ricardo 7,347 Posted December 12, 2019 Worst Labour total since 1935. I have to say I didnt believe Labour could go under 200 seats. The wrong leader and Brexit has killed them, probably for a decade. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Canary Wundaboy 1,358 Posted December 12, 2019 Exit poll could be wrong. Just to throw it out there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SwindonCanary 455 Posted December 12, 2019 1 minute ago, Canary Wundaboy said: Exit poll could be wrong. Just to throw it out there. Wishful thinking !!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Van wink 2,994 Posted December 12, 2019 Just now, ricardo said: Worst Labour total since 1935. I have to say I didnt believe Labour could go under 200 seats. The wrong leader and Brexit has killed them, probably for a decade. Wrong leader and wrong front bench. They need to clear out the Momentum nutters, but they probably wont, nothing more than protest group. Pound is soaring. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hogesar 9,618 Posted December 12, 2019 What's the likelihood the exit poll is really, really wrong? Big shock as far as I'm concerned, everything seemed to be pointing to things getting closer and closer as we reached today. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Capt. Pants 4,196 Posted December 12, 2019 Labour's policies were too far to the left. To a young person they were going to nationalise the internet. Corbyn and McDonnell are dour couple of ****s. We needed a strong opposition and we got a couple of duffers. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hillhead 114 Posted December 12, 2019 Couple of interesting comments there by Kienssberg et all on bbc If the majority is that big then he doesn’t have to plead with the more extreme Brexiteer conservatives Kuenssberg then adds that he has the safety net of ignoring promises made regarding getting brexit done! interesting. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Van wink 2,994 Posted December 12, 2019 17 minutes ago, PurpleCanary said: Not at all. I never called for the result of the referendum to be overturned, and I expected a Tory victory once May quit. Just a prediction I think will come true. And I suspect you may be among those who will find they sense of joy greatly diminishing as the years roll on under a Johnson prime ministership, with an economically catastrophic Brexit nowhere near the semi-soft version you said you wanted, and with the rest of the business of government equally mismanaged. At least, if this result is correct, he can negotiate from a position of strength and it may well result in a softer brexit than the one we would get if the ERG still held the whip hand Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kick it off 1,948 Posted December 12, 2019 1 minute ago, Van wink said: At least, if this result is correct, he can negotiate from a position of strength and it may well result in a softer brexit than the one we would get if the ERG still held the whip hand Strength in terms of domestic numbers - the EU still holds all the cards in the deck, just as they always have. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Capt. Pants 4,196 Posted December 12, 2019 1 minute ago, Hillhead said: Couple of interesting comments there by Kienssberg et all on bbc If the majority is that big then he doesn’t have to plead with the more extreme Brexiteer conservatives Kuenssberg then adds that he has the safety net of ignoring promises made regarding getting brexit done! interesting. I suspect the pace may not be as quick as expected once the reality sinks in. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Canary Wundaboy 1,358 Posted December 12, 2019 13 minutes ago, SwindonCanary said: Wishful thinking !!! At least we’ll have a party in Parliament with a clear majority and no more of this hung Parliament BS for the next 5 years. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ricardo 7,347 Posted December 12, 2019 When Corbyn was elected leader, George Osborn said it was proof that God was a Tory. Not wrong was he. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ricardo 7,347 Posted December 12, 2019 6 minutes ago, kick it off said: Strength in terms of domestic numbers - the EU still holds all the cards in the deck, just as they always have. Never mind, this was only an advisory election😉 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SwindonCanary 455 Posted December 12, 2019 The real fault lies with those that voted Remain, including all those shameless MP's in the Tory party. Instead of honouring the result they have wasted over 3 years which has allowed the seeds of discontent to be sown and flourish, no I am sorry you can't blame those that wanted freedom from the EU, the blames lies firmly at the feet of the Remainers who have done everything in their power to wreck democracy in an attempt to overturn a democratic vote. