Mello Yello 2,280 Posted October 18, 2019 2 minutes ago, Bill said: we'll have to take your word for that ps does it hospitalise you ? Xmas is coming......nuts are in demand.....you'll be so popular...... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herman 9,713 Posted October 18, 2019 6 minutes ago, Mello Yello said: Any remoaners taking up a free ride to Smokey Auld Laandaan for the anti-brexit blub waah fest? It's courtesy of our Champagne Campaigner and Colossal Club Matriarch 'Deals no Deals' remainer, who's personally funding the (hopefully eco-friendly) charabancs.....I also wonder if crates o' socialist stout will be supplied for the oiks trip daaarn?...... Toot Toot!.... Hope she don't miss the game against the cheerful Cherries?..... I'll be there. It won't change anything but it will highlight that not everyone is stupid enough to fall for this crap. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mello Yello 2,280 Posted October 18, 2019 1 minute ago, Herman said: I'll be there. It won't change anything but it will highlight that not everyone is stupid enough to fall for this crap. Bless.....are you going with a grown up?..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bill 1,788 Posted October 18, 2019 13 minutes ago, Mello Yello said: Speaking of chlamydia....along comes Bill/City 1st..... I bet Ben Elton was your favourite Chlamydian......Drip drip..... find yourself something to do hand crank isn't it basket weaving classes this afternoon ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mello Yello 2,280 Posted October 18, 2019 1 minute ago, Bill said: find yourself something to do hand crank isn't it basket weaving classes this afternoon ? You are a strange one.......I could make you a basket case?...... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
keelansgrandad 6,679 Posted October 18, 2019 Funny mentioning Ben Elton as he once described himself as a Clem Atlee Supporter. Well that's alright with me. The man responsible for the Welfare State has to be admired. And now people want to dismantle or privatise it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Van wink 2,994 Posted October 18, 2019 On 17/10/2019 at 10:08, Bill said: Update Tories 288 288 The rest 362 guess what ? and that's assuming none of the ERG vote against whatever Bertie has cobbled together in the way of a deal This looks like an absurd post to me, going to be an awful lot tighter than that in the real world. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hairy Canary 668 Posted October 18, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, Bill said: oh dear, the numptoes are out in force for lairy canary, the figure is not 23 short frt the Tories, as Tories 288 the rest 352 ( who will vote) 64 so it needs 33 NOT as you state 23 aha, will be the bleat, that was the figures from the BBC site I was too dim to check the basic maths Maybe you should read the BBC article properly before you have the breathtaking arrogance to question Kuenssberg's figures? The article makes no mention of Johnson being 23 short. It actually says that there are 23 ex-Tories and that Johnson needs their support along with all the 287 Tories. It then goes on to say That is still not quite enough, though, so the PM will also need the backing of some Labour MPs and ex-Labour independents. In March, when MPs voted on Theresa May's deal for the third time, five Labour MPs backed it, plus two ex-Labour independents. Were those Labour MP figures to be repeated Johnson would then reach 317 votes - i.e. three short. Why you need to have some simple arithmetic on a BBC website explained to you God only knows. 287 + 23 + 7 = 317. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-politics-50096668/crunching-the-numbers-on-key-brexit-vote This explains the article in little pictures if you're still struggling Edited October 18, 2019 by Hairy Canary Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hairy Canary 668 Posted October 18, 2019 (edited) . Edited October 18, 2019 by Hairy Canary Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rock The Boat 1,325 Posted October 18, 2019 1 hour ago, Herman said: I'll be there. It won't change anything but it will highlight that not everyone is stupid enough to fall for this crap. Well don't attempt to climb on top of any tube train carriages when you get to London. The result might be a bit embarrassing but you'd get your 15 minutes of fame. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ricardo 7,345 Posted October 18, 2019 1 hour ago, Van wink said: This looks like an absurd post to me, going to be an awful lot tighter than that in the real world. Don't blame Billy, he doesn't live in the real world. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herman 9,713 Posted October 18, 2019 53 minutes ago, Rock The Boat said: Well don't attempt to climb on top of any tube train carriages when you get to London. The result might be a bit embarrassing but you'd get your 15 minutes of fame. You RWNJs always struggle with nuance. Just because I agree with someone's stance doesn't mean I automatically agree with their actions. I thought this part of the protest was dumb and targeted the wrong people and thing. Hope that helps. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SwindonCanary 455 Posted October 18, 2019 The good thing in for me is that no matter what the outcome of the vote on Saturday Boris has won. If he wins great, but if he loses then Labour now have no excuse for a general election, so bring it on. 