The Never-President Trump

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1 hour ago, The Real Buh said:

American politics is truly, hilariously corrupt.

It's true the Trump presidency has revealed the Republican Party and supporters are thoroughly corrupt, but it's not at all hilarious.

 

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34 minutes ago, Surfer said:

It's true the Trump presidency has revealed the Republican Party and supporters are thoroughly corrupt, but it's not at all hilarious.

 

The democrats aren’t exactly amazing though. Look at what they did to Bernie with Hillary getting the nomination. You have to ask yourself what’s going on there. I just look at all their politicians and they just look... off. We have some weirdos in the UK but look at Nancy Pelosi, she looks like a burns victim. I mean, you have to take a step back sometimes and say “they elected Donald Trump as president” it does begged belief but the alternative was Hillary Clinton, not exactly a great alternative. Why can’t the democrats just put someone forward that people like and are likely to vote for like they did with Obama? Biden has so much baggage and in a live debate he’ll get creamed by Trump, he can’t remember what he had for breakfast.

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58 minutes ago, The Real Buh said:

Look at what they did to Bernie with Hillary getting the nomination.

They chose the person who had the most votes?

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2 minutes ago, king canary said:

They chose the person who had the most votes?

Read the emails 

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Trump v Biden

350 000 000 people and that's what you end up with!

Something is definitely not right with American politics.

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Having said that ours isn't great but Keir is marked improvement on Corbyn, shame his front bench is absolutely clueless though.

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8 minutes ago, The Real Buh said:

Read the emails 

The emails were a bit of a non-story. The DNC didn't really like Sanders (understandable) but there is nothing to suggest they did much other than **** about him in private emails. I don't think that would overturn the fact she got 4m more votes than him.

Sanders problem has always been that he has a passionate base but no real ability to expand beyond that. 

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5 minutes ago, king canary said:

The emails were a bit of a non-story. The DNC didn't really like Sanders (understandable) but there is nothing to suggest they did much other than **** about him in private emails. I don't think that would overturn the fact she got 4m more votes than him.

Sanders problem has always been that he has a passionate base but no real ability to expand beyond that. 

It’s widely accepted that it was rigged. And Hillary is just filthy, so much corruption surrounds her and her husband. Hoe about the democrats use someone who isn’t totally compromised?

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3 minutes ago, The Real Buh said:

It’s widely accepted that it was rigged.

It absolutely isn't.

3 minutes ago, The Real Buh said:

And Hillary is just filthy, so much corruption surrounds her and her husband. Hoe about the democrats use someone who isn’t totally compromised?

Yeah agree with this- she was a historically unpopular candidate with some questionable background. Yet despite that she still got 3m more votes than Trump. 

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1 minute ago, king canary said:

It absolutely isn't.

Yeah agree with this- she was a historically unpopular candidate with some questionable background. Yet despite that she still got 3m more votes than Trump. 

But it was rigged

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/jun/11/democrat-primary-elections-need-reform

There are many more acceptable candidates, so why do they keep throwing these compromised candidates in

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3 minutes ago, The Real Buh said:

But it was rigged

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/jun/11/democrat-primary-elections-need-reform

There are many more acceptable candidates, so why do they keep throwing these compromised candidates in

That is written by a member of the Sanders campaign. Of course they want to claim it was rigged.

I personally don't think Biden is anywhere near as compromised as Clinton was and Clinton would likely have won if Comey hadn't decided to make a big deal out of nothing with her emails in the final run up to the election.

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4 minutes ago, king canary said:

That is written by a member of the Sanders campaign. Of course they want to claim it was rigged.

I personally don't think Biden is anywhere near as compromised as Clinton was and Clinton would likely have won if Comey hadn't decided to make a big deal out of nothing with her emails in the final run up to the election.

https://www.businessinsider.com/elizabeth-warren-dnc-rigged-2016-primary-clinton-sanders-2017-11

here’s Elizabeth Warren saying the DNC rigged the election of Clinton

 

• CNN's Jake Tapper asked Democratic Sen. Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts if she thinks the 2016 Democratic primary was rigged. She said "yes."

Edited May 7, 2020 by The Real Buh

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9 minutes ago, The Real Buh said:

https://www.businessinsider.com/elizabeth-warren-dnc-rigged-2016-primary-clinton-sanders-2017-11

here’s Elizabeth Warren saying the DNC rigged the election of Clinton

 

• CNN's Jake Tapper asked Democratic Sen. Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts if she thinks the 2016 Democratic primary was rigged. She said "yes."

 

Those are thoughts for later. Right now the question is whether the Clinton campaign's dominance over the DNC (which was alleged at the time, too) helped her win and whether, without it, Sanders would have been the one on the ballot against Trump in November.

The numbers would suggest the answer is still no. Plus, as Brazile notes in her article, Sanders' entire strategy was to run from the outside, drawing the party to him and not benefiting from the its largesse.

While Clinton did not clinch the nomination until the second-to-last day of the primaries, she had a strong lead in delegates for the majority of the process. One reason it took her so long to lock it down was that California's race, with its treasure trove of delegates, was not until June. Still smarting over its limited influence, California is looking to play in the primaries much earlier in 2020.)

 

Clinton won three of the first four contests. She won the entire South. The whole thing. She won most of the Northeast. (Sanders' performed best in the upper Midwest and in states with caucuses, which are a better measure of the intensity of a candidate's support than its breadth.) And she won the Democratic coalition of minorities and women -- the people Democrats thought then and still believe they need to show up to win in November.

 

https://edition.cnn.com/2017/11/04/politics/bernie-sanders-2016-election-donna-brazile/index.html

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Clinton lost because she ran a tone deaf campaign and Trump for all his faults is a very good salesman. She ignored the Mid West and he didn’t and so he pulled off a narrow win while losing the popular vote. 

If Sanders had run in 2016 it would have been a landslide in favor of Trump, same this year as he’s another Jeremy Corbin. He’s not even registered as a Democrat either and seems to spend all his time campaigning to build his very vocal base (who often fail to vote) 

For the Democrats this is a bridge election, it has very good politicians in their 50’s who need to take over from those in their 70’s - Harris for example - and one thing everyone forgets is who votes in Democrat primaries -you do not get the win without black women, and despite this always being true, Bernie never built up that support, Joe Biden did. 
 

Edited May 7, 2020 by Surfer

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4 hours ago, Surfer said:

Clinton lost because she ran a tone deaf campaign and Trump for all his faults is a very good salesman. She ignored the Mid West and he didn’t and so he pulled off a narrow win while losing the popular vote. 

If Sanders had run in 2016 it would have been a landslide in favor of Trump, same this year as he’s another Jeremy Corbin. He’s not even registered as a Democrat either and seems to spend all his time campaigning to build his very vocal base (who often fail to vote) 

For the Democrats this is a bridge election, it has very good politicians in their 50’s who need to take over from those in their 70’s - Harris for example - and one thing everyone forgets is who votes in Democrat primaries -you do not get the win without black women, and despite this always being true, Bernie never built up that support, Joe Biden did. 
 

Whilst its difficult to disagree with anything you've said there, it's still also very difficult to get excited about Biden.

IMO the Democrats should have skipped the 'bridge' election and gone for one of the younger, and better, candidates probably with Saunders as a running mate - risky perhaps but they have a great deal more talent available than the GOP but they don't seem to want to use it.

 

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The US Department of Justice is moving to drop the criminal charges against former national security adviser Michael Flynn.

Flynn was among the former aides to President Donald Trump convicted during the special counsel's investigation into Russian election interference.

He had pleaded guilty in 2017 to lying to the FBI about contacts with Russia's ambassador to the US.

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There is much more to come out about about this story - remember I mentioned a few days ago that it was about to get very scary and dirty - this is just the start. Russia collusion is going back on the front burner. 

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[Herman 9,717]

What is it about their level of corruption that makes you want to support them? 

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The only conclusion to draw from that tweet is OMG! James Woods is bat sh!t mental.

 

[Herman 9,717]

I didn't ask nor care about the Clintons. 

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Have a look at Fouci's tweets as well. Is this the non political Doctor telling the world about the US effort during the crisis.

And James Woods was a Democrat who fell out of love with the Clintons. He then became an independent during the Bush Regimes and has now converted to republican.

Woods' Twitter account was suspended in mid-April 2019 after a tweet that was considered to threaten violence. He was defended in a tweet posted by President Donald Trump.^[70] In February 2020, after an absence of nearly 10 months, Woods returned to Twitter.^[71]

In February 2020, Woods spread a viral Twitter meme falsely asserting that under Bernie Sanders' proposed taxation plan anyone making over $29,000 per year would be taxed at a rate of 52%.^[72]

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Why is it that all the losers attach themselves to wannabe or actual dictators? It gives them a sense of power, even if that power is expressed as imposing cruelty on others in the name of some glorious vision of unity of the fatherland or motherland. 

Fox News understands and feeds that... some of the UK news papers do too. 

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3 hours ago, Rock The Boat said:

The corruption of the Clintons knows no bounds. They have been murdering their enemies since Bill became.president. They have become fabulously wealthy way beyond declared income. Hiliary ran operations outside the scope of the State. They colluded with the Russians. They tried to gerrymander elections. They should be behind bars for the rest of their lives as they are the biggest criminals in the US. 

You haven’t answered the question though, you’ve just tried your usual ranty distraction tactics. What is it about Trump that gets you so aroused and why do you ignore his awful character traits, yet focus on these on the people you don’t like?

3 minutes ago, Surfer said:

Why is it that all the losers attach themselves to wannabe or actual dictators? It gives them a sense of power, even if that power is expressed as imposing cruelty on others in the name of some glorious vision of unity of the fatherland or motherland. 

Fox News understands and feeds that... some of the UK news papers do too. 

Is that Rock the Bot you’re talking about? 😆

Edited May 8, 2020 by Hoola Han Solo

[Herman 9,717]

A big box of nuthin' being delivered by a big box of nuthin'.😀

 

[Surfer 1,547]

Uh oh - watch out, this bug may bite ..... maybe these events may break through the wall of denial? 

No word on if either one of them will self-quarantine for 14 days - as per the President's (CDC) guidelines. 

[Herman 9,717]

Oh dear, how sad, nevermind.

 

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What is the problem? We're on top of this thing and if wasn't for Obama bringing it from Kenya or wherever he was born, we wouldn't be in this mess. I've seen the evidence.

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It only takes Trump & Pence to be incapacitated and Nancy Pelosi would be in charge.

 

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55 minutes ago, keelansgrandad said:

What is the problem? We're on top of this thing and if wasn't for Obama bringing it from Kenya or wherever he was born, we wouldn't be in this mess. I've seen the evidence.

🤣 Totally true. It's well known - Tucker Carlson reported on it -  ISIS agents (funded by the Chinese) brought Ebola over the Mexico border. As a result it's morphed from the Tsingtou to the Corona Virus. Patriots are now re-boycotting Corona for Miller Lite.