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PurpleCanary 5,554 Posted December 12, 2019 (edited) 11 minutes ago, kick it off said: Strength in terms of domestic numbers - the EU still holds all the cards in the deck, just as they always have. Quite right. And there is no sign Johnson wants a softer Brexit. Certainly many of the Tory backers and the Americans Johnson wants to do business with will demand a low-regulation world. Edited December 12, 2019 by PurpleCanary Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rock The Boat 1,325 Posted December 12, 2019 The Indian community epitomises all that is great about our country. Arrived poor, rolled their sleeves up, got to work, didn't ask for handouts, special favours, but integrated without losing their cultural identity. Now they take part in government, run big businesses, do charitable work. They are a model for other immigrant communities. And they will thrive under a conservative government Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rock The Boat 1,325 Posted December 12, 2019 Sweet if we could get rid of Clive Lewis so uncouth. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kick it off 1,948 Posted December 12, 2019 (edited) 5 minutes ago, SwindonCanary said: The real fault lies with those that voted Remain, including all those shameless MP's in the Tory party. Instead of honouring the result they have wasted over 3 years which has allowed the seeds of discontent to be sown and flourish, no I am sorry you can't blame those that wanted freedom from the EU, the blames lies firmly at the feet of the Remainers who have done everything in their power to wreck democracy in an attempt to overturn a democratic vote. Sorry Swindo, I can and will continue to blame the Turkeys for being thick enough to vote for perpetual Christmas. Selling the country up the river based on snake oil. The real fault lies with morons like you who are too thick to know what you're voting for. Edited December 12, 2019 by kick it off 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mello Yello 2,281 Posted December 12, 2019 Hankie for Owen Jones......it needs to be the size of a King-size bed sheet...... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mello Yello 2,281 Posted December 12, 2019 1 minute ago, kick it off said: Sorry Swindo, I can and will continue to blame the Turkeys for being thick enough to vote for Christmas. Selling the country up the river based on snake oil. The real fault lies with morons like you who are too thick to know what you're voting for. Awful lotta thick turkeys in the UK then....... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
keelansgrandad 6,679 Posted December 12, 2019 If it is accurate, and there is no reason to think that it isn't, then it is unbelievable that Labour cannot get to 220. I should have read the signs yesterday when one of my golf chums, a former Labour Parish Councillor, who I knew had resigned from the party, said he wasn't even going to vote for them and hoped Corbyn was humiliated so that the centre of the Party regained control. But as Alan Johnson has just said, Momentum will claim it as a victory because a glorious defeat is some kind of result. Obviously Brexit was probably the main reason but the trend of movement to the right meant that the policies didn't appeal. Personally, I am worried by the predicted large margin as this can't be overturned in one parliament even with Richard Head as PM. Some of the more extreme right wing posters on here can gloat, fair enough, but if as you have been saying, the country comes first then choose your thoughts and words carefully. The country really will have made it clear what they want this time and no amount of argument will mean anything. The greater amount will be delighted so fair play. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Crafty Canary 495 Posted December 12, 2019 Is Billy Bullsh1te still claiming Brexit won’t happen? 😁 2 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kick it off 1,948 Posted December 12, 2019 10 minutes ago, Mello Yello said: Awful lotta thick turkeys in the UK then....... First sensible thing you've said in quite some time Mello. I agree. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bagster 101 Posted December 12, 2019 Sometimes you win and sometimes you win again hahaha Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mello Yello 2,281 Posted December 12, 2019 1 minute ago, kick it off said: First sensible thing you've said in quite some time Mello. I agree. Blub...... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bagster 101 Posted December 12, 2019 Best thing for labour too, can now get rid of momentum 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bagster 101 Posted December 12, 2019 Well I predicted 58 this morning , not too shabby The red wall to fall Tory Remainers couldn't bring themselves to vote for corbyn Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rock The Boat 1,325 Posted December 12, 2019 . The real fault lies with morons like you who are too thick to know what you're voting for. The lefties just can't get past this. It's why they lost. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kick it off 1,948 Posted December 12, 2019 5 minutes ago, Mello Yello said: Blub...... Normal nonsensical service is resumed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mello Yello 2,281 Posted December 12, 2019 (edited) I wonder if our club Matriarch is sobbing into her glass of Dom Perignon Vintage?...... Edited December 12, 2019 by Mello Yello double entry Share this post Link to post Share on other sites