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So the UK, the most lucrative market in Europe and representing 17% of the GDP of the 'Eu bloc' is going to be given a poor deal=unbelievable 

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23 minutes ago, SwindonCanary said:

So the UK, the most lucrative market in Europe and representing 17% of the GDP of the 'Eu bloc' is going to be given a poor deal. 

Precisely, well done. Now can you figure out why we are going to get a worse deal than the one we have?? 

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36 minutes ago, SwindonCanary said:

So the UK, the most lucrative market in Europe and representing 17% of the GDP of the 'Eu bloc' is going to be given a poor deal=unbelievable 

You voted for this mess Swindo 👍🏻
Own it. 

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3 minutes ago, Hoola Han Solo said:

Explain to us how we “hold all the cards !”, Swindon. 

most lucrative market in Europe and representing 17% of their GDP

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people who can't spell Swindon

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Good to hear that Johnson is rowing back on some of his daft immigration policies. 

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51 minutes ago, Hoola Han Solo said:

Explain to us how we “hold all the cards !”, Swindon. 

Bearing in mind the above and with the UK out performing the Euro zone, whilst the IMF is now saying this will continue to do so for at least the next two years. I would argue that whilst maybe not holding all the cards the UK certainly has the substantially hand, especially when considered that there are going to be other trade negotiations going on in parallel.

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people who can't spell Swindon

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2 hours ago, SwindonCanary said:

Serious Question, You took a long time doing that, was it worth it ? Even though you can't spell. How old are you ?

It took all of ten seconds when you know how to use a computor you FVCKWIT 🎼SWINDO🎶 SWINDO🎶 SWINDO🎶

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How old are you ? I'm guessing it's about 9 or 10

YOU ALWAYS SEEM TO DISAPPEAR WHEN I ASK, I WONDER WHY 😉

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More good economic news for us to celebrate today, nice to see the FT reporting it positively 😉



"UK manufacturers have become much more optimistic about the outlook for business since October, according to a survey published on Wednesday that could be an early sign of a post-election rebound in economic growth. The turnround in sentiment was the biggest on record in the CBI’s quarterly industrial trends survey, which has been published since 1958. The share of manufacturers expecting business to improve is 23 per cent larger than the share expecting conditions to worsen — the highest since 2014; whereas in October, doom-mongers outnumbered optimists by 44 per cent."

 

How does this fit with your economic analysis BF?

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13 minutes ago, Van wink said:

More good economic news for us to celebrate today, nice to see the FT reporting it positively 😉



"UK manufacturers have become much more optimistic about the outlook for business since October, according to a survey published on Wednesday that could be an early sign of a post-election rebound in economic growth. The turnround in sentiment was the biggest on record in the CBI’s quarterly industrial trends survey, which has been published since 1958. The share of manufacturers expecting business to improve is 23 per cent larger than the share expecting conditions to worsen — the highest since 2014; whereas in October, doom-mongers outnumbered optimists by 44 per cent."

 

How does this fit with your economic analysis BF?

Good to see that under the new editor the FT has kept to the policy of the previous editors of unbiased and - crucially - realistic journalism, even if - or perhaps especially if - that means pessimistic assessments of government wishful thinking:

Chancellor Sajid Javid has declared his ambition to restore Britain’s economy to its postwar glory days. He told the Financial Times in an interview last week that he wanted to boost economic growth rates to around 2.7 to 2.8 per cent — the level they averaged from 1945 up to the global financial crisis.

 It is a startling goal. UK gross domestic product has grown faster than 2.5 per cent in just one year since the 2008 crisis. Economists’ average forecast is for GDP growth of only 1.1 per cent in 2020.

Mr Javid will only be able to achieve his GDP goal if he engineers a transformation in the UK’s dismal performance on productivity growth — raising it from near zero now to its pre-crisis average of above 2 per cent per year.

The overarching issue is that no policy Mr Javid can devise is likely to help the UK overcome the challenge on productivity that is defeating almost every major economy in the world.

 

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40 minutes ago, Van wink said:

More good economic news for us to celebrate today, nice to see the FT reporting it positively 😉



"UK manufacturers have become much more optimistic about the outlook for business since October, according to a survey published on Wednesday that could be an early sign of a post-election rebound in economic growth. The turnround in sentiment was the biggest on record in the CBI’s quarterly industrial trends survey, which has been published since 1958. The share of manufacturers expecting business to improve is 23 per cent larger than the share expecting conditions to worsen — the highest since 2014; whereas in October, doom-mongers outnumbered optimists by 44 per cent."

 

How does this fit with your economic analysis BF?

It's not news, it's just some forecasts. When it happens it'll be news.

 

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Jaguar announced 500 job losses at roughly the same time as Winky guffed out his news. 

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9 minutes ago, TCCANARY said:

It's not news, it's just some forecasts. When it happens it'll be news.

 

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Just now, Herman said:

Jaguar announced 500 job losses at roughly the same time as Winky guffed out his news. 

Guffed😀

Dont turn into Billy ffs.

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1 minute ago, Herman said:

Jaguar announced 500 job losses at roughly the same time as Winky guffed out his news. 

They've already said it's nothing to do with Brexit 

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37 minutes ago, PurpleCanary said:

Good to see that under the new editor the FT has kept to the policy of the previous editors of unbiased and - crucially - realistic journalism, even if - or perhaps especially if - that means pessimistic assessments of government wishful thinking:

Chancellor Sajid Javid has declared his ambition to restore Britain’s economy to its postwar glory days. He told the Financial Times in an interview last week that he wanted to boost economic growth rates to around 2.7 to 2.8 per cent — the level they averaged from 1945 up to the global financial crisis.

