A Load of Squit 5,160 Posted February 2, 2020 1 minute ago, SwindonCanary said: You are just being lazy ! You have a history of lying, you should be able to prove the stuff you post otherwise we'll have to assume you're reverting to type. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SwindonCanary 455 Posted February 2, 2020 (edited) do you not remember where our butter came from ? https://www.jstor.org/stable/2599063?seq=1 Edited February 2, 2020 by SwindonCanary Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
paul moy 235 Posted February 2, 2020 3 hours ago, Herman said: "After tomorrow, Brexiters will use lack of sudden adverse consequences as validation... ...while not telling you this is only because of very transition arrangements they opposed as long as possible Just watch. Truth is, transition arrangements saved Brexiters from themselves." David Allen Green 30th January 2020. "One day in and so far: No food riots. No medicine shortages. No gridlocked motorways. No migrant camps in Kent. No collapse in house prices. No emergency tax rises. No world war. Weren't we told that "It's not Project Fear, it's Project Reality"?" Daniel Hannan ex-MEP 1st February 2020. We should never have agreed to a transition. We've had years to sort out a trade deal but May agreed to stick to EU negotiation tactics as she was a closet remoaner. I said from the outset we should have left and then negotiated the TD from a strong position but our strong hand was shown cards up to the EU by the traitors. Now the boot is on the other foot and I'm pretty certain Boris is determined to go to WTO unless the EU drop their demands for fishing rights etc. which would never be in any normal trade deal. Most voters want WTO anyway rather than give in to EU blackmail and extortion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
How I Wrote Elastic Man 1,186 Posted February 2, 2020 2 minutes ago, SwindonCanary said: do you not remember where our butter came from ? Cows? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SwindonCanary 455 Posted February 2, 2020 Just now, How I Wrote Elastic Man said: Cows? https://www.jstor.org/stable/2599063?seq=1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
How I Wrote Elastic Man 1,186 Posted February 2, 2020 24 minutes ago, SwindonCanary said: https://www.jstor.org/stable/2599063?seq=1 Sure, we imported butter from NZ, but it wasn´t our only source, and I doubt we got "most" of our butter from there (Please provide stats if I´m wrong) I would think it in our best interests to maintain good trading relations with the EU with respect to agriculture, whilst we develop new deals with other counties Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Icecream Snow 761 Posted February 2, 2020 3 hours ago, paul moy said: It has to be on equal terms or it's WTO and much pain for the EU. Whoooosh Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
paul moy 235 Posted February 2, 2020 (edited) 8 minutes ago, How I Wrote Elastic Man said: Sure, we imported butter from NZ, but it wasn´t our only source, and I doubt we got "most" of our butter from there (Please provide stats if I´m wrong) I would think it in our best interests to maintain good trading relations with the EU with respect to agriculture, whilst we develop new deals with other counties We got most of our food from the Commonwealth countries and ourselves, and not from the EU as the EU did not exist. Edited February 2, 2020 by paul moy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Icecream Snow 761 Posted February 2, 2020 It's fine, I mean there's no way that this guy couldn't get us a great deal right? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
A Load of Squit 5,160 Posted February 2, 2020 23 minutes ago, paul moy said: We got most of our food from the Commonwealth countries and ourselves, and not from the EU as the EU did not exist. France, Germany, Spain etc. didn't exist until the EU was formed? More ill-informed nonsense from Paul Moy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SwindonCanary 455 Posted February 2, 2020 We got no butter from France, Germany or Spain before the 70's 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herman 9,749 Posted February 2, 2020 Any facts to back up that statement? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SwindonCanary 455 Posted February 2, 2020 2 minutes ago, Herman said: Any facts to back up that statement? YEP 😑 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
paul moy 235 Posted February 2, 2020 4 minutes ago, Herman said: Any facts to back up that statement? You never have facts so why should Swindon........ sauce for the goose..... LOL 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herman 9,749 Posted February 2, 2020 (edited) Useless pair of time wasting w⚓s. I'm done with you. Edited February 2, 2020 by Herman Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
How I Wrote Elastic Man 1,186 Posted February 2, 2020 47 minutes ago, SwindonCanary said: We got no butter from France, Germany or Spain before the 70's What about Denmark? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
How I Wrote Elastic Man 1,186 Posted February 2, 2020 22 minutes ago, Herman said: Useless pair of time wasting wankers. I'm done with you. shouldn´t that be Anchors 😉 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
How I Wrote Elastic Man 1,186 Posted February 2, 2020 1 hour ago, SwindonCanary said: We got no butter from France, Germany or Spain before the 70's whats this? French butter was shipped to London! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herman 9,749 Posted February 2, 2020 5 hours ago, Yellow Fever said: Just saw the faux Telegraph front page. Seems like there's no cake to eat ! I suppose the Brexiters need to get the blame in early. Won't change anything though. We are now a 'third' country as far as the EU is concerned. The real world already catching on quick. I wonder how the UK (sorry England) will now have to change to compete - Singapore model, US model anybody? Really really wouldn't want to be unskilled or 'left' behind in such a knowledge based non- manufacturing 'Minford' economy. "‘EU reneges on deal’ turns out to mean ‘EU maintains its longstanding position to which the UK agreed in the Political Declaration’. Not quite the same thing." David Gauke in reponse to same nonsensical headline. We've got another year plus of BS from the same people that brought us this farce. Never any responsibility will be taken. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
paul moy 235 Posted February 2, 2020 1 minute ago, Herman said: "‘EU reneges on deal’ turns out to mean ‘EU maintains its longstanding position to which the UK agreed in the Political Declaration’. Not quite the same thing." David Gauke in reponse to same nonsensical headline. We've got another year plus of BS from the same people that brought us this farce. Never any responsibility will be taken. Well, it was remoaners that led us into this ridiculous deal so you can blame yourselves. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Daz Sparks 1,151 Posted February 2, 2020 14 minutes ago, paul moy said: Well, it was remoaners that led us into this ridiculous deal so you can blame yourselves. Yup, now you have your precious Brexit, you still won't take any responsibility for it... ...seems about right. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
How I Wrote Elastic Man 1,186 Posted February 2, 2020 8 minutes ago, Herman said: Takk fyrir 🤗 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herman 9,749 Posted February 2, 2020 Engar áhyggjur.😀 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SwindonCanary 455 Posted February 2, 2020 Well done to Boris = the EU said negotiations will not start unless you give up the fishing right, Boris said No way, 👍 Now it's about Gib and the Spanish Boris again said No 👍 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kick it off 1,948 Posted February 2, 2020 44 minutes ago, Herman said: Teşekkürler Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
How I Wrote Elastic Man 1,186 Posted February 2, 2020 12 minutes ago, SwindonCanary said: Well done to Boris = the EU said negotiations will not start unless you give up the fishing right, Boris said No way, 👍 Where did you read this? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SwindonCanary 455 Posted February 2, 2020 1 minute ago, How I Wrote Elastic Man said: Where did you read this? The times Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herman 9,749 Posted February 2, 2020 Telaşa gerek yok 👍 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kick it off 1,948 Posted February 2, 2020 On the point of fishing access - The UK has a strong position (a rarity) due to the amount of fish in our waters. The other side to that coin though is that we export 70% of the fish we catch to the EU and if there's no trade off in terms of access to UK waters then I suspect they will simply make it very difficult to export fish there and catch them somewhere else. Norway for example put a huge refrigeration warehouse in Gambia in exchange for access to their fishing waters - I know that to be true because I saw it when I was in Gambia - the unit broke down and nobody had the skills or the parts available to fix it so it was utterly useless after 6 months and the locals went back to smoking the fish (smells horrific) but Norway retained their fishing rights. It's not that hard for the EU to replace the access, they'll just go elsewhere. Pain in the **** for sure, but it's not like they can't find fish anywhere else so don't think it will be as much of a stumbling block as Boris hopes it will be. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites