Jack Barak 46 Posted February 19, 2019 I am no fan of the Mail but this is a really good piece. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-6718009/The-time-Cardiff-care-money-Emiliano-Sala-died.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BobLoz3 492 Posted February 19, 2019 (edited) I hope Mackay is ashamed of himself. There was a letter that he'd sent to Sala before his transfer to Cardiff, which basically said how little he cared for his personal wishes. It was absolutely rotten in the extreme and showed that agents like him are purely in it for the money. Mind you, with an owner like Vincent Tan (basically the football club owner version of some kind of Bond villain) is it any wonder that some dodgy deals slipped through at Cardiff? The guy seems like a total fruit loop to me. Edited February 19, 2019 by BobLoz3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Peanuts 150 Posted February 19, 2019 (edited) Excellent read. I think regardless of any dodgy dealing by agents, when all is said and done the blame for the crash is going to be put onto the dead pilot. It's very sad, but ultimately he's responsible for the flight although we may never know what pressures he may have been under. The cost of a proper private jet seems cheap now, and surely any of those involved (McKay, Cardiff, Nantes and Sala himself) could have afforded it. As to McKay being ashamed, I'd imagine it's been a fair few years since he was capable of that emotion. Edited February 19, 2019 by Peanuts McKay for Mackay Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Molly Windley 76 Posted February 19, 2019 Just for clarity McKay, agent involved in transfer of Sala and who`s sons got contracts at Cardiff Mackay, former manager who was not involved in either Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shefcanary 2,392 Posted February 19, 2019 Bet Colin is sweating and hoping the authorities don't look to deeply into this - his whole career has been built on dodgy deals. The tales I've heard about him! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Disco Dales Jockstrap 1,891 Posted February 19, 2019 6 hours ago, Jack Barak said: I am no fan of the Mail but this is a really good piece. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-6718009/The-time-Cardiff-care-money-Emiliano-Sala-died.html Have read Martin Samuel since his 'Times' days. Don't always agree with everything he writes but it's always a good read. OTBC Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BobLoz3 492 Posted February 20, 2019 13 hours ago, Molly Windley said: Just for clarity McKay, agent involved in transfer of Sala and who`s sons got contracts at Cardiff Mackay, former manager who was not involved in either Ah yes... Malky. Who could forget his racist jibes towards Koreans... He should be ashamed n'all! I meant McKay... The agent. But I think that was obvious (ish!) 😊 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cornish sam 951 Posted March 25, 2019 https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/47696561 Nice to see Cardiff being honourable in this.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wcorkcanary 4,334 Posted March 25, 2019 There should be a minutes silence before every game until the pilot is found. Or 90 minutes silence at every Cardiff game until they cough up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hank shoots Skyler 2,094 Posted March 25, 2019 This is properly sickening. They announced the signing on their official website ffs, it was their shoddy travel arrangements that caused this. How they can have the audacity to find some kind of loophole to avoid paying is truly disgusting. Complete lack of class and a total insult to Sala’s family and Nantes. ****ing scummy club Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sgncfc 1,225 Posted March 25, 2019 So many of Cardiff's dealings since Tan took over are suspect, yet he is deemed "fit and proper" by the authorities. I suspect in this case that either the insurance wasn't in place at all, or has been queried because of the circumstances; that isn't the insurance company's fault. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alex Moss 2,165 Posted March 25, 2019 I think it’s a disgrace that during the initial tragedy they made it very clear that he was their player with such things as tributes along the lines of ‘we never got to see you play but you will always be a blue’, but all of a sudden, now they think the dust has settled and they can weasel their way out of it, they’re claiming he wasn’t. Well, what’s it to be Cardiff, now you’ve milked the worldwide publicity for your club? It’s just got a really vile vibe about it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Drazen Muzinic 1,445 Posted March 25, 2019 Very interesting about Willie McKay's sons following Colin to Cardiff from Leeds. Just saying. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rivvo 257 Posted March 26, 2019 I should imagine that the non payment is being driven by Cardiff’s insurers who would have told them not to make any payments until they’re satisfied that they’re liable, this is how the insurers normally work isn’t it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cornish sam 951 Posted March 26, 2019 They say fans get the club they deserve, well seemingly that's the case with Cardiff ... http://www.cardiffcityforum.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=206106&sid=8ce829c89dbf0495c46852fe90fec78a It starts off well but quickly descends... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SwindonCanary 455 Posted March 26, 2019 Sad thing is that the agents will still get their cut from who ever pays Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rivvo 257 Posted March 26, 2019 1 hour ago, cornish sam said: They say fans get the club they deserve, well seemingly that's the case with Cardiff ... http://www.cardiffcityforum.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=206106&sid=8ce829c89dbf0495c46852fe90fec78a It starts off well but quickly descends... Couple of insensitive comments particularly the guy who suggests it was breach of contract for him not to attend training after he was deceased. The rest however seem to concentrate on the legal issues/insurance aspect. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
How I Wrote Elastic Man 1,186 Posted January 19, 2023 Cardiff tried to insure Sala day after death I guess we will have to wait to find out how true this headline is, but I'm a bit surprised that the club seems to think it is the job of the insurer to chase up clubs when they make a new purchase RIP Ibbotson & Sala 😔 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sgncfc 1,225 Posted January 19, 2023 Cardiff are suing their brokers, not the insurers, for failing to place the cover. It was always possible that there was no cover in place (see my comment above) and now we know why. As to whose fault that is, I guess we let the court decide, as it will depend entirely on what was agreed between the club and their brokers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
How I Wrote Elastic Man 1,186 Posted January 19, 2023 7 minutes ago, sgncfc said: Cardiff are suing their brokers, not the insurers, for failing to place the cover. It was always possible that there was no cover in place (see my comment above) and now we know why. As to whose fault that is, I guess we let the court decide, as it will depend entirely on what was agreed between the club and their brokers. Thanks for the clarification. Insurance isn't a speciality of mine. I would think it is incumbent on the insuree (if that is the correct term) to establish that it's broker is aware of any new details, such as a new player As you say, the courts will decide Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cornish sam 951 Posted January 20, 2023 They fact that they emailed them to tell them to include him on the insurance after the plane went missing sounds like pretty damning evidence against Cardiff in this case. All in all they have not come out of this looking good at all... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wcorkcanary 4,334 Posted January 21, 2023 19 hours ago, cornish sam said: They fact that they emailed them to tell them to include him on the insurance after the plane went missing sounds like pretty damning evidence against Cardiff in this case. All in all they have not come out of this looking good at all... The whole Sala Saga stinks of greed, corner cutting and attempted ar5e covering. Football transfers at their finest. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