 

 It is a startling goal. UK gross domestic product has grown faster than 2.5 per cent in just one year since the 2008 crisis. Economists’ average forecast is for GDP growth of only 1.1 per cent in 2020.

 

Mr Javid will only be able to achieve his GDP goal if he engineers a transformation in the UK’s dismal performance on productivity growth — raising it from near zero now to its pre-crisis average of above 2 per cent per year.

 

The overarching issue is that no policy Mr Javid can devise is likely to help the UK overcome the challenge on productivity that is defeating almost every major economy in the world.

 

 

I like the use of the term “doom-mongers” 

Just when I thought the remainers on here were easing away from the blinkered doom-mongering it appears that for many its more of a personality disorder and no good news is good news.

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1 minute ago, Herman said:

Yeah, yeah, yeah, nothing to do with Brexit.

They said it's the global car market, they are reducing 3 shifts to 2 shifts. They also have a good redundency package, so hope they will all be votenteers !

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Staying in the same industry. Which is the only country in the EU that the Japanese car makers are reducing staff levels? 

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15 minutes ago, Van wink said:

I like the use of the term “doom-mongers” 

Just when I thought the remainers on here were easing away from the blinkered doom-mongering it appears that for many its more of a personality disorder and no good news is good news.

A lot of politically inspired point scoring nonsense on here. Of course there is rebound in optimism as the prospect of no-deal has moved away. It may well be back though!

Fuller quote from CBi below (BBC) which may give more more food for thought - those that can anyway! 

 

Manufacturers reported a surge in optimism in the three months to January, marking the largest upward swing in sentiment in a single quarter on record, according to the latest CBI quarterly industrial trends survey.

The survey of 300 manufacturing firms reported that business optimism improved significantly in the quarter to January, at the fastest pace since April 2014.

Meanwhile, export sentiment continued to fall, but was noticeably less gloomy compared to last quarter.

“Manufacturers are entering the new year with a spring in their step," said Anna Leach, CBI deputy chief economist.

"Firms are now planning to invest more in plants and machinery, which will ultimately help increase capacity and output.

“However, this boost to sentiment belies poor trading conditions over the past quarter, with output and orders still declining.

"If we are to build on this rebound in optimism among UK manufacturers, it is crucial for the UK and EU to establish a trade deal that supports growth in this sector.”

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24 minutes ago, SwindonCanary said:

They said it's the global car market, they are reducing 3 shifts to 2 shifts. They also have a good redundency package, so hope they will all be votenteers !

There was a large site I used to visit occasionally in Preston.

It was shut eventually - housing now - but for a very long while it found a second life as a near future dystopian film set (some well known flicks if I recall - a few Dr Who's as well))  -  I was wondering if that could be a good future use of some of these car plants as it has nothing to do with Brexit. Swindon would be quite convenient for the industry. Jobs as extras too!

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14 minutes ago, Yellow Fever said:

A lot of politically inspired point scoring nonsense on here. Of course there is rebound in optimism as the prospect of no-deal has moved away. It may well be back though!

Fuller quote from CBi below (BBC) which may give more more food for thought - those that can anyway! 

 

Manufacturers reported a surge in optimism in the three months to January, marking the largest upward swing in sentiment in a single quarter on record, according to the latest CBI quarterly industrial trends survey.

The survey of 300 manufacturing firms reported that business optimism improved significantly in the quarter to January, at the fastest pace since April 2014.

Meanwhile, export sentiment continued to fall, but was noticeably less gloomy compared to last quarter.

“Manufacturers are entering the new year with a spring in their step," said Anna Leach, CBI deputy chief economist.

"Firms are now planning to invest more in plants and machinery, which will ultimately help increase capacity and output.

“However, this boost to sentiment belies poor trading conditions over the past quarter, with output and orders still declining.

"If we are to build on this rebound in optimism among UK manufacturers, it is crucial for the UK and EU to establish a trade deal that supports growth in this sector.”

By definition any surveys being released now, including any that show some very cautious optimism based on hopes of a business-friendly Brexit, were carried out before Friday's interview with Javid in which he promised - or threatened, depending on your level of economic insanity/sanity - the hardest of hard Brexits!

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13 minutes ago, Yellow Fever said:

There was a large site I used to visit occasionally in Preston.

It was shut eventually - housing now - but for a very long while it found a second life as a near future dystopian film set (some well known flicks if I recall - a few Dr Who's as well))  -  I was wondering if that could be a good future use of some of these car plants as it has nothing to do with Brexit. Swindon would be quite convenient for the industry. Jobs as extras too!

It's not shutting they are just reducing the shifts 

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22 minutes ago, Yellow Fever said:

There was a large site I used to visit occasionally in Preston.

It was shut eventually - housing now - but for a very long while it found a second life as a near future dystopian film set (some well known flicks if I recall - a few Dr Who's as well))  -  I was wondering if that could be a good future use of some of these car plants as it has nothing to do with Brexit. Swindon would be quite convenient for the industry. Jobs as extras too!

He could do both the lead roles in a remake of 'Dumb & Dumber'.

 

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17 minutes ago, Hoola Han Solo said:

“It’s nothing to do with Brexit”

Brexiteers:

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THAT'S WHAT THEY ARE SAYING, WHY WOULD THEY NOT TELL THE TRUTH ?

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