they should be kidnapped on their way to the polling station and put on the carousel Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ricardo 7,239 Posted October 29, 2019 1 minute ago, Van wink said: Ha ha Len raises his head, been missing you Len, did you forget your log in? 😀 I thought I was Len tonight!🤔 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FenwayFrank 2,425 Posted October 29, 2019 2 minutes ago, kick it off said: On what basis? I understand that there are some 16 year olds more intelligent than I was at that age, but how much are they really aware of what’s going on in the world and the country ? Will they think about what could happen to interest rates? The economy ? All you want at that age , and I know I’m generalising, is some money to go out and have a laugh with your mates. Those that are thinking about university will think it’s great that Jeremy is telling them they won’t have to pay for it without thinking about the consequences. Too many just aren’t mature enough in my opinion, and yes, I know there are plenty of immature adults 😁 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Van wink 2,994 Posted October 29, 2019 Just now, Mello Yello said: I'm Spartabillicus!....... Really!!!!!!! I shall leave others to decide! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Van wink 2,994 Posted October 29, 2019 Just now, ricardo said: I thought I was Len tonight!🤔 You're not Len, you're "In Discrace" for the underwear revelations! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rock The Boat 1,290 Posted October 29, 2019 16 minutes ago, kick it off said: I think 16 and 17 year old young adults have every right to determine their future. As do 14 and 15 year olds. You giving them the vote? How about 12 and 13 year olds? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ricardo 7,239 Posted October 29, 2019 Just now, Van wink said: You're not Len, you're "In Discrace" for the underwear revelations! 😳 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ricardo 7,239 Posted October 29, 2019 Just now, Rock The Boat said: As do 14 and 15 year olds. You giving them the vote? How about 12 and 13 year olds? votes for the unborn👍 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kick it off 1,927 Posted October 29, 2019 (edited) 5 minutes ago, FenwayFrank said: I understand that there are some 16 year olds more intelligent than I was at that age, but how much are they really aware of what’s going on in the world and the country ? A hell of a lot more these days with climate change and Brexit dominating the headlines perpetually for several years. I was in the audience for Question Time aged 16. Also - not being funny, there's a huge number of adults who haven't got a scooby about anything going on in the world. To say that a 16 year old is any less well equipped than a 20 or 40 or 60 year old moron on the basis of nothing more than sheer numerical age is suspect in the extreme and entirely inaccurate Will they think about what could happen to interest rates? The economy ? All you want at that age , and I know I’m generalising, is some money to go out and have a laugh with your mates. That's incredibly condescending and embarrassingly out of touch. Those that are thinking about university will think it’s great that Jeremy is telling them they won’t have to pay for it without thinking about the consequences. Too many just aren’t mature enough in my opinion, and yes, I know there are plenty of immature adults 😁 Again, condescending and out of touch. We have a shocking turn out rate at the polls and 3.5 years on, I know adults who still don't understand what Brexit is or what the EU is. Engaging people in the political process at a younger age, is one of a host of measures that need to be brought in to give us some semblance of actual democracy. It should be mandatory to turn up to the polls unless there is an exemptionable reason not to. You don't have to vote, spoil the ballot if you like, but you should have to turn up. Edited October 29, 2019 by kick it off Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FenwayFrank 2,425 Posted October 29, 2019 Sperm votes ! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rock The Boat 1,290 Posted October 29, 2019 I hope there will be a consultation in the next Parliamentary session about voting ages, and I hope the conclusion is that the age be raised back to twenty-one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kick it off 1,927 Posted October 29, 2019 2 minutes ago, FenwayFrank said: Sperm votes ! Glad you've demonstrated why you're SOOOO much more mature and worthy of a vote than a 16 year old. You can't even have a sensible debate, you go to some ridiculous tropes that haven't been true for 20+ years and then descend into immature nonsense. Compelling argument as to why 16 year olds are too immature to vote. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Van wink 2,994 Posted October 29, 2019 4 minutes ago, FenwayFrank said: Sperm votes ! Why not ovum! All you bigots are the same! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FenwayFrank 2,425 Posted October 29, 2019 Wow, stop being so tetchy, it doesn’t actually hurt to smile you know Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kick it off 1,927 Posted October 29, 2019 Just now, FenwayFrank said: Wow, stop being so tetchy, it doesn’t actually hurt to smile you know Say something funny then instead of that childish crap! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Van wink 2,994 Posted October 29, 2019 Just now, FenwayFrank said: Wow, stop being so tetchy, it doesn’t actually hurt to smile you know Sperm always seem to have a smile on their face Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rock The Boat 1,290 Posted October 29, 2019 1 minute ago, kick it off said: Glad you've demonstrated why you're SOOOO much more mature and worthy of a vote than a 16 year old. You can't even have a sensible debate, you go to some ridiculous tropes that haven't been true for 20+ years and then descend into immature nonsense. Compelling argument as to why 16 year olds are too immature to vote. Sixteen year old kids would have been a mighty eleven years old at the beginning of a Parliamentary session. As if they have any idea, for goodness sake Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mello Yello 2,265 Posted October 29, 2019 Someone's hurtin'........aww.......they don't wanna GE......WAAAH!...... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mello Yello 2,265 Posted October 29, 2019 1 minute ago, Van wink said: Sperm always seem to have a smile on their face Tadpoles in brine.....that's all they is...... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kick it off 1,927 Posted October 29, 2019 1 minute ago, Mello Yello said: Someone's hurtin'........aww.......they don't wanna GE......WAAAH!...... Who is that aimed at? Weird in the extreme Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FenwayFrank 2,425 Posted October 29, 2019 2 minutes ago, kick it off said: Say something funny then instead of that childish crap! It’s starting to appear that you’re a good example of why everything is so divisive, you don’t want to discuss anything, you just want to tell everyone you’re right and they’re wrong. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites