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The way back begins with people (and by extension the people's representatives, the media) demanding and telling the truth. 

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50 minutes ago, keelansgrandad said:

Because he lies.

Don't you think it is ludicrous for a NEWS network to be so totally biased against a political party or person? 

Claims of a left bias by the BBC are a joke against the way Fox News actually uses phrases like "Democratic Lies".

Why do you always post items from right wing news outlets? You are just giving us the opportunity to cite you as the fool you appear to be.

 

You believe claims of Lefty bias at the BBC are a joke and you reckon I'm the fool? 

The Himba nomads of Namibia know the BBC is Lefty bias, ffs.

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1 hour ago, Yellow Fever said:

It's sad to say this but either Trump is now deliberately trying to undermine or obstruct American democracy - and incite his 'base'  as well

Or.

He's clinically quite mad and delusional.

In either event he needs 'relieving' of duty quite quickly. One hopes calmer heads will prevail than many of the current Republicans and the deranged protesters on the streets. One could add for Pence and the GOPs that "All evil needs to triumph is for good men to do nothing."

You couldn't be more wrong -- The likes of Biden, Harris backed up by the entire establishment are attempting to destroy democracy -- They're working towards globalism.

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2 hours ago, Surfer said:

It certainly is hard to trust ANYTHING Tucker Carlson says... 

... post election nothing would make me happier than to see Rupert Murdoch's propaganda empire dismantled... a root cause of America's current division. 

Of course you would. Any opinion different from yours has to be shut down. Sometimes you should reread what you write.

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1 hour ago, Yellow Fever said:

I agree with you.

Sadly this story has been seen in many usually 2nd or 3rd world countries over history. It always ultimately ends badly. Actually Putin's Russia is probably a good example/template for Trumps actions  - and we know Trump 'respects' such 'strong' men. 

I really fear for the USA and by extension the West and our ideals in general if this cancer is allowed to continue.

Why wouldn't you wait until the courts have listened to the lawsuits and ruled upon them? That is true democracy. All I hear from the Biden side is to shoutdown the judicial process, as though they have something to fear about the outcome.

If Biden and his supporters are so overwhelming sure that there is no vote manipulation then they would welcome the judicial process to prove the cleanliness of their victory. But that's not what is happening. What are they afraid of?

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They are Herman. Totally incoherent. 

If they went back to first principles and explained what their fundamental principle they'd more than likely find that we have significant areas of agreement. Globalization and its impact on basic industries and their wokforce for example. But they are just stuck in this confrontation at all costs mode which means they get treated like the nutter on the street - best to walk quietly and quickly by... 

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These Trump supporters today are not representative of the vast majority of Republican voters. But they are representative of a troubling number of Trump / Republican voters. And the network that is now "shocked I tell you" that they exist is the same network that has been encouraging and/or excusing their behavior for years... 

..... Tucker Carlson, Laura Ingram, Sean Hannity ... we are looking at you especially. 

"We just saw a very disturbing sign, it said 'Coming for Blacks and Indians, welcome to the New World Order.'"

https://twitter.com/MattGertz/status/1327716309782695936

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28 minutes ago, Jools said:

Certainly lots of BLM/Antifa democrat supporting activists weighing in on peaceful Trump supporters:

https://thepostmillennial.com/breaking-antifa-assault-children-trump-supporters-in-washington-dc

Humm, in the videos on that site I see pro-Trump supporters taunting, spoiling for a fight and hitting opponents with sticks ... but I am sure there is some minor violence on both sides, tempers are running high. However, so far it's been mostly peaceful.

 

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Meanwhile, a reminder of who is behind a lot of this propaganda masquerading as "free speech" - our friends the Mercers, the funders of Breitbart News / Steve Bannon and Cambridge Analytica. And also backers of Parlour the new social media site that RWNJ's are decamping to as Facebook and Twitter start to block their hate speech - and what do we find there - the place Devin Nunes said is the place conservatives can hold discussions without being asked hard questions - the sitting Senator for Georgia complaining that blacks are being registered to vote. How patriotic of her to defend democracy.

 

Update - this specific post on Parler may be fake. But the point stands - it’s where the RWNJ’s have gone to make a new home to foment conspiracy theories and campaigns. 

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And here's another one - the surviving brother of the Koch twins, doing his "mea culpa" routine again I see now that we have a Democratic president-elect... wonder how long that will last, or whether that means he de-funds some of this "research" groups. 

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And before anyone says "what about George Soros" or "it's their money they can do what they want" the answer to that is :

Yes they can. As long as it's all of this activity is out in the open and funding is publicly disclosed. 

But America (and UK too) has a big problem with "dark money" that a healthy political society would root out. 

Unfortunately the Supreme Court with the "Citizens United" ruling thew the floodgates wide open on this problem.

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33 minutes ago, Surfer said:

Humm, in the videos on that site I see pro-Trump supporters taunting, spoiling for a fight and hitting opponents with sticks 

Nope, for Christ's sake stop lying to yourself and to everyone else..

 

Black Lives Matter militants assault Trump supporters.

https://twitter.com/stillgr...

Bidens "Unity" is surrounding a very elderly couple and threatening them.
https://twitter.com/stillgr...

Black Lives Matter organizers surround a hotel and intimidate Trump supporters before DC Metropolitan Police show up and arrest the militants.
https://twitter.com/stillgr...

This is horrific. Trump supporters are being assaulted by Black Lives Matter activists and Antifa in DC.
https://twitter.com/stillgr...

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5 hours ago, Jools said:

Nope, for Christ's sake stop lying to yourself and to everyone else..

 

Black Lives Matter militants assault Trump supporters.

https://twitter.com/stillgr...

Bidens "Unity" is surrounding a very elderly couple and threatening them.
https://twitter.com/stillgr...

Black Lives Matter organizers surround a hotel and intimidate Trump supporters before DC Metropolitan Police show up and arrest the militants.
https://twitter.com/stillgr...

This is horrific. Trump supporters are being assaulted by Black Lives Matter activists and Antifa in DC.
https://twitter.com/stillgr...

I would say that Ian Miles Cheong is trying rather hard to claim some “robust” interactions between two fired up groups is violence - it clearly is not at that level. 

As much as Trump would probably love to see violence break out so he can declare martial law, it’s just a RWNJ pipe dream.... boys will be boys. Especially when egged on by steroid induced rage and alcohol. 

 

 

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16 minutes ago, Jools said:

Nope, for Christ's sake stop lying to yourself and to everyone else..

 

Black Lives Matter militants assault Trump supporters.

https://twitter.com/stillgr...

Bidens "Unity" is surrounding a very elderly couple and threatening them.
https://twitter.com/stillgr...

Black Lives Matter organizers surround a hotel and intimidate Trump supporters before DC Metropolitan Police show up and arrest the militants.
https://twitter.com/stillgr...

This is horrific. Trump supporters are being assaulted by Black Lives Matter activists and Antifa in DC.
https://twitter.com/stillgr...

Not very long ago Jools was behaving like a sc*mbag supporting the murderer Kyle Rittenhouse. Yet again he displays his shameful hypocracy.

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9 minutes ago, Jools said:

😀

No need for a wrecking-ball, Homeland Security will do just fine. Can't wait to see them march Trump out in handcuffs (sadly he's too much of a wimp to attempt any such thing as he showed today by going off to play golf rather than hang around with his supporters- he loves them that much)

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I really do think thee guys should lose their broadcast license - this is totally irresponsible sh!t. 

Expressing personal beliefs, that's fine, but this is not "news" its deliberate, destructive, propaganda. 

 

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8 hours ago, Rock The Boat said:

Why wouldn't you wait until the courts have listened to the lawsuits and ruled upon them? That is true democracy. All I hear from the Biden side is to shoutdown the judicial process, as though they have something to fear about the outcome.

If Biden and his supporters are so overwhelming sure that there is no vote manipulation then they would welcome the judicial process to prove the cleanliness of their victory. But that's not what is happening. What are they afraid of?

I swear you must be hearing voices in your head telling you this stuff. What you describe is not happening, none of it. 

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Here's some more on Parler and where it came from. It's an interesting lead up to your WSJ story on the Mercers. All of this nonsense, Trump, Brexit, Climate Change, Covid Disinfo etc, all tends to end up in the same areas and the same people.

 

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The courts, as well as the major news organisations that typically project election winners, appear in no mood to indulge Trump. The president’s campaign has suffered a slew of legal losses in Michigan, Arizona and Pennsylvania after arguing that ballots were illegally counted.

“The Trump campaign keeps hoping it will find a judge that treats lawsuits like tweets,” Justin Levitt, a Loyola Law School professor and elections law expert, told CNN. “Repeatedly, every person with a robe they’ve encountered has said, ‘I’m sorry, we do law here.’”

