nutty nigel 7,902 Posted January 19, 2019 PUPs friend Ricky Martin has landed a top job at West Ham. I'm pleased for him👍 https://trainingground.guru/articles/martin-appointed-academy-operations-manager-by-west-ham Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Van wink 2,994 Posted January 19, 2019 Bit of a dream job for him I imagine, he's a big West Ham fan. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
A Load of Squit 6,260 Posted January 19, 2019 Quite a commute from Mulbarton. 😀 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DAVID SEWELL 25 Posted January 19, 2019 Well done to the much maligned ‘Man from Mulbarton’. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
westcoastcanary 173 Posted January 19, 2019 Just how much credit is due to RM for the fact that we now have Lewis, Aarons, Godfrey and Cantwell regularly starting and the club on an even keel financially with the aid of money secured through the sales of the Murphy twins and Maddison? If it's as much as I suspect it might be, I hope our current talent spotters are equally good. Genuine question; I haven't enough inside knowledge to do anything more than guess. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nutty nigel 7,902 Posted January 20, 2019 (edited) Ricky delivered us cat one academy and passed further audits to keep it. No mean feat considering what we've found out since. He also had loads of influence on the youngsters who came through the academy. Jacob Murphy confirmed this when he was sold to Newcastle. Edited January 20, 2019 by nutty nigel 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
westcoastcanary 173 Posted January 20, 2019 1 hour ago, nutty nigel said: Ricky delivered us cat one academy and passed further audits to keep it. No mean feat considering what we've found out since. He also had loads of influence on the youngsters who came through the academy. Jacob Murphy confirmed this when he was sold to Newcastle. What I was mainly wondering about was who was doing the talent spotting that brought the youngsters in. Not so much the Murphy twins and Cantwell who are local lads, but Lewis and Aarons (from the Luton academy), Godfrey (York) and Maddison (Coventry). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bethnal Yellow and Green 2,424 Posted January 20, 2019 (edited) 25 minutes ago, westcoastcanary said: What I was mainly wondering about was who was doing the talent spotting that brought the youngsters in. Not so much the Murphy twins and Cantwell who are local lads, but Lewis and Aarons (from the Luton academy), Godfrey (York) and Maddison (Coventry). I guess Gregg Broughton who was the Luton academy manager before moving to Norwich brought in Aarons. Although he was still at Luton when Lewis joined. Like with senior recruitment you generally can’t single out one person and say ‘that transfer was due to that person’. It will involved anaylsts, technical scouts, youth scouts and then a head of recruitment to weigh up the options. Someone who I know who worked for a Championship in recruitment told me that he genuinely didn’t know who ‘spotted’ certain players they signed, as it is such a team effort. Edited January 20, 2019 by Bethnal Yellow and Green Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
westcoastcanary 173 Posted January 20, 2019 Thanks Bethnal. According to an EDP article (2018) about Greg Broughton, he actually joined City a year or so before Lewis was brought in. What I'm interested in is why, given the now obvious success of the talent spotting that was going on from 2016 onwards, SW thought it necessary to institute wholesale changes in the autumn of 2017 (which was when Broughton and others left the club). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nutty nigel 7,902 Posted January 21, 2019 I guess it was the change in direction Westy. When we had McNally's committee model it the various different departments had the aim to be "best in class". This new era seems to be that all the departments have to be part of one ethos driven by the club. So just like the players have to fit the ethos so do the coaches. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bethnal Yellow and Green 2,424 Posted January 21, 2019 On 20/01/2019 at 17:08, westcoastcanary said: Thanks Bethnal. According to an EDP article (2018) about Greg Broughton, he actually joined City a year or so before Lewis was brought in. What I'm interested in is why, given the now obvious success of the talent spotting that was going on from 2016 onwards, SW thought it necessary to institute wholesale changes in the autumn of 2017 (which was when Broughton and others left the club). I didn’t realise Broughton was there so early. Webber, like most Sporting Directors, will want to bring in their own people, people they have worked with before and trust. There was also wholesale change as part of the cost cutting and joing the academy to the first team. The club were good at spotting talent, but they were not good at knowing what to do with the players once they arrived. Also, Broughton having worked with good players at Luton probably wasn’t a sustainable model for youth recruitment . I also suspect that many of the people who did the analysis of the players might still be at the club. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
westcoastcanary 173 Posted January 21, 2019 👍 Thanks Bethnal Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lappinitup 629 Posted May 15, 2019 Ricky Martin appointed as West Ham United’s new Academy Manager....... https://www.whufc.com/news/articles/2019/may/14-may/new-west-ham-united-academy-manager-ricky-martin-looking-forward Well done Ricky, onwards and upwards. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tired 112 Posted May 15, 2019 Now he'll really be livin la vida loca 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nutty nigel 7,902 Posted May 16, 2019 On 15/05/2019 at 16:34, lappinitup said: Ricky Martin appointed as West Ham United’s new Academy Manager....... https://www.whufc.com/news/articles/2019/may/14-may/new-west-ham-united-academy-manager-ricky-martin-looking-forward Well done Ricky, onwards and upwards. Thanks Lapps. That's great to see. 👍 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bill 1,788 Posted May 16, 2019 On 20/01/2019 at 16:18, Bethnal Yellow and Green said: I guess Gregg Broughton who was the Luton academy manager before moving to Norwich brought in Aarons. Although he was still at Luton when Lewis joined. Like with senior recruitment you generally can’t single out one person and say ‘that transfer was due to that person’. It will involved anaylsts, technical scouts, youth scouts and then a head of recruitment to weigh up the options. Someone who I know who worked for a Championship in recruitment told me that he genuinely didn’t know who ‘spotted’ certain players they signed, as it is such a team effort. there is also the case of how players develop/progress which is much, but not all, to do with the level and type of coaching. why did some players of the FA youth Cup winning side 'fall by the way side ? why have players like Fonkeu and Abrahams not 'made it' ? how many other promising youngsters have left the club to eventually sink much lower it is a game of percentages, but I do think we have been moving those numbers in our favour quite considerably over the past decade - as you only have to look at keepers when we had 3 local lads (ex City) all playing in the Championship with another as back up to Krul and McGovern Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lappinitup 629 Posted May 16, 2019 30 minutes ago, Bill said: you only have to look at keepers when we had 3 local lads (ex City) all playing in the Championship with another as back up to Krul and McGovern Not forgetting Joe Lewis who has just signed a new five-year deal at Aberdeen... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bill 1,788 Posted May 16, 2019 2 minutes ago, lappinitup said: Not forgetting Joe Lewis who has just signed a new five-year deal at Aberdeen... even Green is still keeping somewhere albeit keeping a bench warm 😏 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