👍 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herman 9,713 Posted October 18, 2019 He's capitulated completely yet you still cheer. How far this country has fallen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SwindonCanary 455 Posted October 18, 2019 1 minute ago, Herman said: You RWNJs always struggle with nuance. Just because I agree with someone's stance doesn't mean I automatically agree with their actions. I thought this part of the protest was dumb and targeted the wrong people and thing. Hope that helps. Totally agree, if they are protesting about the underground, If that's not working people will use their cars ! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ricardo 7,345 Posted October 18, 2019 4 minutes ago, Herman said: He's capitulated completely yet you still cheer. How far this country has fallen. Time to move on Herman. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SwindonCanary 455 Posted October 18, 2019 9 minutes ago, Herman said: He's capitulated completely yet you still cheer. How far this country has fallen. How can you say that ? I can't find a print of the agreement anywhere. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herman 9,713 Posted October 18, 2019 8 minutes ago, ricardo said: Time to move on Herman. No chance matey. These ****ers aren't getting away with this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Surfer 1,547 Posted October 18, 2019 1 hour ago, Hairy Canary said: Why you need to have some simple arithmetic on a BBC website explained to you God only knows. 287 + 23 + 7 = 317. What Bill said was " he needs about 30 " looks like for all your nitpicking he was right about that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Surfer 1,547 Posted October 18, 2019 Conservative 288 w/o any DUP = 288 Total 650, less 7 Sin Fien and 1 Speaker = 642 642 - 288 = 354 288 - 354 = Government "majority" of negative 66 Where does he get 34 more votes, or 33 plus an abstention from, there are only 21 ex-Tories ... If 21 Ex Tories and the 5 Labour and 2 ex Labour who voted for May's agreement vote for him that is 28. So he still needs 6, or 5 plus an abstention. .... maybe he will need the DUP after all... what will he offer? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
canarydan23 4,060 Posted October 18, 2019 6 minutes ago, Surfer said: Conservative 288 w/o any DUP = 288 Total 650, less 7 Sin Fien and 1 Speaker = 642 642 - 288 = 354 288 - 354 = Government "majority" of negative 66 Where does he get 34 more votes, or 33 plus an abstention from, there are only 21 ex-Tories ... If 21 Ex Tories and the 5 Labour and 2 ex Labour who voted for May's agreement vote for him that is 28. So he still needs 6, or 5 plus an abstention. .... maybe he will need the DUP after all... what will he offer? There is talk of 9 Labour MPs voting for it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Surfer 1,547 Posted October 18, 2019 7 minutes ago, canarydan23 said: There is talk of 9 Labour MPs voting for it. If so If 21 Ex Tories and 9 Labour and 2 ex Labour who voted for May's agreement vote for him that is 32. So he still needs 2, or 1 plus an abstention. .... it will be close but then so was the referendum result. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Surfer 1,547 Posted October 18, 2019 What's this? from the Telegraph: " ... it has emerged two ministers are on "resignation watch" over Boris Johnson's EU agreement. " Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Van wink 2,994 Posted October 18, 2019 1 hour ago, ricardo said: Don't blame Billy, he doesn't live in the real world. I dont blame him, its what he sees throught the looking glass. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ricardo 7,345 Posted October 18, 2019 2 minutes ago, Van wink said: I dont blame him, its what he sees throught the looking glass. Will be on suicide watch when this thing finally passes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herman 9,713 Posted October 18, 2019 43 minutes ago, SwindonCanary said: How can you say that ? I can't find a print of the agreement anywhere. Here's some analysis. https://www.theguardian.com/politics/ng-interactive/2019/oct/18/how-much-johnson-great-new-deal-actually-new https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-50083026 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SwindonCanary 455 Posted October 18, 2019 1 minute ago, Herman said: Here's some analysis. https://www.theguardian.com/politics/ng-interactive/2019/oct/18/how-much-johnson-great-new-deal-actually-new https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-50083026 I don't want analysis, I'd prefer to make my own mind up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Van wink 2,994 Posted October 18, 2019 (edited) 15 minutes ago, ricardo said: Will be on suicide watch when this thing finally passes. This wont help! "Scottish court has rejected case which argued that Prime Minister Boris Johnson's Brexit deal was unlawful as it contravened tax legislation" Edited October 18, 2019 by Van wink Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thirsty Lizard 3,155 Posted October 18, 2019 28 minutes ago, SwindonCanary said: I don't want analysis, I'd prefer to make my own mind up. The fact that you want to make your own mind up without looking at any of the facts comes as no surprise to anybody on here Swindon...................... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SwindonCanary 455 Posted October 18, 2019 16 minutes ago, Thirsty Lizard said: The fact that you want to make your own mind up without looking at any of the facts comes as no surprise to anybody on here Swindon...................... It seems a shame that you have to follow someone else with their view, rather than make your own mind up ! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites