TIL 1010 4,657 Posted November 20, 2018 Leeds, Villa and Derby just some who have expressed concern. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/46282788?ns_source=facebook&ns_mchannel=social&ns_campaign=bbc_match_of_the_day&ns_linkname=sport&fbclid=IwAR0GAuqwb_y98g25MgONwo-Co0nzQsrRl4Bq83Zo2h2Zss5hm4TISXflbSE&fbclid=IwAR0tKm3yexFjR2zSORSZsUVhDl4NwNw8TtP3KQHk54hsHtdR6K7eYVad4BU Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FenwayFrank 2,426 Posted November 20, 2018 Oh good, this could be a new reason to have a swipe at the board 😋 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lappinitup 629 Posted November 20, 2018 If you two are going to argue again I'm going home... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TIL 1010 4,657 Posted November 20, 2018 I think his response says it all really Lapps as i thought it was a subject that might provoke a discussion on this new TV deal but little did i know it would get derailed in the first post. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FenwayFrank 2,426 Posted November 20, 2018 I thought I was being supportive ! 😁 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Icecream Snow 761 Posted November 20, 2018 Probably because Villa and Leeds have featured so much on Sky this year they wanted the lions share. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sonyc 5,447 Posted November 20, 2018 Were we one of the 19 clubs expressing reservations I wonder? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PurpleCanary 5,531 Posted November 21, 2018 7 hours ago, sonyc said: Were we one of the 19 clubs expressing reservations I wonder? I believe so. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dylanisabaddog 4,746 Posted November 21, 2018 Ed Balls was on the Adrian Chiles show on 5 Live last week and would only say that the club were watching the situation. Well worth finding on a podcast. Think it was last Friday Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FenwayFrank 2,426 Posted November 21, 2018 Would be a question to ask at the agm Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nuff Said 4,938 Posted November 21, 2018 I was reading about this and in the list of “big” clubs who weren’t happy was the usual suspects - Leeds, Boro, Villa ... and Preston! What’s going on at Deepdale? Weren’t they calling us a “small” club before they played us earlier this season? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Il Pirata 249 Posted November 21, 2018 If Leeds, Villa and Boro we're able to negotiate separate deals with Sky, there wouldn't be a lot of cash left for the rest of the division. I don't think we can realistically expect to negotiate a better deal away from the EFL. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Bristol Nest 512 Posted November 21, 2018 (edited) I read in The Times last week that we were one of the less vocal clubs against the deal, although still very much opposed to it. Premier League 2 may be the next discussion. Edited November 22, 2018 by The Bristol Nest Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KiwiScot 1,418 Posted November 21, 2018 32 minutes ago, The Bristol Nest said: I read in The Times last week that we we were one of the less vocal clubs against the deal. Premier League 2 may be the next discussion. In our interests maybe to have a poorer deal and keep rich clubs from getting richers meaning we are able to compete more. I don't fully believe that, but you never know. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Badger 2,389 Posted November 21, 2018 I think there is a genuine issue here. My understanding is that some of the Championship clubs feel that red button for midweek games is a bit of a "game-changer" and undervalued in the deal. The red button has certainly made the Sky package better value for those that are not obsessed by the EPL and is probably a big part of Sky's competition against the fact that BT has the Champion's league rights - I have both Sky and BT Sport but would rather watch a championship game involving us or our rivals than a Champions league game. Given that some clubs feel (probably correctly) that this might also affect attendances, the Championship probably should get more. However, ultimately all it would mean is that they would then be a position to pay their under-paid stars a little more and there would be greater wage and transfer value competition! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Molly Windley 76 Posted November 21, 2018 Sky pay the EFL clubs involved in a live game around £100,000 for a home game and £10,000 for an away game. Burnley were on 6 times and were paid an additional £12.3 million for those games on top of the £34 million for domestic rights and £40 million for overseas they received. I can see why some Championship clubs believe they can get a better deal than the one the EFL negotiated. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AJ 1,218 Posted November 21, 2018 Can understand why some think it is undervalued compared to the Ridiculous figure that the Premier deal goes for. At the end of the day it's part of the reason why there's such a big gulf between the two leagues. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
It's Character Forming 1,156 Posted November 21, 2018 Basically ITV Digital overpaid years back and found the audience figures didn't justify it. Unless that changes or other TV players are interested, the TV rights lower down realistically are never going to be anywhere near the Prem at the moment. I'm not sure how its divided between the Champs teams and the 3rd & 4th tiers ? I can see a similar argument there that most of the value comes from the Championship, basically the same reason that the Prem broke away so it could control it's own revenue. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
keelansgrandad 6,679 Posted November 21, 2018 It is paltry in comparison but the EFL bargaining position is paltry in comparison. When the big clubs are playing on Sunday, people stay for longer at my golf club, particularly if they don't have Sky at home. I don't think the same would happen if we were on. It is hype more often than not as our games have been very entertaining of late and better than most Prem games. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nuff Said 4,938 Posted November 21, 2018 Weren’t Sky the only bidder for the EFL rights? Kind of difficult to play hardball in that situation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TIL 1010 4,657 Posted November 21, 2018 Several clubs held a meeting last night. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/46282792?ns_campaign=bbc_match_of_the_day&ns_source=facebook&ns_mchannel=social&ns_linkname=sport&fbclid=IwAR0UzhjBoqvmm4CaP4uEfz8A9UT6I9tBYJY8wOB7xhttG4Ku73KXcQA7ciM Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Bristol Nest 512 Posted November 22, 2018 I just edited my post. That's nice. Anyway what I meant was that although we were not as loud as Villa etc we are still against the deal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ricardo 7,239 Posted November 22, 2018 Who knows, it might be irrelevant for us next season😀 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
keelansgrandad 6,679 Posted November 22, 2018 Who knows, it might be irrelevant for us next season Trouble is it is usually relevant the season after 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ricardo 7,239 Posted November 22, 2018 8 minutes ago, keelansgrandad said: Who knows, it might be irrelevant for us next season Trouble is it is usually relevant the season after Parachute payments😀 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
keelansgrandad 6,679 Posted November 22, 2018 Parachute payments If we get promoted, will the board change the self financing policy? Obviously some will disagree, but this squad will get hammered in the Prem. So new players would have to come in. And to be of a standard that will require higher wages once again. Unless we can somehow take the Burnley approach and try and keep our money realistically expecting to hang on for as long as possible. Parachute payments don't seem to last long especially if you are in the Prem for one season only. They seem to just bail out some of the posers who you sign (Naismith?) In fact, the gulf in the differing TV deals for the two divisions sums up the gulf itself and how difficult it is for a club like us to handle it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ricardo 7,239 Posted November 22, 2018 There we have the problem. I suppose we could deliberately just miss out every year😀 How long before someone cottons on? No KG, If we went up we would have to adjust the model to the circumstances. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites