Herman 9,754 Posted February 7, 2020 Not all Iwan, but a large proportion of them did. Immigration was the largest element of Brexit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Iwans Big Toe 312 Posted February 7, 2020 4 minutes ago, Herman said: Not all Iwan, but a large proportion of them did. Immigration was the largest element of Brexit. So why weren't the ethnic minorities supporting the pro-remain rallies? All I see is a group of entitled, middle class, white, champagne socialists. And I've looked through a lot of pro-remain videos and pictures. It's almost like they aren't representative of the whole country. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SwindonCanary 455 Posted February 7, 2020 2 hours ago, BigFish said: I believe we were told there would be hundreds of free trade deals ready to go as soon as we left the EU. We have been out a week now, are there any? No, of course not, it was just more leaver lies. More relevent are we in active trade negotiations with anyone at the moment. No again. So no trade deals and no trade negotiations, come on Leavers pull your fingers out we are waiting for anything you said was possible to happen, or give us a date for when it will happen. What are you waiting for? I can't remember being told that ! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herman 9,754 Posted February 7, 2020 I'm not sure what that has to do with anything. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Iwans Big Toe 312 Posted February 7, 2020 (edited) 28 minutes ago, Herman said: I'm not sure what that has to do with anything. I know you don't see what it has to do with anything, and that's the problem. For all of far left's talk of inclusion they don't seem to be very inclusive. Far left politics is centered on stating that everyone has to think the same way they do, and if you don't you're a bigot. It's irony at Orwellian levels. Edited February 7, 2020 by Iwans Big Toe 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rock The Boat 1,329 Posted February 8, 2020 2 hours ago, Iwans Big Toe said: I know you don't see what it has to do with anything, and that's the problem. For all of far left's talk of inclusion they don't seem to be very inclusive. Far left politics is centered on stating that everyone has to think the same way they do, and if you don't you're a bigot. It's irony at Orwellian levels. Middle class Champagne Socialists always talk about ethnic minorities but they don't actually know any. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herman 9,754 Posted February 8, 2020 8 hours ago, Iwans Big Toe said: I know you don't see what it has to do with anything, and that's the problem. For all of far left's talk of inclusion they don't seem to be very inclusive. Far left politics is centered on stating that everyone has to think the same way they do, and if you don't you're a bigot. It's irony at Orwellian levels. So what you are saying is that because the majority of remain marchers were white and European, left, Liberal and Conservative, therefore means that immigration didn't play a massive part in Brexit. I'm sorry but you are simply indulging in delusional whataboutery. Look at Farage's campaigns, look at vote Leave's campaigning, read the people that have liked your post and then come back and say that. Maybe you are simply uncomfortable with the facts, that's fair enough, but you only have to look and read the opinions of the people on the same side as you to realise something stinks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herman 9,754 Posted February 8, 2020 6 hours ago, Rock The Boat said: Middle class Champagne Socialists always talk about ethnic minorities but they don't actually know any. Old age racists moan about Muslims and blacks but haven't actually met any. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hoola Han Solo 448 Posted February 8, 2020 6 hours ago, Rock The Boat said: Middle class Champagne Socialists always talk about ethnic minorities but they don't actually know any. I assume you know loads of ethnic minorities then? (Although they probably scare you, what with them not resembling a white old racist like you) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herman 9,754 Posted February 8, 2020 https://www.thepoke.co.uk/2020/02/07/phone-in-caller-who-wants-to-bring-back-hanging-destroys-himself-with-his-own-words-and-its-brilliant/ 🤣 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Creative Midfielder 1,996 Posted February 8, 2020 9 hours ago, Iwans Big Toe said: I know you don't see what it has to do with anything, and that's the problem. For all of far left's talk of inclusion they don't seem to be very inclusive. Far left politics is centered on stating that everyone has to think the same way they do, and if you don't you're a bigot. It's irony at Orwellian levels. So you are equating all, or at least the active, remain supporters with being 'far left' in their politics??? That, if I may say so, is beyond ridiculous. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SwindonCanary 455 Posted February 8, 2020 'Theresa May' who was willing to take a dive at the first chance ! Now Barnier is negotiating against someone who is actually prepared to say 'NO' & not lay down to each & every demand, it is a different proposition. With a comfortable majority, Boris could now leave with a No Deal. He is in the better position to get a good deal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herman 9,754 Posted February 8, 2020 36 minutes ago, Creative Midfielder said: So you are equating all, or at least the active, remain supporters with being 'far left' in their politics??? That, if I may say so, is beyond ridiculous. I think he is trying to make a "point". He won't accept that the vast majority of brexiters and Trumpists are right wing so he is trying to equate all remainers as far left even though they come from the whole spectrum of political thought. Having been on a few of the marches I can guarantee that all the political parties were there. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Creative Midfielder 1,996 Posted February 8, 2020 16 minutes ago, Herman said: I think he is trying to make a "point". He won't accept that the vast majority of brexiters and Trumpists are right wing so he is trying to equate all remainers as far left even though they come from the whole spectrum of political thought. Having been on a few of the marches I can guarantee that all the political parties were there. Yes indeed, you would have thought it pretty obvious from the fact that for the last four years both the Tory and Labour parties have been completely split on Brexit that the Brexit divide has never been along simplistic 'left\right' generalisations, and then of course there are the various other political parties which Iwan appears to be unaware of....... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BigFish 1,986 Posted February 8, 2020 12 hours ago, SwindonCanary said: I can't remember being told that ! Brexit boost: 21 countries queuing up for post-Brexit trade deal, declares Liam Fox Boris Johnson: Countries ‘queuing up’ for post-Brexit trade deals I suggest you haven't been paying attention So why haven't trade talks started, and when will they? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SwindonCanary 455 Posted February 8, 2020 They will start next month (who's not paying attention ?) MACRON saying "The UK must give full access to French fishing boats and must align forever with EU rules" I feel he's just acting tough because he has so many problems at home and an election coming up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BigFish 1,986 Posted February 8, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, SwindonCanary said: They will start next month (who's not paying attention ?) MACRON saying "The UK must give full access to French fishing boats and must align forever with EU rules" I feel he's just acting tough because he has so many problems at home and an election coming up. Not exactly rushing are they? Btw inventing quotes like you did above doesn't fool anyone and could be construed as a lie. Edited February 8, 2020 by BigFish Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SwindonCanary 455 Posted February 8, 2020 (edited) 9 minutes ago, BigFish said: Not exactly rushing are they? Btw inventing quotes like you did above doesn't fool anyone and could be construed as a lie. It's not inventing quotes it's what he said. reported everywhere Edited February 8, 2020 by SwindonCanary Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rock The Boat 1,329 Posted February 8, 2020 5 hours ago, Hoola Han Solo said: I assume you know loads of ethnic minorities then? (Although they probably scare you, what with them not resembling a white old racist like you) So you have lots of ethnic friends? Lol, I'd like to see you prove it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SwindonCanary 455 Posted February 8, 2020 It's funny because I've got a lot of ethnic friends, yet I'm called racist all the time on here ! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hoola Han Solo 448 Posted February 8, 2020 4 minutes ago, Rock The Boat said: So you have lots of ethnic friends? Lol, I'd like to see you prove it Go for a walk mate, you might let go of all this bitterness you possess 😀👍🏻 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BigFish 1,986 Posted February 8, 2020 14 hours ago, Iwans Big Toe said: So why weren't the ethnic minorities supporting the pro-remain rallies? All I see is a group of entitled, middle class, white, champagne socialists. And I've looked through a lot of pro-remain videos and pictures. It's almost like they aren't representative of the whole country. Immigrants in general, and the UK's BAME communities in particular, tend not to get involved in visible protests, except in extremis, because of the negative and sometimes violent response that follows. It is not just what are now former remainers, lefty or not, who thought there were large numbers who would vote Leave for xenophobic and racist reasons, Farage and Leave.EU did as well. That is why they deployed a number of racist tropes and scare stories leading up to the referendum. Demographic statistics show that Leave areas tend to be the Tory English Shires as well as poorer areas, with less education and older populations. They tend to have below average imigration as well, certainly BAME immigration anyway. Areas with higher immigration, that are multi-racial, tended to vote remain. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SwindonCanary 455 Posted February 8, 2020 (edited) Well you keep calling me it, yet I can prove it, just look on my Facebook page Edited February 8, 2020 by SwindonCanary Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BigFish 1,986 Posted February 8, 2020 10 minutes ago, SwindonCanary said: It's not inventing quotes it's what he said. reported everywhere Liar - come up with one source that uses that quote from Macron. You made it up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SwindonCanary 455 Posted February 8, 2020 3 minutes ago, BigFish said: Liar - come up with one source that uses that quote from Macron. You made it up. Just copy the quote and google it ! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BigFish 1,986 Posted February 8, 2020 1 minute ago, SwindonCanary said: Just copy the quote and google it ! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hoola Han Solo 448 Posted February 8, 2020 More lies from Swindo 🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️ 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hoola Han Solo 448 Posted February 8, 2020 11 minutes ago, SwindonCanary said: Well you keep calling me it, yet I can prove it, just look on my Facebook page Yeah but you’ve probably made these people up, just like you did your ‘girlfriend’ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BigFish 1,986 Posted February 8, 2020 1 minute ago, Hoola Han Solo said: More lies from Swindo 🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️ I don't think he can stop himself Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hoola Han Solo 448 Posted February 8, 2020 All these lies just to cover up the fact that he voted Leave purely for Little Englander bigot reasons 🤦🏻♂️ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites