nutty nigel 7,889 Posted January 29, 2019 https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=2324837334206554&id=238285906195051 🙃 2 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ron obvious 1,709 Posted January 29, 2019 Premiership be warned! We's a-comin' to getcha!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
westcoastcanary 173 Posted January 30, 2019 Please don't leave those of us with enough sense to avoid Facebook like the plague, in the dark nutty. Can't you reveal more? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mark .Y. 373 Posted January 30, 2019 Fantastic goal, I've watched it about 30 times since the weekend 🙂 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GenerationA47 850 Posted January 30, 2019 12 hours ago, ron obvious said: Premiership be warned! We's a-comin' to getcha!! Let’s just agree it’s great stuff for championship level and it’s thrilling to see us successfully playing this way The Premier is a whole different... er, league Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BobLoz3 608 Posted January 30, 2019 2 hours ago, GenerationA47 said: Let’s just agree it’s great stuff for championship level and it’s thrilling to see us successfully playing this way The Premier is a whole different... er, league I would suggest that the way we play football now is actually more suited to the Prem. So, just wait and see yeah? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Feedthewolf 5,885 Posted January 30, 2019 "But we need to get it fooooorward quicker" 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nutty nigel 7,889 Posted January 30, 2019 10 hours ago, westcoastcanary said: Please don't leave those of us with enough sense to avoid Facebook like the plague, in the dark nutty. Can't you reveal more? I'll try... Tippy Tappy.mp4 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
king canary 8,734 Posted January 30, 2019 It's interesting to watch that in comparison to last season- how many players are looking for the forward pass, how high the fullbacks are encouraged to push, how much the players move off the ball. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nutty nigel 7,889 Posted January 30, 2019 At times we played like that last season. One game that springs to mind is the Bolton game (famous for Webber's "support someone else") but we had no end product. I was very anti Farke football up until then but since then you could see this coming together. Many said so at the time. Transition had become a dirty word on here but what else could we call it? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Feedthewolf 5,885 Posted January 30, 2019 That goal is just magnificent. 😍 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hogesar 10,695 Posted January 30, 2019 LUMP IT UP THERE NORWICH STOP P*SS*NG ABOUT 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
westcoastcanary 173 Posted January 30, 2019 (edited) 4 hours ago, king canary said: It's interesting to watch that in comparison to last season- how many players are looking for the forward pass, how high the fullbacks are encouraged to push, how much the players move off the ball. As nutty says, there were signs last season. The point is that, apart from the players to whom the style of play was, let's say, less alien, e.g. our German contingent, Klose, the rest were learning on the hoof. It doesn't work unless everyone on the pitch understands what they need to do to make it work. Compare this season's Hernandez (or Cantwell) with last season's Josh M, for example. Last season the understanding was developing but far from perfect (still isn't perfect) across the group as a whole. And if X isn't on the wavelength, Y can't make the pass he wanted to make and Z can't make the run that would have collected the pass, and so on. In that clip what stands out is the confidence of the players that the others are going to be in the right places at the right times. The interesting point for me can be put in terms of the idea of a "playmaker". You might ask whether, currently, Vrancic is our "playmaker"; when Leitner plays, is he our "playmaker"? As I see it, the answer is No! Our play is not orchestrated by any particular player with the ball, but by the players without the ball. Vrancic and Leitner "initiate" a play, but they don't "make" the play. You might describe Vrancic and Leitner as "fulcrums" of much of our play, but you might also say the same of Stiepermann and Buendia when the play is further up the pitch. Edited January 30, 2019 by westcoastcanary Added last paragraph. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
splendidrush 720 Posted January 30, 2019 Some of it is so calm, it's like they're on the training ground. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
king canary 8,734 Posted January 31, 2019 15 hours ago, westcoastcanary said: As nutty says, there were signs last season. The point is that, apart from the players to whom the style of play was, let's say, less alien, e.g. our German contingent, Klose, the rest were learning on the hoof. It doesn't work unless everyone on the pitch understands what they need to do to make it work. Compare this season's Hernandez (or Cantwell) with last season's Josh M, for example. Last season the understanding was developing but far from perfect (still isn't perfect) across the group as a whole. And if X isn't on the wavelength, Y can't make the pass he wanted to make and Z can't make the run that would have collected the pass, and so on. This is true and yet I still think Farke has given a bit more license to players this season- for example last season our fullbacks didn't seem to have the trust to push so high, meaning the space created by the wide midfielders tucking in wasn't taken advantage of. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
westcoastcanary 173 Posted January 31, 2019 1 hour ago, king canary said: This is true and yet I still think Farke has given a bit more license to players this season- for example last season our fullbacks didn't seem to have the trust to push so high, meaning the space created by the wide midfielders tucking in wasn't taken advantage of. Well, neither Pinto nor, later, Reed on the right flank were endowed with Aarons' pace, similarly neither Husband nor Stiepermann on the left (Lewis played only 18 league games). But more importantly IMO, and what I think is the real explanation, the often far from perfect execution last season meant much greater risk of breakdown in the middle third, leading to the team as a whole playing deeper than we are witnessing now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
king canary 8,734 Posted January 31, 2019 14 minutes ago, westcoastcanary said: Well, neither Pinto nor, later, Reed on the right flank were endowed with Aarons' pace, similarly neither Husband nor Stiepermann on the left (Lewis played only 18 league games). But more importantly IMO, and what I think is the real explanation, the often far from perfect execution last season meant much greater risk of breakdown in the middle third, leading to the team as a whole playing deeper than we are witnessing now. I think this is going to be an agree to disagree one here- in my opinion there is a material and structural difference between the football we play now and the football we tried to play last season. Not huge, but it is there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
westcoastcanary 173 Posted January 31, 2019 5 hours ago, king canary said: I think this is going to be an agree to disagree one here- in my opinion there is a material and structural difference between the football we play now and the football we tried to play last season. Not huge, but it is there. 👍 No problem. I learn more by disagreeing with you Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