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/nov/14/donald-trump-joe-biden-rally-us-elections

 

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Honestly don't get what these counter protesters are hoping to achieve. Trump lost, no amount of moderately sized street marches by his fans are going to change that. To turn up to 'counter protest' only creates confrontation and violence and lets the Republican party raise the spectre of 'antifa left wing violence' ahead of the all important senate run offs.

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55 minutes ago, king canary said:

Honestly don't get what these counter protesters are hoping to achieve. Trump lost, no amount of moderately sized street marches by his fans are going to change that. To turn up to 'counter protest' only creates confrontation and violence and lets the Republican party raise the spectre of 'antifa left wing violence' ahead of the all important senate run offs.

@king canary, I don't think Trump supporters know what they are doing either, they just sincerely don't believe that Trump could or did lose. That is despite an election that the department of Homeland security descibes as the fairest and safest ever, Trump losing by the largest margin of any sitting President since the 1930s, Biden getting a record number of votes, Biden beating Trump by 5 million votes, elements of Trumps legal team resigning and Trumps legal challenges being repeatedly thrown out of court for lack of merit.

Fox and the right-wing media have fed a sense of grievance for years. They, and a couple of posters on here, continue to diseminate a host of flakey internet inventions without any evidence at all. Then they have the intellectual failure of ignoring the above facts and saying it is for Democrats to prove it was fair.

They lost, they cannot understand that what they thought was their majority was in fact a minority and they don't like it.

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12 hours ago, Rock The Boat said:

Why wouldn't you wait until the courts have listened to the lawsuits and ruled upon them? That is true democracy. All I hear from the Biden side is to shoutdown the judicial process, as though they have something to fear about the outcome.

If Biden and his supporters are so overwhelming sure that there is no vote manipulation then they would welcome the judicial process to prove the cleanliness of their victory. But that's not what is happening. What are they afraid of?

 

4 hours ago, Surfer said:

I swear you must be hearing voices in your head telling you this stuff. What you describe is not happening, none of it. 

RTB. Trumps vexatious (and I use the word in the legal sense) suits have all gone nowhere - thrown out simply to lack of substantive evidence. Being kind I am sure however we can all agree there will be a handful of irregular votes cast for both Biden and Trump but these numbers will in no way affect the result. Trump lost.  The whole world knows it and all international leaders are acknowledging Biden as the president elect.

The fact that you and Trump's base can not accept the result of an officially acknowledged fair and square a democratic poll (Homeland Security report) and concede (like Hillary did in 2016) tells me rather more about you and your lack of democratic credentials than anything else.

Frankly Trump with his continued intransigence, incitement of his base and the undermining of the poll result despite all the evidence to the contrary is flirting with sedition.

 

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What you're seeing is a lot of cognitive dissonance. Fact is, Trump's law suits are getting tossed off due to lack of evidence quicker than a virgin with his ding-a-ling in Holly Willoughby's hand and that he suffered an electoral defeat by a president in his first term worse than anything seen since World War Two. You're also seeing the nadir of a prolonged attempt to cast doubt on an electoral process (even though Trump himself uses mail-in voting) to energise their base.

I don't blame the voter base for voting the way they do if disillusioned as it's one of the few ways they have of causing what they believe is lawful change. I blame the parties in power for having a model that enables it to be gamed that way without rectifying it, but as I've said before re. the US and indeed the UK model, such gaming suits both monolithic parties.

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12 hours ago, Jools said:

Nope, for Christ's sake stop lying to yourself and to everyone else..

 

Black Lives Matter militants assault Trump supporters.

https://twitter.com/stillgr...

Bidens "Unity" is surrounding a very elderly couple and threatening them.
https://twitter.com/stillgr...

Black Lives Matter organizers surround a hotel and intimidate Trump supporters before DC Metropolitan Police show up and arrest the militants.
https://twitter.com/stillgr...

This is horrific. Trump supporters are being assaulted by Black Lives Matter activists and Antifa in DC.
https://twitter.com/stillgr...

I do not and never will condone behaviour that is threatening to the innocent. And I will give all those you identify the benefit of the doubt. Yes, totally out of order.

But don't you think this civil disobedience has been fired up Trump and his lies about the election?

Inflammatory. Just like you describing the very brief and inconclusive clip of someone throwing water as "horrific".

Its over. You lost. Suck it up, put on your big boy pants and try and find it in your soul to admit, the world is turning against your right wing hatred and rhetoric.

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